| nkinkade | nathany: If I created new issues for tasks I've got, do you want to be nosy on them? | 00:14 |
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| nathany | sure | 00:15 |
| nkinkade | Of course, don't feel obligated, you'll see them in there, but just wanted to check if you felt strongly about it. | 00:16 |
| nathany | yeah, it'd be good... i can archive the emails really easily | 00:16 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Didn't you mention once the idea of cloning and then hosting the yui.yahooapis.com on one of our own servers? | 00:17 |
| nkinkade | I see my browser spending far too much time waiting on that domain, and I suspect other people do to. | 00:18 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 00:18 |
| paulproteus | Or we could mirror it on S3. | 00:18 |
| nkinkade | How feasible is that, would you say? | 00:18 |
| * paulproteus ducks | 00:18 | |
| paulproteus | It's super easy; they make it super easy and most YUI-using packages (including SemanticForms) make it easy. | 00:18 |
| nathany | note google also provides cdn hosting for yui so we could see if their service is faster | 00:19 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: nathany: Should I create a ticket for us to do that? | 00:20 |
| paulproteus | Yes. (-: | 00:21 |
| nkinkade | I'll create a ticket, as Nathan has left the room. | 00:21 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 00:21 |
| paulproteus | Trying the Google CDN is also sensible. | 00:21 |
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| Snaknicola | hi | 10:39 |
| Snaknicola | what's happen with unixirc ? | 10:41 |
| Snaknicola | any cc here ? | 10:44 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: did we ever get a jabber/xmpp chat room to work with pidgin/adium? | 16:47 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah, I had a chatroom up and running. It's still there. | 17:13 |
| nathany | but were we able to connect with clients/ | 17:13 |
| nkinkade | Asheesh, Alex and I were in it at one point. | 17:14 |
| nkinkade | conference.jabber.org room creativecommons | 17:14 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: can you attempt to join again? if i recall there was a problem with the room booting people? | 17:23 |
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| nathany | Bovinity: can you join creativecommons on conference.jabber.org | 17:24 |
| nathany | ? | 17:24 |
| Bovinity | GEE THX GUYS | 17:33 |
| nathany | uh, sorry? | 17:33 |
| Bovinity | ;) | 17:34 |
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| schumaml | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#What_is_a_derivative_work.3F - what exactly is the "print file" mentioned in the answer to this faq - the printed output? | 18:36 |
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| greg-g | schumaml: a printed document might be a better wording for that | 18:59 |
| greg-g | so, you can print it, and even though you are thus putting the work in a new medium (and some lawyers would argue that is a derivative) the CC suite explicitly lets you do that without violating the NoDerivatives clause. | 19:00 |
| schumaml | one could get the impressdion that ND has just been invented to be able to discourage its use :) | 19:04 |
| greg-g | well, ND does greatly reduce the amount of use a work gets. | 19:04 |
| greg-g | if I can't remix it, I probably won't use it for anything, personally. | 19:05 |
| schumaml | the reason for my question is the google soc logo, btw - by-nc-nd, and to me even using it scaled on a web page feels wrong | 19:09 |
| schumaml | scaled by the browser, that is | 19:09 |
| schumaml | so I wont be using it anywhere until they offer nice versions at a smaller scale. | 19:11 |
| greg-g | schumaml: I would suggest emailing them about that, then. | 19:19 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: nathany: Do either if you know whether libglib1.2 is needed on a6 for any reason? | 19:26 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i don't know specifically | 19:27 |
| nathany | why do you ask? | 19:27 |
| nkinkade | nathany: There are some "broken" packages on a6, and one of apt's suggested fixes is to remove that package and upgrade a few others. | 19:27 |
| nkinkade | If it was absolutely required by any other package, I don't believe apt would suggest to remove it, so I feel it's safe, but just wanted to check. | 19:28 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Possibly for matplotlib. | 19:29 |
| paulproteus | But basically if apt says it's not, then it's not. | 19:29 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Could you take a peek on a6 and run dist-upgrade and check the recommended solution? | 19:29 |
| nkinkade | Or full-upgrade. | 19:29 |
| paulproteus | aptitude dist-upgrade, not apt-get, right? | 19:30 |
| nkinkade | I'm using aptitude | 19:30 |
| nkinkade | I did "sudo aptitude full-ugprade" | 19:30 |
| nkinkade | I was tipped off as to a problem when I tried a normal upgrade and some packages were kept back | 19:30 |
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| paulproteus | Sure, seems okay to me. | 19:32 |
| paulproteus | I wonder why we need the sasl modules anyway. | 19:32 |
| paulproteus | Do we run Dovecot or something on this machine? | 19:32 |
| paulproteus | It's no big deal, I'm just curious. | 19:32 |
