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| paulproteus | greg-g, lol re: "sharing" being a tag of your #cc post | 01:22 |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: :) | 02:58 |
| greg-g | I'm glad you got it | 02:58 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, Psst, PM | 03:00 |
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| barra_library | hola :-) | 09:48 |
| barra_library | quick question concerning the CC licenses | 09:48 |
| barra_library | if somebody released assets under CC 2.0 BY-SA, could I redistribute them under dual licensing, CC 2.0 & 3.0 BY-SA? | 09:49 |
| CharelB | Hi , is here anyone of the Merchandising of CC? | 10:01 |
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| athaki | I'm looking for Castrated Cows | 10:34 |
| athaki | ;) | 10:34 |
| athaki | Sorry, just read greg-g's Planet Ubuntu post | 10:34 |
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| barra_library | quick question concerning the CC licenses | 18:15 |
| barra_library | if somebody released assets under CC 2.0 BY-SA, could I redistribute them under dual licensing, CC 2.0 & 3.0 BY-SA? | 18:15 |
| robmyers | (I am not CC, I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice) the copyright holder could | 18:19 |
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| barra_library | yep robmyers :-) | 18:22 |
| barra_library | might be rather complicated if a lot of sources are used | 18:22 |
| robmyers | yes | 18:24 |
| robmyers | ooh hang on | 18:24 |
| robmyers | you mean BY-SA 2.0 and BY-SA 3.0 | 18:24 |
| robmyers | ? | 18:24 |
| * greg-g is assuming so | 18:27 | |
| robmyers | well if you release it under 2.0 then derivatives can be licenced under 3.0, and if you release it under 3.0 then any other 2.0 work can be combined with it under 3.0 . so dual licencing shouldn't be necessary? | 18:28 |
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| cabeza | hello | 18:36 |
| robmyers | heya | 18:37 |
| cabeza | how's you? | 18:37 |
| cabeza | :) | 18:37 |
| cabeza | i'm just looking for a stright answer, could you help me? | 18:37 |
| cabeza | I made a logo for a bussiness project | 18:38 |
| cabeza | and i'd like to use C | 18:38 |
| robmyers | CC? | 18:38 |
| cabeza | CC yeah | 18:38 |
| cabeza | sorry | 18:38 |
| robmyers | sure | 18:39 |
| robmyers | err I'm not CC and I'm not a lawyer. but anyway. The logo will probably be a trademark, and CC licenses cover copyright rather than trademarks. Is this your business project or is it wok for a client? | 18:40 |
| cabeza | do i need to upload the image? | 18:40 |
| cabeza | it is for my bussiness | 18:40 |
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| cabeza | so, i need to register it, not only use CC | 18:41 |
| robmyers | OK this is probably beyond my experience, sorry. You can CC the files for the image, and if you want people to use the trademark then you could look at Debian's trademark licence. | 18:42 |
| robmyers | I'd recommend asking here tomorrow when the CC staffers will be online | 18:42 |
| greg-g | cabeza: you can register the trademark and license an image that incorporates that trademark under a CC license | 18:43 |
| greg-g | as robmyers said, CC licenses don't apply to the trademark directly | 18:43 |
| cabeza | ok, so i need to do both | 18:43 |
| barra_library | didn't know that robmyers | 18:43 |
| barra_library | thanks for the pointer | 18:43 |
| cabeza | thnx! | 18:44 |
| robmyers | for a trademark licence, see the links here http://www.debian.org/trademark.en.html , but they seem to be draft versions so be careful | 18:45 |
| greg-g | cabeza: right. Although, for trademarks I would be hesitant licensing them under a CC license becaues then you have fewer protections of how your logo is used. License your website's text under a CC license, of course. | 18:45 |
| robmyers | trademarks exist to protect consumers | 18:47 |
| robmyers | it's only their mis-use that's a problem really (in my personal opinion) | 18:47 |
| cabeza | i'll need more reading, first time doing this | 18:47 |
| greg-g | robmyers: well right, and the people that are in charge of ensuring that the trademarks are not misused (and thus harm consumers) are the trademark holders | 18:48 |
| cabeza | 200 AR$ for the trademark registration! | 18:48 |
| cabeza | :( | 18:48 |
| robmyers | greg-g yeah that is the problem. my area is visual art, and trademark holders can be a bit unreasonable there | 18:49 |
| * greg-g nods | 18:49 | |
| robmyers | cabeza if you don't want to pay you don't have to register, just have a common law trademark. TM rather than (R). but ask a lawyer (or Google) about the advantages of registering. | 18:50 |
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| aL3aqrab | i neED smtp Pm aLL spammer | 22:54 |
| greg-g | goOD luCk With thaT | 22:57 |
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| zigzig | hi guys, I have a little question about CC licenses: may I use a picture under CC By-SA 2.5 and include it in a document which, itself, will be licensed under CC by-sa 3.0 ? | 23:40 |
| zigzig | I mean, does it work like "GNU GPL V2 or, (at your option) any later license published by the Free Software Foundation" so that one can pick up code under GNU GPL 2 and relicense it either under GNU GPL 2 or 3? | 23:41 |
| ianweller | i'm vaguely sure it works lke that | 23:46 |
| greg-g | zigzig: Yes. See paragraph b under Restrictions: | 23:47 |
| greg-g | You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform a Derivative Work only under the terms of this License, a later version of this License with the same License Elements as this License, or a Creative Commons iCommons license that contains the same License Elements as this License (e.g. Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 Japan). | 23:47 |
| greg-g | from: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/legalcode | 23:48 |
| zigzig | great! thank you ianweller and greg-g :) | 23:48 |
| mattl | some kind of clarification/table of this would be good from CC | 23:48 |
| greg-g | mattl: all the info is available for all, we even have a publicly available wiki :) | 23:48 |
| greg-g | also, check: http://ur1.ca/288l | 23:49 |
| greg-g | only partially what you want | 23:50 |
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| greg-g | here is a quick scan of the by-sa license by me right now: versions that you can use a work of and relicense under a newer by-sa version are: 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0. But you can't with 1.0. 1.0 has to stay 1.0. | 23:55 |
| greg-g | IANALandallthat | 23:55 |
| greg-g | mattl: ^ | 23:55 |
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