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| mlinksva | greg-g: ``we just used #CC0 for a work in our #dScribe session (someone else's work, not ours). It hasn't even had its "Grand Opening" yet!'' | 00:23 |
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| mlinksva | ? | 00:23 |
| mlinksva | but cc0 is for waiving all restrictions you have on a work | 00:23 |
| mlinksva | (ie i'm confused by the "someone else's work" part) | 00:24 |
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| greg-g | mlinksva: I mean, they said they released the work with CC0, so we had to find the license url for our metadata purposes | 01:12 |
| greg-g | so, we found a work that is Zero'd, and we had to signify that in our records. so, should have said "we just USED a CCO work..." | 01:13 |
| mlinksva | ah | 01:22 |
| mlinksva | greg-g: :) | 01:22 |
| greg-g | and I was having trouble typing that out, I wanted to say "a work released under the CC0 license...err" ... "released via CC0.." -- "a work that has had all restrictions waived via CC0" is just too long. | 01:24 |
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| mlinksva | greg-g: yeah, some discussion this afternoon about how to recommend talking about it | 01:57 |
| mlinksva | "released with/via/under CC0" is not bad | 01:58 |
| greg-g | mlinksva: ok, good to know. | 01:58 |
| mlinksva | "waiver" is definitely preferred if you wanted something in the place of "license" | 01:59 |
| greg-g | right | 01:59 |
| mlinksva | personally, i'd like to tie to PD as much as possible, eg "work dedicated to the public domain with CC0" but that is also unweidly | 01:59 |
| greg-g | "released under the CC0 waiver" is ok sounding. | 02:00 |
| mlinksva | yeah | 02:00 |
| greg-g | hmm, good point | 02:00 |
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| mlinksva | should have some more refined talking points around that in a day or so | 02:01 |
| greg-g | I would shy away from the word dedication so close to public domain just because of the defunt pd dedication | 02:01 |
| greg-g | Yeah, figured. We're anxiously waiting for the blog post | 02:01 |
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| greg-g | add a "c" up there | 02:02 |
| greg-g | anywhere you want, really, I'm just missing one :) | 02:02 |
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| mlinksva | greg-g: yep, that confusion concern has been expressed. i'm not worried about it, reality is the existing PDDC is not a household name | 02:05 |
| mlinksva | maybe we should say "pd release" or "pd waiver" instead of "pd dedication" for cc0 | 02:06 |
| mlinksva | personally i love the "no copyright" header on the deed ("no law" in some mockups was even better) and wish it was just called "no copyright" ... "work released under No Copyright" :) | 02:07 |
| mlinksva | ah well | 02:07 |
| greg-g | haha, that'd be great | 02:08 |
| mlinksva | I want an NC I can believe in :) | 02:08 |
| greg-g | :) | 02:09 |
| mattl | remember kids, NC is not cool cause there's no community. | 02:13 |
| mattl | mlinksva: finally got mod points on slashdot. so went back and modded all your stuff appropriately. | 02:14 |
| mattl | -1, Flamebait ;) | 02:14 |
| mlinksva | open mattl, thanks! :) | 02:16 |
| mlinksva | mattl: who needs community when you know the art of community? | 02:19 |
| mattl | i can't read the book. | 02:19 |
| mattl | i'm not permitted to use it commercially. | 02:19 |
| mattl | as soon as the FSF sells one more tshirt thanks to the book, O'Reilly police will get me. | 02:20 |
| mlinksva | and you won't be able to plead the 5th | 02:22 |
| mlinksva | (it's severed) | 02:22 |
| mattl | it's okay. i abandoned my very large, oversized radio. now i no longer have to lug it around. | 02:25 |
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| paulproteus | add a "c" cup there | 04:59 |
| paulproteus | wait, that's not what greg-g said )-: | 04:59 |
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| Matson | Flickr doesn't offer a Creative Commons Public Domain option - from a comment in a disucssion group going on just now | 18:05 |
| Matson | fyi | 18:05 |
