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| nathany | Bovinity: morning | 18:12 |
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| Bovinity | nathany: howdy | 18:12 |
| nathany | johndoigiii and I had a question we wanted your input on (wrt CC Network) | 18:13 |
| nathany | right now login behavior looks like this: | 18:13 |
| nathany | * if you're at the login page because you requested a privileged page, you get redirected to that page | 18:13 |
| nathany | * otherwise, you get redirected to the referrer (unless it's the logout page) | 18:13 |
| Bovinity | ok | 18:13 |
| nathany | the other day we had a 30 second conversation about sending people to their profile | 18:14 |
| nathany | the question is, does that replace #2 in the list above? | 18:14 |
| Bovinity | i see that as teh result of clicking the "Login" button | 18:14 |
| nathany | instead of redirecting people to the referrer? | 18:15 |
| nathany | (i'm coming around to that position) | 18:15 |
| Bovinity | yeah | 18:15 |
| nathany | great | 18:15 |
| Bovinity | either you're trying to get a protected page, or you're trying to login, yeah? | 18:15 |
| nathany | johndoigiii, let's kill the referrer detection | 18:15 |
| nathany | right | 18:15 |
| johndoigiii | alrighty | 18:15 |
| johndoigiii | exclusively to the profile then? | 18:15 |
| Bovinity | cool | 18:15 |
| nathany | and if you're trying to login, you get sent to your profile, right Bovinity? | 18:15 |
| Bovinity | yeah | 18:15 |
| nathany | right | 18:16 |
| johndoigiii | cool | 18:16 |
| nathany | ok, so we'll need to detect that in the POST handler, johndoigiii... i'll leave you to that :) | 18:16 |
| johndoigiii | alrighty | 18:16 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: Good moring. | 19:01 |
| nkinkade | *morning | 19:01 |
| nkinkade | Any idea why printing the /international page returns such horrible and incomplete results? | 19:02 |
| Bovinity | in what way? | 19:04 |
| Bovinity | the print preview looks fine to me | 19:04 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Maybe it's Firefox? | 19:05 |
| nkinkade | When I do print preview I get 3 pages, the first of which has no images at all, the second page has an incomplete list of flags, and the 3rd page has essentially nothing. | 19:05 |
| nkinkade | About half the page content is gone. | 19:05 |
| Bovinity | um, strange | 19:06 |
| Bovinity | maybe it's a linux/cups thing? | 19:06 |
| nkinkade | I ask because Michelle sent a message to me, and some other woman contacted them about not being able to print it. | 19:07 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Does it look fine in Firefox and Safari on your Mac? | 19:07 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: hmm, looks fine in Safari, but firefox does put the body contents onto page 2, header on page 1, footer on 3. | 19:10 |
| Bovinity | but all the content is there | 19:10 |
| hdworak | hi. why is there no SSL on creativecommons.org? | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: But on page 2, are all the flags there? | 19:11 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: yep | 19:11 |
| hdworak | there are a few places where login is required like code.creativecommons.org/issues or the wiki | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | On mine, the last flag on page 2 is Portugal. | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: the last flag on page 2 for you is Ukraine? | 19:12 |
| nkinkade | I don't see how all the flags and upcoming jurisdictions could all fit onto one page. | 19:12 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: they all fit on mine | 19:12 |
| Bovinity | on safari, the last flag on page 1 is hungary | 19:13 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Do you have a convenient way to print to PDF and then possibly you could sen me the file? | 19:13 |
| Bovinity | safari scales the page more intelligently though | 19:13 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: sent | 19:15 |
| nkinkade | Thanks! | 19:15 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: The PDF you sent looks just like the print preview of Firefox. The last flag is Portugal. | 19:17 |
| Bovinity | oh | 19:17 |
| Bovinity | yeah, i see it now | 19:17 |
| nkinkade | It's missing about 1/3 of the launched flags, and all of the "Upcoming" ones. | 19:17 |
| nkinkade | If I disable CSS I see all the content, but of course it's ugly that way. | 19:18 |
| Bovinity | how do other long pages look for you? | 19:19 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: i tweaked the chevron positioning for the ahab MainPage; do they appear in the right place for you? Hopefully my mac fonts aren't overcompensating | 19:20 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: The front page of CC.org is all messed up, for example, in terms of printing. | 19:22 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: messed up in the same way? | 19:22 |
| nkinkade | Basically unprintable. | 19:22 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Yeah, with the first page having nothing but the header, the 2nd page totally whacked and incomplete, and the 3rd page with the footer. | 19:22 |
| nkinkade | Is there something we could be doing with CSS to make this better? | 19:23 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: i'm tempted to write a very stripped down print style sheet | 19:23 |
