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| kriox | hi | 04:55 |
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| kriox | I have a question... If I rearrange a piece of music (by Bach, so public domain) and put the sheet music under a ND license, does it prevent people from recording it? | 04:57 |
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| mecredis | nkinkade: there? | 16:21 |
| mecredis | er, nathany there? | 16:21 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Yeah. | 16:21 |
| mecredis | meant for the other nathan | 16:21 |
| mecredis | heh | 16:21 |
| nkinkade | What's up? | 16:21 |
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| nathany | mecredis: what's up? | 16:21 |
| mecredis | need to move the Facebook API key | 16:21 |
| mecredis | out of the git repository | 16:21 |
| mecredis | to my ~ on a7 | 16:21 |
| mecredis | before I post a link to the source | 16:21 |
| nathany | it was checked into git? | 16:22 |
| mecredis | yeah | 16:23 |
| nathany | mecredis: ok... i'm in the middle of getting tech summit registration up and going; we'll need to purge it from the history as well | 16:23 |
| nathany | send me an email? | 16:24 |
| mecredis | sure. | 16:24 |
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| mecredis | nathany: can you guys call me? | 16:59 |
| nathany | sure | 16:59 |
| nathany | priv msg me the #? | 16:59 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Do you have a moment to help me with a mod_python or mod_wsgi thing with co-ment? | 18:19 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: sure | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | co-ment is a Django app, but I don't have any experience with getting that running. | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | I figured I could go reading, or perhaps you'd know what to do up front and then I could just learn from what you do. | 18:21 |
| nathany | nkinkade: so you can usually do Django app deployments with either mod_python/mod_wsgi or fcgi | 18:22 |
| nathany | we're using mod_wsgi on a9 for commoner | 18:22 |
| nathany | Do the co-ment docs have any suggestions/instructions? | 18:22 |
| nathany | nkinkade: http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/deployment/#howto-deployment-index is probably a good starting point for docs; there are links there to both mod_wsgi and fcgi | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | nathany: This is the problem, there are virtually no docs at all. | 18:23 |
| nathany | heh | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | (for co-ment, that is) | 18:23 |
| nathany | right | 18:23 |
| nathany | nkinkade: one second, let me look @ that code | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | It tell you how to get it running in dev setup, but for production they just point you to the mod_python / Django docs. | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | It's at /var/www/translate.creativecommons.org/co-ment | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | And you can see my initial abortive attempts to get it running without reading much in the vhost file for translate. | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | I can take a look at your setup for ccNet. | 18:25 |
| nathany | nkinkade: so you'll probably need to write a little wrapper script that sets things up correctly | 18:26 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: the simplest fcgi version is here: | 18:26 |
| nathany | http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/deployment/fastcgi/#running-django-on-a-shared-hosting-provider-with-apache | 18:26 |
| nkinkade | Ah | 18:26 |
| nathany | (docs are there, that is) | 18:26 |
| nathany | the relevant portion is the DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE environment variable | 18:27 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That might be enough to get me in the right direction. | 18:27 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yeah, look @ the chinese fcgi configuration for scraper and write an fcgi wrapper for co-ment, i think | 18:27 |
| nathany | (that way it'll handle process mgmt | 18:27 |
| nathany | etc) | 18:27 |
| nkinkade | co-ment has a settings.py file, but other than that I don't know what configg it needs. | 18:27 |