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| mlinksva | http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/US/138/ | 18:16 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i want to completely shut down the license engine on labs | 18:29 |
| nathany | if i edit the varnish VCL, will you give it a skim for me? | 18:29 |
| nathany | (sanity check) | 18:29 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i did the edits, if you can double check at your leisure i'd appreciate it | 18:31 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Sure. | 18:31 |
| nkinkade | I'll check it now. | 18:31 |
| nathany | thanks | 18:31 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I don't see what you changed. I guess this is one case where paulproteus' idea of etckeeper would be helpful. | 18:33 |
| paulproteus | etckeeper is the bomb diggety. | 18:34 |
| nathany | nkinkade: in the places where it checks for /licenses and /license, and then for hostname, i removed the set backend for zope_labs and replaced it with a pass | 18:34 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I might be missing something obvious, but do we need the if/then at all? Why not just have all the /license stuff go right to zope_staging? | 18:35 |
| nathany | well we still need the hostname check, right? otherwise labs.cc.org/license will go to the staging instance (as opposed to apache where it gets redirected to production)_ | 18:36 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ^^ | 18:39 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Is Apache currently redirecting labs/license to production? | 18:41 |
| nkinkade | It shouldn't affect the /license/zero stuff because I've got other rules for that. | 18:41 |
| nathany | we were talking about it here and it didn't seem to make sense to continue to run the whole license engine on labs, so i revved the redirects to send it to production | 18:42 |
| nkinkade | That is, do you want to shutdown cc.engine on labs 100%? | 18:42 |
| nathany | just in case someone is linking to it | 18:42 |
| nkinkade | Oh, I didn't know you had added rewrite rules for labs recently. | 18:43 |
| johndoigiii | nathany: would you like to meet today to coordinate the next few weeks with me? | 18:43 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i just did it 5 minutes ago | 18:43 |
| nathany | johndoigiii: yes | 18:43 |
| nkinkade | In that case, I guess everything seems fine. | 18:43 |
| nathany | i have a meeting @ 11 which should go for 30 min, right after that? | 18:43 |
| nathany | sorry i didn't get to it yesterday, johndoigiii | 18:43 |
| nathany | thanks, nkinkade | 18:43 |
| nkinkade | We could potentially do redirects with varnish, but it seems much harder than with mod_rewrite. | 18:43 |
| johndoigiii | okay, I will be out of the office 12-2:30 or so | 18:43 |
| nathany | nkinkade: harder and less obvious | 18:44 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Shall I restart Varnish? | 18:44 |
| nathany | johndoigiii: got it | 18:44 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sure | 18:44 |
| nathany | nkinkade: thanks | 18:44 |
| nkinkade | nathany: http://labs.creativcommons.org/license/ | 18:45 |
| nathany | nkinkade: awesome | 18:45 |
| nathany | we can go ahead and remove that from monitoring as well | 18:45 |
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| nkinkade | I had misspelled the URL, but it doesn't seem to be working for http://labs.creativecommons.org/license/ | 18:49 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ^^ Should your new rules have a RewriteCond of %{HTTP_HOST} =labs.creativecommons.org? | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | Because there are some rewrite rules after it, though probably handled by Varnish nowadays. | 18:50 |
| nathany | nkinkade: those rules are in the site configuration so they should only apply to the site[s] defined in the virtual host, right? | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | Oh, damn, sorry. | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | You're right. | 18:51 |