| nathany | is that where the jurisdiction imap archive lives? | 19:33 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I'm not aware that it's needed by anything ... at least not anything I've installed. | 19:33 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That's on a7. | 19:33 |
| nkinkade | And does in fact use Dovecot, but a diff. server. | 19:33 |
| * paulproteus shrugs. | 19:33 | |
| paulproteus | I give this my approval and pass the ball back to you. | 19:33 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Thanks. I'll just use apt's suggested fix and go from there. | 19:33 |
| nkinkade | Thanks for taking a look. | 19:34 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Could you let go of the package database. | 19:34 |
| nkinkade | ? | 19:34 |
| paulproteus | Done | 19:34 |
| nkinkade | :) | 19:34 |
| paulproteus | (sorry) | 19:34 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: are you in the midst of upgrading cc.net? | 19:59 |
| nathany | er, a9 | 19:59 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah. | 20:01 |
| nkinkade | Something is strange with Varnish. | 20:01 |
| nathany | something's strange with everything | 20:01 |
| nathany | https://creativecommons.net/ | 20:01 |
| nkinkade | Apache is on port 8080 and running, but Varnish is returning errors. | 20:01 |
| nathany | but we don't use varnish there, do we? | 20:01 |
| nathany | since we SSL most things (or does it just pass through) | 20:01 |
| paulproteus | Ping me if I ought to take a look. | 20:02 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: By all means, just in and look around. | 20:02 |
| nathany | oh jesus, it removed python2.4 on the upgrade? | 20:02 |
| nathany | fuck | 20:02 |
| nkinkade | Did that same thing happen on a6 then? | 20:03 |
| nathany | why would you think that? is a6 having problems? | 20:03 |
| nathany | (i'm rebuildout-ing cc.net) | 20:03 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I don't think that, I just figured that if ws removed on a9 then it may have been on a6 too. | 20:05 |
| nathany | maybe but if nothing uses it on a6 then it wouldn't matter | 20:05 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: It seems to be related to SSL, the problem. | 20:05 |
| nathany | btw, we'll require 2.4 on a5 and a7 | 20:06 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I'd rather do other things, which is why I request getting pinged. But I will log in and look around. | 20:07 |
| paulproteus | Apache port 8080 is serving up SSL it seems. | 20:07 |
| paulproteus | lynx https://creativecommons.net:8080/ | 20:08 |
| paulproteus | That works. | 20:08 |
| nathany | nkinkade: mysql doesn't seem to be up | 20:08 |
| nathany | https://creativecommons.net works too | 20:08 |
| paulproteus | I don't understand currently what is in need of analysis. | 20:08 |
| nathany | i don't see an ssl problem | 20:08 |
| paulproteus | That's good. | 20:08 |
| paulproteus | Feel free to use voice, nathany. | 20:08 |
| nkinkade | I'm not saying there is a problem with SSL, but that the reason Varnish can't get to Apache normally is that Apache is not handling the SSL correctly for each host. | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | http://zupport.creativecommons.org:8080 returns an SSL error, but clearly shouldn't. | 20:09 |
| paulproteus | Ah, sorry, wrong host; I was logged into a6 | 20:09 |
| * paulproteus goes to a9 | 20:09 | |
| nathany | ah, did we get a wildcard cert or independent ip for zupport? | 20:09 |
| paulproteus | /etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: Using expire_logs_days without log_bin crashes the server. See README.Debian.gz failed! | 20:10 |
| * paulproteus fixes mysql on a9 | 20:10 | |
| nathany | i thought we had two certs, one for cc.net, one for support.cc.org | 20:10 |
| paulproteus | There, it's up. | 20:10 |
| nathany | thanks | 20:10 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sorry, i misread the url you were looking at | 20:10 |
| nathany | i thought you were trying to use https | 20:11 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Thanks. What was the issue? | 20:11 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Will say in one sec | 20:11 |
| paulproteus | I installed etckeeper, btw. | 20:12 |
| nkinkade | nathany: So CC.net will be back up as soon as buildout finishes? | 20:12 |
| nathany | it is back up | 20:12 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. The redirect from http to https isn't working. | 20:13 |
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| nathany | so apache is apparently trying to ssl-ify all requests | 20:13 |
| nathany | btw, the status line when going to http://creativecommons.net:8080 says "Port 443" | 20:14 |
| nathany | that seems wrong | 20:14 |
| nathany | do Listen directives override each other? | 20:14 |
| nkinkade | Perhaps http->https not working is partially related to what paulproteus is doing. | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, The init script complains that if you use expire_logs_days, you need log_bin. | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | No. | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | I am changing nothing right now, nkinkade. | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | http://pastebin.com/m36eb2028 | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | That's all I have changed (and I committed it to the new etckeeper on a9). | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | I will now read the Apache configuration and change nothing. | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, If you can fix nathany's problem do so without asking me, by all means. | 20:16 |