| nathany | right, so the co-ment download is actually a python package | 18:28 |
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| nathany | so you'll have /var/www/translate/coment/co-ment | 18:28 |
| nathany | in /var/www/translate/coment/ you'll put the fcgi wrapper with the DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE set to "co-ment.settings" | 18:28 |
| nathany | (although I'm not sure "-" is allowed in a python package name so you may need to make it /var/www/translate/coment/coment) | 18:29 |
| nkinkade | And is that a file I create myself? | 18:29 |
| nathany | yeah, i think so | 18:29 |
| nathany | looks like they're doing the least amount possible | 18:29 |
| nathany | do you have other things in your queue? | 18:29 |
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| nkinkade | I got the feeling they would rather people just use their site. :-) | 18:29 |
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| nathany | i can do this without much sweat, but need to focus on getting tech summit registration up and going | 18:29 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I've got this co-ment thing, and the store. | 18:29 |
| nkinkade | Those are the big ones. | 18:30 |
| nathany | yeah, so it's up to you but feel free to re assign co-ment to me | 18:30 |
| nathany | i can get the basics done and then you can look @ it and ask questions | 18:30 |
| nathany | totally up to you | 18:30 |
| nkinkade | I'll read a little about it now and give it a go, since I think it would be good if I had a clear idea about how this worked, especially since cc.net uses something similar. | 18:32 |
| nkinkade | I won't spend too too much time if it doesn't come to me immediately. | 18:32 |
| nkinkade | I've also got the "Edit with form" bug, which might be more high priority. | 18:33 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yeah, probably | 18:34 |
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| mecredis | nkinkade: now I'm actually looking for toy | 18:55 |
| mecredis | *you | 18:55 |
| nkinkade | I'm here. | 18:55 |
| mecredis | would you mind setting up outreach@creativecommons.org | 18:56 |
| mecredis | hrm, one sec | 18:56 |
| mecredis | just figuring out if this is a good idea | 18:56 |
| mecredis | let me check with eric & cameron | 18:57 |
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| nkinkade | Cool. Just let me know ... | 18:57 |
| mecredis | yeah, sorry for the false alarm | 18:57 |
| mecredis | will let you know shortly | 18:57 |
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| johndoigiii | thanks nathany, I found my answer in the git_phrasebook | 20:25 |
| nathany | johndoigiii: awesome | 20:25 |
| nathany | i guess i should re-read that, too | 20:25 |
| johndoigiii | yeah, I though "git push origin :branchname" was synom with "git branch -r -D origin/branchname" | 20:26 |
| nathany | oh, so did i | 20:27 |
| johndoigiii | both are required | 20:27 |
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| mecredis | nathany: what do I do if RDFa validates but deeds don't scrape & create attributin box? | 20:45 |
| mecredis | nathany: nevermind! | 20:45 |
| mecredis | it works | 20:45 |
| mecredis | sometimes its just slow | 20:45 |
| nathany | mecredis: awesome :) | 20:45 |
| mecredis | hahah | 20:46 |
| mecredis | weird | 20:46 |
| mecredis | there must be a timeout for the referall scrape? | 20:46 |
| nathany | mecredis: you mean that the referrer has to respond in a certain amount of time? | 20:46 |
| mecredis | yeah | 20:46 |
| * ianweller has sometimes had this problem too | 20:46 | |
| nathany | it's possible that the referrer wasn't replying fast enough for the server to parser the results and pass them back | 20:46 |
| mecredis | nathany: right | 20:47 |
| nathany | if you or ianweller has examples that don't work on a cold cache, please send them to me so i can work on tuning that | 20:47 |
| nathany | nathan at creative commons dot org | 20:47 |
| nathany | ianweller: ^^ (FWIW) | 20:47 |
| mecredis | nathany: I pm'd you a link | 20:47 |
| * ianweller needs to remember which one of his has problems | 20:47 | |
| nathany | mecredis: great | 20:48 |
| ianweller | oh no | 20:48 |
| ianweller | my problem was that it was showing up the attribution but the CC Network registration thing wasn't showing up. | 20:48 |