| nathany | np :) | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | But is that URL redirecting correctly for you. | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | ? | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | For me it redirects to: http://labs.creativecommons.org/2008/05/26/license‑oriented-metadata-validator-and-viewer-the-development-has-just-started/ | 18:52 |
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| paulproteus | Bovinity, OT: Do you know if there's a way to get from treasure island to the east bay without going back to SF first? | 18:52 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It also appears to me that your first rule negates the 2nd. | 18:52 |
| nathany | nkinkade: can you release your lock on the file? | 18:52 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: er, yes, there's a route out to the e.bay | 18:52 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: when you take the road back to the bridge, it forks, take the left fork | 18:53 |
| paulproteus | Oh, I mean without a car. | 18:53 |
| Bovinity | oh | 18:53 |
| Bovinity | no | 18:53 |
| Bovinity | no bus | 18:53 |
| nkinkade | nathany: The 2nd rule will never get processes, and I think those 2 rules can be combined into: | 18:53 |
| paulproteus | Right-o. | 18:53 |
| Bovinity | TI is so awesome like that. | 18:53 |
| nathany | right; i omitted a $ | 18:53 |
| nkinkade | RewriteRule ^/license/?(.*) http://creativecommons.org/license/$1 | 18:53 |
| nkinkade | Better: ^/license(/?.*) | 18:54 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yup, thanks | 18:55 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: do you find yourself stuck on treasure island? | 18:57 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Luckily, no. (-: | 18:57 |
| Bovinity | phew! | 18:57 |
| paulproteus | A friend on #noisebridge was just wondering. | 18:57 |
| paulproteus | Maybe she plans to be stuck there later. | 18:57 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I guess you'll combine the 2nd set of rules too ... and I also suppose we can delete all the subsequent ^/license rules, as they are caught earlier now. | 18:57 |
| nkinkade | (and ^/licenses) | 18:57 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I made the change above, and I also fixed a problem with creativecommons.vcl. We were setting req.url *before* the if/then, so we were passing a mangled URL to Apache which would explain why it was producing such unexpected results like redirecting to http://labs.creativecommons.org/2008/05/26/license‑oriented-metadata-validator-and-viewer-the-development-has-just-started/ for no apparent reason. It seems to be worki | 19:08 |
| paulproteus | "It seems to be worki"[trunc] | 19:11 |
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| mecredis | nathany: there? | 19:43 |
| nathany | mecredis: in a mtg, what's up? | 19:43 |
| mecredis | ah, just some license deed / rdfa questions | 19:44 |
| mecredis | and possible bug | 19:44 |
| mecredis | just ping me when you're free | 19:44 |
| nathany | ok | 19:44 |
| mecredis | but check http://www.uncensoredinterview.com/vlogs/11222-matthew-dear-the-more-the-better | 19:44 |
| mecredis | and click through to the license | 19:44 |
| mecredis | deed is showing @ as %40 | 19:45 |
| greg-g | mecredis: the source of the originating page has %40 | 19:46 |
| greg-g | <a href="mailto:licensing%40uncensoredinterview.com?subject=License+Matthew+Dear: | 19:46 |
| mecredis | ah | 19:46 |
| mecredis | thanks | 19:46 |
| greg-g | np | 19:46 |
| mecredis | will ask why they didn't use @ | 19:46 |
| * greg-g nods | 19:47 | |
| mattl | anti-spam, maybe. | 19:47 |
| greg-g | well done implementation of the license info, though | 19:47 |
| nathany | johndoigiii: http://openidenabled.com/python-openid/trunk/examples/consumer/ | 19:47 |
| Bovinity | dodgy anti-spam | 19:47 |
| paulproteus | I guess that's URL encoding. | 19:47 |
| paulproteus | In theory that should be a safe thing to do. | 19:48 |
| mecredis | yeah, I've been working with them for a while | 19:48 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: so the cc engine should see that and convert it to an @? | 19:48 |