| nathany | <VirtualHost *:8080 66.135.59.46:443> | 20:16 |
| nathany | ServerName creativecommons.net | 20:16 |
| nathany | ServerAlias www.creativecommons.net | 20:16 |
| nathany | ServerAdmin webmaster@creativecommons.org | 20:16 |
| nathany | SSLEngine On | 20:16 |
| nathany | that seems wrong | 20:16 |
| nathany | ? | 20:16 |
| nathany | (ssl engine on, saying this is a vhost for 8080) | 20:17 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That seems right to me. | 20:17 |
| nathany | i'm going to fix that | 20:17 |
| nathany | (or try) | 20:17 |
| nkinkade | In this version of Apache the <Virtualhost *> config was deprecated, but we weren't using it anyway. | 20:17 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i just fixed cc.net | 20:19 |
| nathany | the problem is that the virtual host was set to listen on BOTH 8080 and 4430 | 20:19 |
| nathany | 443 | 20:19 |
| nathany | and then the config told it to turn on ssl | 20:20 |
| nathany | (which is obviously wrong for 8080) | 20:20 |
| nathany | so i created a second config, 443.creativecommons.net | 20:20 |
| nathany | that does SSL | 20:20 |
| nathany | turned it off on the other one | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | nathany: That config was working before. | 20:20 |
| nathany | i believe you | 20:20 |
| nathany | it wasn't working now :) | 20:20 |
| paulproteus | FWIW, nathany, it looks like you made it in sites-enabled/; we should move the config file to sites-available/ and symlink it in with a2ensite. | 20:20 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, You'll take care of that? | 20:21 |
| nathany | correct | 20:21 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Sure. | 20:21 |
| nathany | i assume someone decided that the config we were using before was too vague or implicit somehow | 20:21 |
| nathany | (someone meaning upstream) | 20:21 |
| nathany | and when we did the apache upgrade, we got the "fixed" version | 20:22 |
| nathany | are you good to take care of support.cc.org? | 20:22 |
| nkinkade | nathany: support seems to be working fine. | 20:22 |
| nkinkade | using the same old config as before. | 20:23 |
| nathany | oh cool | 20:23 |
| nathany | weird | 20:23 |
| nathany | the error i got previously was mysqlq | 20:23 |
| nathany | related | 20:23 |
| nathany | ok, that's weird that it works on support.cc.org and not cc.net | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | I'm investigating why that is right now. | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | As far as I knew, a vhost could listen any number of port/ip combinations. | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | Which is how it was before. | 20:25 |
| nathany | right... i just assumed it was because of the SSLEngine On directive | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | The fact that the SSL part was inside the same vhost as 8080 wouldn't have really mattered because Apache wasn't configured to do SSL on port 8080 anyway. | 20:26 |
| nkinkade | But like you say, something may have changed for the new version, but I never saw anything about that in the release notes that apt hands out. | 20:26 |
| nathany | ok, we're going to get food... thanks for handling this | 20:26 |
| nathany | yeah, very very weird | 20:27 |
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| nathany | Bovinity: http://dinosaursfuckingrobots.com/ (inappropriate for any office but CC) | 21:42 |
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| Bovinity | nathany: http://www.pennyarcademerch.com/pat090011.html | 22:09 |
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| isforinsects | ... nathany no, that can fly at 1cc too | 22:24 |
| isforinsects | weird place half the time | 22:24 |
| nathany | isforinsects: i have no idea what you're talking about | 22:24 |
| paulproteus | 1cc is OLPC HQ | 22:25 |
| nathany | oh, right | 22:25 |
| nathany | nevermind :) | 22:25 |
| Bovinity | it also flies at a berkeley doctor's office | 22:25 |
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| Bovinity | nkinkade: the resulting redirect for http://sciencecommons.org/support/ has a trailing slash (https://support.creativecommons.org/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=22/) | 23:49 |
| Bovinity | lordy, our connection is slow right now | 23:49 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Because your initial URL has a slash too. | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | I guess I could turn it into a RewriteRule and avoid that. | 23:50 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: that shouldn't matter | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Try it without the slash. | 23:50 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: yes, it redirects properly without the slash | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | If you would rather the real URL has the slash like /support/ | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | Then I can change the redirect. | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | But then /support might not work at all. | 23:51 |
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