| mecredis | hrm | 20:48 |
| mecredis | I think I was just being impatient | 20:48 |
| ianweller | nathany: you still want links that don't show the CC Network registration stuff | 20:49 |
| nathany | ianweller: sure | 20:49 |
| ianweller | now i'm not sure if this is a weird exception | 20:50 |
| ianweller | but, https://creativecommons.net/r/671/ | 20:50 |
| ianweller | and the attribution name and url are different than what i have down in the CC network registration stuff | 20:50 |
| nathany | ianweller: i don't see the cc network badge/metadata on that page | 20:50 |
| ianweller | nathany: oh it has specific metadata? | 20:50 |
| * ianweller looks at his other website's code | 20:51 | |
| ianweller | must've been a while ago | 20:51 |
| nathany | ianweller: yup | 20:51 |
| ianweller | oic! | 20:51 |
| nathany | it includes the attribution information | 20:51 |
| ianweller | sioc:has_owner | 20:51 |
| nathany | yup | 20:51 |
| ianweller | welllll | 20:51 |
| nathany | that tells the deeds to look for registration information | 20:51 |
| nathany | :) | 20:51 |
| ianweller | ok | 20:51 |
| ianweller | learned something new | 20:51 |
| ianweller | :D | 20:51 |
| nathany | ianweller: so was it unclear that you needed to add the HTML to the page to finish the registration process (or garner the benefit) | 20:52 |
| nathany | ? | 20:52 |
| nathany | that'd be good feedback as we try to refine CC Network's features | 20:52 |
| ianweller | nathany: i was unclear that the code was required to get the CC Network registration notice | 20:52 |
| ianweller | i just slapped it on ianweller.org cuz i wanted to show off | 20:52 |
| nathany | ianweller: ah | 20:53 |
| ianweller | i for some reason assumed that it went and looked it up on CC network automatically | 20:53 |
| nathany | ianweller: we tried to build it super decentralized so that other registries could play, too | 20:53 |
| ianweller | hmm | 20:53 |
| ianweller | haha it works. | 20:54 |
| nathany | :) | 20:54 |
| nathany | awesome | 20:54 |
| ianweller | rdf boggles my mind | 20:54 |
| johndoigiii | ping nkinkade | 20:54 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: Hi. | 20:54 |
| johndoigiii | hey, quick q on a9 | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | Shoot. | 20:55 |
| johndoigiii | all of the virtualhosts force https right? | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | Nope, just support. | 20:55 |
| johndoigiii | ohh okay, well cc.net looked like it was as well | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: Oh, you're right. CC.net does too. | 20:56 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: I've discovered something interesting about this "Edit with form" bug. | 22:20 |
| nkinkade | In the categorylinks tables there is a row that looks like this: | 22:20 |
| nkinkade | mysql> select * from categorylinks where cl_from='0'; | 22:21 |
| nkinkade | +---------+-----------+-----------------------+---------------------+ | 22:21 |
| nkinkade | | cl_from | cl_to | cl_sortkey | cl_timestamp | | 22:21 |
| nkinkade | +---------+-----------+-----------------------+---------------------+ | 22:21 |
| nkinkade | | 0 | Casestudy | Images/cc-title-8.png | 2008-04-23 23:18:20 | | 22:21 |
| nkinkade | +---------+-----------+-----------------------+---------------------+ | 22:21 |
| nkinkade | I take that to mean that somehow the default (Main) namespace has a category of Casestudy. | 22:21 |
| nathany | nkinkade: that's super weird | 22:22 |
| nathany | i wish i knew who's name to take in vain | 22:22 |
| nkinkade | Do you happen to know how to edit properties for the main namespace? | 22:22 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i thought you could go to http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC_Wiki:Main | 22:22 |
| nkinkade | I tried that, but got an empty page. | 22:22 |
| nathany | yeah | 22:23 |
| nathany | i looked there, too | 22:23 |
| nathany | (when i was looking @ this) | 22:23 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: so page 0 is the mw namespace? | 22:23 |
| nathany | main namespace, that is? | 22:23 |
| nkinkade | I believe so ... | 22:23 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i'm going to look @ the history for that page in the database | 22:24 |