| mecredis | we're about to launch it / push out a press release | 19:48 |
| greg-g | mecredis: cool | 19:48 |
| mecredis | doing mv_embed / html 5 / ogg on the blog | 19:48 |
| mecredis | with a fall back to flash | 19:49 |
| paulproteus | Nice! | 19:49 |
| mecredis | should be interesting | 19:49 |
| paulproteus | Yay mv_embed. | 19:49 |
| mecredis | wow | 19:49 |
| mecredis | and it works on staging | 19:49 |
| mecredis | hurrah | 19:49 |
| mecredis | though you have to force width & height | 19:49 |
| mecredis | strange | 19:49 |
| mecredis | oh no that was my error, nm | 19:50 |
| mattl | mv_embed? | 19:50 |
| paulproteus | mattl, http://metavid.org/w/index.php/Mv_embed | 19:50 |
| nathany | greg-g: mecredis: the problem isn't the license engine, it's the javascript that doens't decode it properly... :( | 19:50 |
| mecredis | hrm | 19:50 |
| paulproteus | Theora-preferring, Free Software-preferring video embedder | 19:50 |
| mecredis | hrm, still screwing up my aspect ratio | 19:51 |
| paulproteus | mecredis, Be a pal and try to fix the JS? (-; | 19:51 |
| paulproteus | Or file a ticket. | 19:51 |
| * paulproteus gets back to staff call bot stuff for now | 19:51 | |
| mecredis | paulproteus: hrm wait | 19:51 |
| * paulproteus waits | 19:51 | |
| mecredis | where would the JS be fixed? | 19:51 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: be a pal and publish the post onto staging | 19:51 |
| mecredis | haha | 19:51 |
| mecredis | ok | 19:52 |
| mecredis | http://staging.creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/10525 | 19:52 |
| mecredis | hrm | 19:52 |
| mecredis | mv_embed is pickin gup on it | 19:52 |
| Bovinity | hmmm, that's weird | 19:52 |
| mecredis | but not sizing it properly | 19:52 |
| paulproteus | mecredis, I'm not sure, somewhere on that deed... | 19:53 |
| Bovinity | wow, it's really broken in Fx3.0 | 19:53 |
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| greg-g | interesting use of CC+, not for commercial purposes, but for publicity rights. | 19:53 |
| mecredis | well its a little of both | 19:54 |
| mecredis | you could use CC+ for BY | 19:54 |
| mecredis | yeah, mv_embed really doesn't like 3.0 | 19:54 |
| mecredis | blargh | 19:54 |
| mecredis | it may just ahve to default to whatever ogv player there is | 19:55 |
| Bovinity | well it's saying the video doesn't exist any more | 19:55 |
| mecredis | yea | 19:56 |
| mecredis | it must be getting confused about the url | 19:56 |
| mecredis | eh, I think we should pass on mv_embed | 19:56 |
| mecredis | for now | 19:56 |
| mecredis | http://creativecommons.org/?p=13145&preview=true works | 19:56 |
| Bovinity | does it use <video> correctly too? | 19:58 |
| mecredis | yeah | 19:58 |
| mecredis | it just doesn't 'upgrade' to the installed player | 19:58 |
| mecredis | on FF 3.1 | 19:58 |
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| mecredis | and defaults, I think, to flash on 3.0 | 19:58 |
| Bovinity | yeah, flash fallback works | 19:59 |
| mecredis | yeah, going to run with that | 19:59 |
| paulproteus | (Fx 3.1...) | 20:00 |
| paulproteus | (-; | 20:00 |
| Bovinity | mecredis: maybe make a note in the post that it's using <video> where available | 20:00 |
| Bovinity | for effect | 20:00 |
| mecredis | yeah, will have a * at the bottom | 20:00 |
| mecredis | and maybe follow up when b3 drops | 20:00 |
| mecredis | about it more officially | 20:00 |
| Bovinity | cool | 20:01 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: why Fx instead of FF? since it is one word not two? | 20:01 |
| paulproteus | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&hs=UOz&q=+site:www.mozilla.com+firefox+abbreviation+fx | 20:02 |
| paulproteus | No idea why, but MoCo insists. | 20:02 |
| greg-g | I read that as efex, as in SFX, special effects | 20:03 |
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| paulproteus | Special Firefox | 20:08 |
| mecredis | anyone know how to get resolution of an ogg file? | 20:14 |
| mecredis | like W x H ? | 20:14 |
| mecredis | VLC is silent | 20:14 |
| mecredis | eh nm | 20:15 |
