| nathany | why not just use /support(/?) as the regex? | 00:04 |
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| nathany | fwiw, i'm heading out | 00:04 |
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| paulproteus | BTW, I like to do Redirect /support/index.html http://whatever.com/ | 00:17 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Is the office net fasteR? | 00:18 |
| paulproteus | I shaped some stuff I was doing. | 00:18 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: yes | 00:18 |
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| paulproteus | Yay | 00:18 |
| Bovinity | i didn't want to point fingers, but i suspected it was all you | 00:18 |
| Bovinity | ;P | 00:18 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 00:19 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Will the redirect you suggest do something different? | 00:20 |
| paulproteus | Yes, I believe. | 00:20 |
| nkinkade | I've currently got: Redirect /support http://someurl.biz | 00:20 |
| nkinkade | So adding the /index.html will cause it to redirect /support and /support/ alike? | 00:21 |
| paulproteus | I sure think so. | 00:21 |
| nkinkade | I can sure try. | 00:21 |
| paulproteus | I'd test in /zupport/index.html to avoid breaking /support/ natch. | 00:22 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: It didn't work. | 00:22 |
| paulproteus | Hmm, let me try something. | 00:23 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: One easy way around that would be to just use a rewrite rule instead of a redirect. | 00:23 |
| paulproteus | For example. | 00:23 |
| nkinkade | RewriteRule /support/? http://long.url?arg=1 [L, R=301] | 00:24 |
| paulproteus | My tests agree with you and now I wonder what I was smoking. | 00:24 |
| paulproteus | Oh, I think what I do is I mkdir the directory and then do the redirect. | 00:24 |
| * paulproteus tries this | 00:24 | |
| paulproteus | Your solution is better I think. | 00:25 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I see what you mean, I think. | 00:25 |
| nkinkade | mkdir ./support | 00:25 |
| paulproteus | My mkdir approach fails too. I could try to figure what I was thinking, but I've got other fish to fry. | 00:25 |
| nkinkade | Then when apache sees a request for /support without the trailing slash it will redirect the support/ which will trigger the Redirect?? | 00:26 |
| paulproteus | Right, I think so. | 00:26 |
| paulproteus | But just do it your way, I'd say. | 00:26 |
| paulproteus | BTW I now run Nagios on rose. | 00:26 |
| paulproteus | status.makesad.us. | 00:26 |
| nkinkade | In any case, I think rewrite rule might be better. | 00:26 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: This might all be a moot point. Do we even care that both /support and /support/ both work? | 00:26 |
| paulproteus | I'd say yes. | 00:27 |
| Bovinity | yes | 00:27 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Okay, it's working better now. | 00:28 |
| Bovinity | yup, that works | 00:29 |
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| greg-g | funny double fail at codeplex.com: 1) using a CC license for source code and 2) using said license legalcode as a EULA click-through. | 02:24 |
| greg-g | http://ur1.ca/1r2l | 02:24 |
| ianweller | that's not funny, that's sad :/ | 02:27 |
| greg-g | well, funny in a "I laugh at other people's mistakes" kind of way ;) | 02:28 |
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| paulproteus | Morning, all. | 18:19 |
| nkinkade | Hi paulproteus. | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Am I wrong in thinking that your post-commit hooks for Pootle also run po2cc and commit the changes? | 18:21 |
| paulproteus | iirc the pre-commit hook runs po2cc and Pootle does the commit. | 18:21 |
| paulproteus | Keep in mind Pootle has its own pre-commit hook. | 18:21 |
| paulproteus | ...so now I understand your question, and I believe yes, that is a mistake. | 18:21 |
| paulproteus | iirc po2cc is never run by the svn repository, only by Pootle. | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | Does that clarify things? | 18:22 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Well, however it is run, I just want to know whether it's run at all. | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | It's run only if you use the Pootle UI. | 18:22 |
| nkinkade | And I'm about to regenerate the Deeds for HK and want to know if I need to run po2cc before I do it. | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | Because it's run by Pootle. So how it's run does matter; you only get the benefit of that automation if you are chatting with Pootle. | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | You should. | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | Well, wait. | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | But if Pootle does it, why would I need to? | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | If you're just doing a svn checkout of i18n, then the data should always be consistent in the repo. | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | So you don't need to. | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | I did try it and the changes seemed minimal, mostly in the header info. | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Super, that's exactly what I wanted to know. | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | Yes, exactly. The svn repo should always be consistent, with the po and CC-style in sync. | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | Great! | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | I would have preferred you telling me if you were accessing the PO files in read mode or in write mode. I presumed you meant write mode knowing no better. | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | As long as cc.engine can pull in all the lastest stuff done by Pootle then I'm good. | 18:25 |
| paulproteus | Yup. | 18:25 |
| paulproteus | Do you see what I mean about the vagueness in the question you asked, though? | 18:25 |
| paulproteus | Humans might also make changes to the repo. | 18:25 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Perhaps, but not infrequently I find that you take what I say so literally that it then takes another 500 works and 5 minutes just to explain everything further. | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | Okay. In this case I tried to extrapolate your meaning and misunderstood. | 18:26 |
