Sunday, 2009-03-08

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paulproteusgreg-g, lol re: "sharing" being a tag of your #cc post01:22
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greg-gpaulproteus: :)02:58
greg-gI'm glad you got it02:58
paulproteusgreg-g, Psst, PM03:00
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barra_libraryhola :-)09:48
barra_libraryquick question concerning the CC licenses09:48
barra_libraryif somebody released assets under CC 2.0 BY-SA, could I redistribute them under dual licensing, CC 2.0 & 3.0 BY-SA?09:49
CharelBHi , is here anyone of the Merchandising of CC?10:01
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athakiI'm looking for Castrated Cows10:34
athakiSorry, just read greg-g's Planet Ubuntu post10:34
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barra_libraryquick question concerning the CC licenses18:15
barra_libraryif somebody released assets under CC 2.0 BY-SA, could I redistribute them under dual licensing, CC 2.0 & 3.0 BY-SA?18:15
robmyers(I am not CC, I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice) the copyright holder could18:19
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barra_libraryyep robmyers :-)18:22
barra_librarymight be rather complicated if a lot of sources are used18:22
robmyersooh hang on18:24
robmyersyou mean BY-SA 2.0 and BY-SA 3.018:24
* greg-g is assuming so18:27
robmyerswell if you release it under 2.0 then derivatives can be licenced under 3.0, and if you release it under 3.0 then any other 2.0 work can be combined with it under 3.0 . so dual licencing shouldn't be necessary?18:28
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cabezahow's you?18:37
cabezai'm just looking for a stright answer, could you help me?18:37
cabezaI made a logo for a bussiness project18:38
cabezaand i'd like to use C18:38
cabezaCC yeah18:38
robmyerserr I'm not CC and I'm not a lawyer. but anyway. The logo will probably be a trademark, and CC licenses cover copyright rather than trademarks. Is this your business project or is it wok for a client?18:40
cabezado i need to upload the image?18:40
cabezait is for my bussiness18:40
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cabezaso, i need to register it, not only use CC18:41
robmyersOK this is probably beyond my experience, sorry. You can CC the files for the image, and if you want people to use the trademark then you could look at Debian's trademark licence.18:42
robmyersI'd recommend asking here tomorrow when the CC staffers will be online18:42
greg-gcabeza: you can register the trademark and license an image that incorporates that trademark under a CC license18:43
greg-gas robmyers said, CC licenses don't apply to the trademark directly18:43
cabezaok, so i need to do both18:43
barra_librarydidn't know that robmyers18:43
barra_librarythanks for the pointer18:43
robmyersfor a trademark licence, see the links here , but they seem to be draft versions so be careful18:45
greg-gcabeza: right.  Although, for trademarks I would be hesitant licensing them under a CC license becaues then you have fewer protections of how your logo is used.  License your website's text under a CC license, of course.18:45
robmyerstrademarks exist to protect consumers18:47
robmyersit's only their mis-use that's a problem really (in my personal opinion)18:47
cabezai'll need more reading, first time doing this18:47
greg-grobmyers: well right, and the people that are in charge of ensuring that the trademarks are not misused (and thus harm consumers) are the trademark holders18:48
cabeza200 AR$ for the trademark registration!18:48
robmyersgreg-g yeah that is the problem. my area is visual art, and trademark holders can be a bit unreasonable there18:49
* greg-g nods18:49
robmyerscabeza if you don't want to pay you don't have to register, just have a common law trademark. TM rather than (R). but ask a lawyer (or Google) about the advantages of registering.18:50
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aL3aqrabi neED smtp Pm aLL spammer22:54
greg-ggoOD luCk With thaT22:57
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zigzighi guys, I have a little question about CC licenses: may I use a picture under CC By-SA 2.5 and include it in a document which, itself, will be licensed under CC by-sa 3.0 ?23:40
zigzigI mean, does it work like "GNU GPL V2 or, (at your option) any later license published by the Free Software Foundation" so that one can pick up code under GNU GPL 2 and relicense it either under GNU GPL 2 or 3?23:41
ianwelleri'm vaguely sure it works lke that23:46
greg-gzigzig: Yes.  See paragraph b under Restrictions:23:47
greg-gYou may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform a Derivative Work only under the terms of this License, a later version of this License with the same License Elements as this License, or a Creative Commons iCommons license that contains the same License Elements as this License (e.g. Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 Japan).23:47
zigziggreat! thank you ianweller and greg-g :)23:48
mattlsome kind of clarification/table of this would be good from CC23:48
greg-gmattl: all the info is available for all, we even have a publicly available wiki :)23:48
greg-galso, check:
greg-gonly partially what you want23:50
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greg-ghere is a quick scan of the by-sa license by me right now: versions that you can use a work of and relicense under a newer by-sa version are: 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0.  But you can't with 1.0. 1.0 has to stay 1.0.23:55
greg-gmattl: ^23:55

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