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| mecredis | http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/13145 | 20:36 |
| mecredis | :) | 20:36 |
| mattl | mecredis: install ogg-tools. | 20:36 |
| mecredis | ok | 20:37 |
| mattl | there's a bunch of useful things there which will save you time. | 20:37 |
| mecredis | k | 20:37 |
| greg-g | mecredis: nice link to the flash wikipedia article :) | 20:37 |
| mecredis | :) | 20:37 |
| greg-g | I think you just got some points from mattl | 20:38 |
| * mattl hugs mecredis | 20:38 | |
| mecredis | hahah | 20:38 |
| mattl | NOW DESTROY YOUR KINDLE AND IPHONE ;) | 20:38 |
| greg-g | haha | 20:39 |
| mecredis | kindle is almost there | 20:39 |
| mecredis | I cracked the screen | 20:39 |
| mattl | haha | 20:39 |
| mecredis | yeah | 20:39 |
| mecredis | I mean I'd rather try it out | 20:39 |
| mattl | i can send you a rock in the mail if you like | 20:39 |
| mecredis | and decide it sucks | 20:39 |
| mattl | are you coming to boston on the 21st/22dn? | 20:40 |
| mecredis | of March? | 20:40 |
| mattl | yeah | 20:40 |
| mecredis | hrm, have trips on either side | 20:40 |
| mecredis | its FSF ? | 20:40 |
| paulproteus | mattl, I yam. | 20:41 |
| mattl | paulproteus: yes, you and mlinksva are on my list. | 20:41 |
| mattl | mecredis: yeah, come up man. | 20:41 |
| mecredis | it might be a last minute decision | 20:42 |
| mecredis | but yeah | 20:42 |
| mecredis | thanks for the heads up | 20:42 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to go offline to eat lunch and take my bike the shop; see y'all office-dwellers around two. | 20:42 |
| mecredis | ciao | 20:42 |
| robmyers | mattl when you say on your list... | 20:56 |
| mlinksva | yeah, i finally bought my plane tickets, arriving around 5pm thu, will hang out fri at SC if anyone's there, leaving mon morn | 20:56 |
| robmyers | mlinksva you're going to be at libre planet? | 20:57 |
| mlinksva | yes | 20:57 |
| robmyers | oh cool. I'm going to be there as well | 20:57 |
| mlinksva | cool. i guess we've never met f2f oddly enough | 20:57 |
| robmyers | the internet does things like that... | 20:58 |
| mlinksva | it sure made me stupid | 20:58 |
| robmyers | heh. I'd dispute that. don't tell mattl, but the last even I was in the states for was Apple's WWDC. Mind you that was in 2000... | 21:00 |
| robmyers | even -> event | 21:02 |
| mlinksva | i'm proud to be a lifelong apple hater | 21:12 |
| mlinksva | well, only semi-proud, it is kind of irrational | 21:12 |
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| robmyers | I've been in recovery from Apple for a few years now | 21:19 |
| mattl | robmyers: mlinksva is far more pleasant IRL | 21:30 |
| mattl | mlinksva: watch out for that myers character. bit of a douchebag offline, tbh. | 21:31 |
| robmyers | LOL | 21:31 |
| mattl | i moved to boston to get away from him. | 21:33 |
| paulproteus | I'm eating lunch in the Mission to steer clear of him. | 21:33 |
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| paulproteus | BTW I just got the umbrella removed from my bike. | 21:33 |
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| paulproteus | So the standard Debian package builder, pbuilder, uses a chroot. | 21:51 |
| paulproteus | I'm setting up qemubuilder and package builds will now happen in a qemu. (Advantage: I can compile for any architecture!) | 21:51 |
| greg-g | yay | 21:52 |
| mecredis | is there any reason you guys can tell | 21:53 |
| mecredis | why the deeds aren't scraping uncensored intervbiew pages | 21:53 |
| mecredis | ? | 21:53 |
| mecredis | shouldn't it be generating a little attribution link | 21:53 |
| mecredis | when referred from | 21:53 |
| mecredis | http://www.uncensoredinterview.com/vlogs/11222-matthew-dear-the-more-the-better | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | CC+ comes in fine. | 21:54 |
| paulproteus | Let's see about attribution... | 21:54 |
| * paulproteus uses validator.creativecommons.org | 21:54 | |
| mecredis | it works on this site: | 21:54 |
| mecredis | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:18 | 21:54 |