| nkinkade | I don't always know how to phrase things in the most absolutely technical and strict terms to avoid all possible ambiguity. | 18:27 |
| paulproteus | But we managed okay, so I guess it turned out fine. | 18:27 |
| paulproteus | In that case, we should both learn Lojban. (-; | 18:27 |
| nkinkade | haha | 18:27 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Anyway, when you ask me things, try to also say what you're going to do based on how I answer. | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | I think that would help me see into your mind more clearly. | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | (That's what demystified this for me eventually.) | 18:30 |
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| nkinkade | I'll try to explain myself better. | 18:33 |
| paulproteus | And I'm on a lifelong quest to be less obtuse, which you can probably help me with. (-: | 18:52 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, BTW, the office 'net is slow and I don't think it's really my fault this time. | 18:57 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: it seems fine to me | 18:58 |
| paulproteus | Huh, never mind then. | 18:58 |
| paulproteus | I was getting 600ms pings to Google. | 18:58 |
| Bovinity | ~111ms to google | 18:58 |
| Bovinity | not awful | 18:58 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, now it's 28ms. | 18:58 |
| paulproteus | Okay. | 18:58 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: I just noticed that the subject of all the tax deduction emails that went (and are ) going out was "(DRY RUN) Corrected receipt for your donation to Creative Commons" | 19:08 |
| nkinkade | That doesn't seem right. | 19:08 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I'm reading the messages wrong. | 19:08 |
| nkinkade | They seem like real emails to people, not a dry run. | 19:08 |
| paulproteus | You're on development@ ? | 19:08 |
| paulproteus | I just sent 38 through that are a dry run, awaiting Melissa's and Allison's ACK. | 19:09 |
| paulproteus | I didn't send a copy to the people named in the "To:" field. | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Yeah, I'm on development@ | 19:09 |
| paulproteus | Also you totally just scared me. (-: | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | Ah. | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | That explains it. | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | Sorry about the false alarm. I was relying to much on the To: field. :-) | 19:10 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 19:10 |
| paulproteus | I have long wanted a PINE header field, "Cosmetic CC:", where you put a person's email in the CC: line in the headers but never do SMTP delivery to the person. | 19:10 |
| paulproteus | So you can say, "To: Dude, CC: Your Boss, Do this for me!" and Your Boss never actually gets a copy. | 19:10 |
| paulproteus | It falls somewhere on my list of antisocial tech gags to implement, somewhere around Facebook un-un-tag. | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | haha. But even looking at the raw message I would have had no way of knowing that the person in the To: field didn't really get a copy. | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | I agree, that's why I sent the message to Allison and Melissa that said what I was about to do. | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | And why I just bounced you a copy of that. | 19:12 |
| nkinkade | Unless I had read the message you sent that came in after, and explaining things. | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | I sent it before the (DRY RUN) messages, but only to Melissa and Allison. | 19:13 |
| paulproteus | Since I thought they were the only two on development@. | 19:13 |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: slow google pings again | 21:20 |
| paulproteus | 84ms for me now | 21:21 |
| Bovinity | there it goes | 21:21 |
| Bovinity | ;) | 21:21 |
| paulproteus | I've changed nothing. | 21:21 |
| Bovinity | back up again | 21:21 |
| paulproteus | In fact, I'm doing nothing. (-: | 21:21 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Do you happen to know what criteria Google might use to tag certain page/work as being CC licensed? | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: ^^ | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | Is it totally fuzzy? | 22:58 |
| Bovinity | silly/serious answer.. rdf and/or linkbacks to cc.org? | 22:59 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Probably a link to a CC license. mlinksva would know best. | 22:59 |
| paulproteus | Likely. | 22:59 |
| paulproteus | But mlinksva will know what he and Google agreed on in 2004 or 2005. | 22:59 |
| paulproteus | RDF in a comment, I presume you mean. | 22:59 |
| Bovinity | yes, as opposed to rdfa | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | That's a possiblity, but I would imagine that few sites use that other than Flickr? | 23:01 |
| mlinksva | i don't know for certain | 23:01 |
| mlinksva | i think rdf/xml and/or link to licenses qualified by rel="license" | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | And linkbacks seem about useless unless there is a clear way to identify it with a particular part of the page. | 23:01 |
| mlinksva | but they haven't said absolutely | 23:01 |
| mlinksva | nkinkade: well that's what rdfa is supposed to help with :) but page level granularity is fairly useful, just not perfect | 23:02 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: Do you suspect that Google may be processing RDFa behind the scenes but just not advertising it yet¿ | 23:04 |
| nkinkade | ? | 23:04 |
| nkinkade | Seems it would be unwise of them *not* to be working on that. | 23:04 |
| paulproteus | They might be doing rel="license" and not calling it RDFa. | 23:09 |
| paulproteus | That seems likely to me. | 23:09 |
| mattl | they have one guy, who looks at everything on the internet and writes down the license on a bit of scrap paper. | 23:26 |
| mattl | i applied for the job, but i lack good penmanship. | 23:26 |
| paulproteus | Then I need not apply. | 23:30 |
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