| nkinkade | So this would seem probably not be a SF thing, because it's functions just ask MW which categories are related to that particular namespace. | 22:24 |
| nkinkade | And it feeds in 0, and MW says Casestudies. | 22:25 |
| nkinkade | Which page are you going to look at the history for? | 22:25 |
| nkinkade | Since CC_Wiki:Main was empty I wasn't sure where to check. | 22:25 |
| nathany | i was looking for the page name of page_id 0 | 22:25 |
| nkinkade | Oh. | 22:25 |
| nkinkade | There seem to be no pages with that id. | 22:26 |
| nathany | yeah, i just did select page_id, page_namespace, page_title from page where page_id=0; and got an empty set | 22:26 |
| nathany | that's super weird | 22:26 |
| nathany | it's also been that way since over a year ago? | 22:26 |
| nathany | nkinkade: also, that's a super weird sort key | 22:26 |
| nathany | ugh | 22:26 |
| nathany | right | 22:26 |
| nathany | nkinkade: but looking @ http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Categorylinks_table it appears that this is a category assignment | 22:27 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i'd like to suggest removing that row and see if the problem goes away | 22:30 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'll give that a shot, and make a note of the previous values in the issue so we can re-add it if it all goes to hell. | 22:38 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sounds like a plan | 22:38 |
| nkinkade | But I feel fairly certain that it will at least fix this problem. | 22:38 |
| nathany | i suspect it will -- that's just too weird | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | Because it's the only category that comes back when SF goes to figure out whether it needs to display that tab. | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | It doesn't do much for knowing how it got there, but it's at least fix. | 22:39 |
| nathany | right | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | Yup, that fixed it. | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | I poked around in a few of the other wikis and there was no such entry, or any entry with a cl_from of 0. | 22:46 |
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| nathany | mecredis: it appears the FB keys are in both index and cc_logic, right? | 22:50 |
| nathany | and results.php | 22:50 |
| nathany | jhfc | 22:50 |
| mecredis | nathany: good observation | 22:50 |
| nathany | ? | 22:50 |
| mecredis | all of those could be replaced | 22:51 |
| mecredis | just me being sloppy | 22:51 |
| mecredis | and forgetting | 22:51 |
| nathany | got it | 22:51 |
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| mecredis | thanks. | 22:51 |
| nathany | mecredis: | 23:02 |
| nathany | uh, did i break it? | 23:02 |
| mecredis | looks ok to me | 23:02 |
| mecredis | ... checks | 23:02 |
| nathany | i tried to go and test it and it seems to work, but when i go to select a license, it just gives me an option that says "or go back and choose another license" | 23:02 |
| mecredis | hrm | 23:02 |
| nathany | maybe i need to remove + re-add? | 23:02 |
| mecredis | if you've already installed it | 23:03 |
| mecredis | then you're just changing it | 23:03 |
| mecredis | so you can re-install, etc. | 23:03 |
| nathany | right | 23:03 |
| mecredis | let me know if you want me to test it | 23:03 |
| nathany | uh, ok... but if i just go to the app with it already installed, it seems screwy | 23:03 |
| nathany | mecredis: ^^ | 23:03 |
| mecredis | http://apps.facebook.com/creativecommons/ looks good to me | 23:04 |
| nathany | mecredis: ah, i see what the problem is | 23:04 |
| nathany | if you visit that URL with the app already installed and select a license, teh "add to profile" button is missing | 23:04 |
| nathany | so it looks like the only option is to choose a different license | 23:05 |
| mecredis | sorry, on a call with lawyers, system resources are low | 23:05 |
| nathany | mp | 23:05 |
| nathany | np | 23:05 |
| mecredis | right | 23:05 |
| nathany | it's working | 23:05 |
| mecredis | :) | 23:05 |
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| mecredis | thanks | 23:05 |
| mecredis | I need to write some conditional | 23:05 |
| mecredis | to figure out that you've chosen it | 23:05 |
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