| paulproteus | And this validator doesn't appear to be aware of anything but the license predicate. Weird. | 21:54 |
| mecredis | validator seems to like it | 21:55 |
| mecredis | yeah | 21:55 |
| mecredis | I'm thinking it might be because of the javascript | 21:55 |
| paulproteus | Oh, is the data not there until you click the button? | 21:55 |
| mecredis | yeahhhhh | 21:55 |
| mecredis | well it is | 21:55 |
| mecredis | I think it just renders it | 21:55 |
| paulproteus | Let me see. | 21:55 |
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| mecredis | <div class='license'> | 21:56 |
| mecredis | <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/" id="license_toggle" rel="license"><img alt="Creative Commons License" src="http://i.creativecommons.org/l/by/3.0/us/80x15.png" /></a> | 21:56 |
| mecredis | <div id='license'> | 21:56 |
| mecredis | <span class='license_vlog_title' href='http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/MovingImage' property='dc:title' rel='dc:type' xmlns:dc='http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/'>Matthew Dear: The More, the Better</span> | 21:56 |
| mecredis | by | 21:56 |
| mecredis | <a href="http://www.uncensoredinterview.com" property="cc:attributionName" rel="cc:attributionURL" xmlns:cc="http://createcommons.org/ns#">Uncensored Interview</a> | 21:56 |
| mecredis | is licensed under a | 21:56 |
| mecredis | <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/" rel="license">Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 United States License</a>. | 21:56 |
| mecredis | The license prohibits use of the work in any manner that implies endorsement by the author. The privacy and publicity rights of individuals appearing in the interview are not affected in any way by the license. Permissions beyond the scope of this license are available by contacting | 21:56 |
| mecredis | <a href="mailto:licensing%40uncensoredinterview.com?subject=License+Matthew+Dear:+The+More,+the+Better+(11222)" rel="cc:morePermissions" xmlns:cc="http://creativecommons.org/ns#">licensing at uncensoredinterview.com</a>. | 21:56 |
| mecredis | </div> | 21:56 |
| mecredis | blaaargh | 21:56 |
| mecredis | sorry | 21:56 |
| mecredis | wrong window | 21:56 |
| paulproteus | rel="cc:attributionURL" | 21:56 |
| paulproteus | Seems okay. | 21:56 |
| paulproteus | http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/impl/js/ finds it properly. | 21:57 |
| paulproteus | nope | 21:57 |
| paulproteus | createcommons.org != creativecommons.org | 21:57 |
| paulproteus | hilarious. | 21:57 |
| mecredis | hah! | 21:58 |
| mecredis | of course | 21:58 |
| mecredis | That's really funny. | 21:58 |
| paulproteus | Do a global search and replace of createcommons.org -> creativecommons.org and you'll probably do fine. | 21:58 |
| paulproteus | Makes me want to register createcommons.org and make that RDF mean something tragic. | 21:59 |
| mecredis | hahah | 21:59 |
| paulproteus | (I know, the RDF is just an opaque identifier, but anyone who goes to createcommons.org would learn what I want it to mean.) | 21:59 |
| paulproteus | Like how this year in the Mystery Hunt there was a puzzle entitled Petwitter which referred the nonexistent domain petwitter.com. | 21:59 |
| paulproteus | So I bought it and made it Redirect to RedHerring.com. | 21:59 |
| paulproteus | Anyway. | 22:00 |
| greg-g | nice | 22:00 |
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| mecredis | paulproteus: createcommons -> creativecommons on http://www.uncensoredinterview.com/vlogs/11222-matthew-dear-the-more-the-better | 22:32 |
| paulproteus | mecredis, Great, it all works! | 22:33 |
| mlinksva | paulproteus: " the RDF is just an opaque identifier" | 22:33 |
| paulproteus | That was one *awesome* bug. | 22:33 |
| mlinksva | aren't you missing a word or something? | 22:33 |
| mecredis | yeah, that was pretty fun | 22:33 |
| * paulproteus giggles. | 22:33 | |
| mecredis | oh spelling errors | 22:34 |
| paulproteus | Those pesky humans. | 22:34 |
| nathany | nkinkade: fyi zope seems cool with python 2.5 these days | 22:36 |
| nathany | but we'll need to re-buildout which will take some time | 22:36 |