| nkinkade | media="{screen,print}" | 19:23 |
| nkinkade | I figure this is totally low priority because we haven't heard anything about this yet, at least this is the first I've heard of it. | 19:24 |
| nkinkade | But I guess in the long term, and perhaps integral the redesigns we could make sure that printing of pages mostly works. | 19:24 |
| Bovinity | i don't know what's changed to make firefox do that | 19:25 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: So it looks just fine in Safari? | 19:33 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: yep | 19:33 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: not sure if that applies to any WebKit based browser, or just mac safari | 19:34 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: I made a ticket just in case. | 19:36 |
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| paulproteus | Bovinity, Ooh, chevrons. | 19:50 |
| paulproteus | They seem fine to me. | 19:50 |
| Bovinity | sweet | 19:50 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, for reals! | 19:51 |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: how come the footer reverted to the old text? | 19:55 |
| paulproteus | er, will take a look | 19:56 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: oh, it's the old text oly on Main_Page | 19:56 |
| paulproteus | Figures. | 19:56 |
| * paulproteus fixes | 19:56 | |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, http://opened.creativecommons.org/skins/ahab/from_whitewhale/images/common/opened_logo_tagline.gif looks vaguely ugly to me - can you remake it as PNG? | 19:57 |
| paulproteus | The "open" text isn't as soft-looking as I would like? | 19:58 |
| paulproteus | I don't know for sure if this was a problem with the previous version. | 19:58 |
| Bovinity | oh, i think i know what's wrong there | 19:58 |
| * Bovinity checks | 19:58 | |
| Bovinity | fixed :) | 19:59 |
| Bovinity | i made the graphic smaller... html was using the old height | 19:59 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: why doesn't the homepage have the login header that normal pages get? | 20:06 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, No reason yet, just haven't done it. | 20:06 |
| paulproteus | Yay re: fixed. | 20:06 |
| paulproteus | Current task queue: fix footer on Main_Page, fix login header. | 20:08 |
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| paulproteus | Current task queue: fix login header. | 21:20 |
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| paulproteus | Bovinity, Now even http://opened.creativecommons.org/Main_Page has a top box. | 21:32 |
| Bovinity | yay! even though having the page tools there is a bit redundant | 21:33 |
| paulproteus | nathany, CC by 3.0 US, you think, for this? | 21:33 |
| paulproteus | (for the site) | 21:33 |
| nathany | for opened? | 21:33 |
| nathany | unported :) | 21:33 |
| paulproteus | ya | 21:33 |
| nathany | (FTW) | 21:33 |
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| paulproteus | Bovinity, http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue174 - you okay with lowercase "contact us"? | 21:45 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: sentence case, Contact us | 21:46 |
| * paulproteus removes the text-transform: lowercase. | 21:48 | |
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| lfaraone | Hi, can I use the CC_BY_SA_NC license for code? If not, what's a license that does the same thing? | 22:29 |
| mattl | lfaraone: you should use a free software license like the GNU GPLv3. | 22:29 |
| mattl | CC licenses are not meant for code. | 22:30 |
| lfaraone | mattl: GPL won't work since the code should not be usable commercially. | 22:30 |
| nathany | lfaraone: i'm not aware of an open source/free license the prohibits commercial use | 22:30 |
| nathany | but the CC licenses are specifically not designed for code | 22:30 |
| mattl | any license that prohibits commercial use would not be a free license. same for open source. | 22:31 |
| nathany | (of course, lfaraone didn't ask for a free or open source license :) ) | 22:31 |
| mattl | lfaraone: consider allowing commercial usage. what would be the reason for not allowing it? | 22:31 |
| lfaraone | mattl: oh, I think that comm. use should be allowed, but I'm giving advise to a friend who has stated they "want to keep control over the source code, as in I don't want other people using it to make money" | 22:34 |
| lfaraone | mattl: and I'm explaining to them why that's a silly idea (as in it prohibits someone using it as part of a job, etc) | 22:35 |
| mattl | lfaraone: you should just suggest he use the GPL, seriously. | 22:35 |
| lfaraone | mattl: oh, I am. but he still wants a NC license to weigh it with. | 22:36 |
| mattl | well, the MAME license is a copyleft NC license. | 22:36 |
| lfaraone | mattl: kk. | 22:36 |
| paulproteus | Oh, the MAME license. /me sighs. | 22:37 |
| lfaraone | mattl: I'm also telling him that he can't even link to GPL code. | 22:38 |
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| lfaraone | mattl: which is the case, right? | 22:44 |
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| mattl | lfaraone: for sure. | 22:54 |
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| paulproteus | brb, naptime. | 23:03 |
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| paulproteus | (morning) | 23:48 |
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