| nathany | we should probably do that before the upgrade (assuming python2.4 and 2.5 are both there right now) | 22:36 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Cool. I'll arrange with you before I do any upgrades. | 22:37 |
| nathany | thanks | 22:37 |
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| paulproteus | mlinksva, Precisely which flight are you taking eastward? | 23:06 |
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| mlinksva | Thu, Mar 19, 2009 San Francisco, CA (SFO) to Boston, MA (BOS) | 23:17 |
| mlinksva | United 0172 | 23:17 |
| mlinksva | Depart: SFO 8:25 | 23:17 |
| mlinksva | Arrive: BOS 17:00 Non-stop | 23:17 |
| mlinksva | 5h 35m | 23:17 |
| mlinksva | paulproteus: ^ | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | Weird, you're not a Virgin flight! | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | s/not a/not on a/ | 23:17 |
| mlinksva | why's that weird? | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | I thought everybody loved Virgin. | 23:18 |
| paulproteus | Power and wifi! | 23:18 |
| mlinksva | i didn't know they had power and wifi | 23:18 |
| paulproteus | Plus Linux entertainment consoles. | 23:18 |
| mlinksva | i've only been on it once or twice | 23:18 |
| mlinksva | yeah i know about that, but i never use any backseat console | 23:19 |
| paulproteus | I've used Virgin's to order food before. | 23:19 |
| paulproteus | That's about it, I suppose. | 23:19 |
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| mlinksva | i never order food either on planes. nothing exists but me and the drone of jet engines | 23:20 |
| mlinksva | and i don't understand being in love with a company. the 2nd of two times i took virgin america, in the self checkin thing they had an attendant, and the person next to me checking in painfully went on and on about how "innovative" virgin service is. it was really emabarrassing. but honestly, it looked like united's price and timing was competitive, so i booked directly with them, since that's the one i have most miles with | 23:25 |
| mlinksva | ps I wish virgin used apple entertainment consoles so i could really hate them | 23:28 |
| robmyers | virmin have wifi? | 23:28 |
| robmyers | I'm coming over on virmin... | 23:28 |
| robmyers | I was hoping to get offline for about a working day ;-) | 23:29 |
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| mlinksva | i think it is effectively a different company because the US can't let the terrorists win and have a domestic airline be British | 23:29 |
| robmyers | LOL | 23:30 |
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| mlinksva | mecredis: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2009/03/more_open_video.html | 23:34 |
| mlinksva | wow, and http://www.boingboing.net/2009/03/05/uncensored-interview.html | 23:36 |
| mlinksva | otoh it's pretty sad that in 2009 that making available in an open format adds anything at all to a story (as opposed to just being ubiq) | 23:37 |
| mecredis | yeah | 23:38 |
| mecredis | I agree | 23:38 |
| mecredis | nice post | 23:38 |
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| kreynen | Is anyone here going to be in Austin during SXSW? | 23:51 |
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| kreynen | I'd like to get someone from CC to talk to channelAustin about CC licensing while we're there. | 23:53 |
| Bovinity | CC will have a booth at SxSW | 23:54 |
| kreynen | great... unfortunately everyone from Denver Open Media with badges is already using and promoting CC | 23:55 |
| kreynen | channelAustin is part of the Knight NewsChallenge funded Open Media Project, but they don't want to use CC licensing | 23:55 |
| nathany | kreynen: send an email to webmaster@creativecommons.org; i'll forward it on to the people who will be there | 23:56 |
| nathany | (just put at the top "nathany on irc said to send this" :) | 23:56 |
| kreynen | nathany: thanks | 23:57 |
| nathany | sure :) | 23:57 |
| nathany | ok, i'm heading home... i'll forward that when it comes through, kreynen | 23:58 |
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