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| jgay | paulproteus: you going to the EFF birthday party tonight? | 16:21 |
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| greg-g | yay, cc-devel/cchost spam from SF | 16:28 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, Yay indeed. | 17:24 |
| paulproteus | jgay, Chances are about 50/50 for now. | 17:24 |
| paulproteus | A friend has a chorale concert tonight that I will go to before it, so I don't know if I'll have time with everything else I have to do. | 17:25 |
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| general | !cc | 17:43 |
| paulproteus | general, see the topic | 17:53 |
| paulproteus | nathany, I'm going to go into the little room and work on my screencast for a long long time. | 17:59 |
| nathany | ok | 18:00 |
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| Bovinity | nathany: re: cc0.. either a WP page under /about/licenses, or a static Zope page in /license/ | 18:31 |
| paulproteus | I've decided that I really love the sound of keystrokes when recording myself. | 18:31 |
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| greg-g | background: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1033549 | 18:41 |
| greg-g | and in the spirit of having a complete test suite of locations (not limited to one continent) I think I should travel to Europe. Are there any CC events that CC wants to send me to? | 18:42 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, Maybe it's just poorly seated in its MiniPCI slot? | 18:46 |
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| paulproteus | If you had told me this earlier, I could have picked up the spare minipci wifi card that sits at my parents' house. | 18:47 |
| greg-g | minipci, thanks for letting me know what it is called :) | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 18:48 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: could be poorly seated, I'll open it up later tonight to look. | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, It could also be failing, I suppose. | 18:49 |
| greg-g | I did have to remove it when I sent it in for screen replacement | 18:49 |
| paulproteus | Oh, okay. | 18:49 |
| greg-g | so, there isn't a trip to Europe in my future? Is that what you're saying? | 18:50 |
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| paulproteus | I'm not saying that; I'm not your boss, so I wouldn't know. (-: | 18:50 |
| greg-g | :) | 18:50 |
| Bovinity | greg-g: Outlook not so good. Ask again later. | 18:56 |
| paulproteus | Outlook not so good. Wait for Evolution. | 18:56 |
| greg-g | Bovinity: But... we surpassed our fundraising goal! | 18:57 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: even though this specific laptop isn't the best example (the no suspend thing, BIOS issue): system76 does keep doing the right thing for the customers. In response to that thread, they are sending me a spare wifi adapter. | 19:18 |
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| rejon1 | hunger takes over | 20:22 |
| rejon1 | the conversation | 20:22 |
| rejon1 | mlinksva nathany paulproteus currytime? | 20:23 |
| rejon1 | bovinity? | 20:23 |
| rejon1 | http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/blog/?em3106=217426_-1__0_~0_-1_5_2008_0_0&em3161=&em3281= | 20:28 |
| paulproteus | rejon1, I would do http://www.yelp.com/biz/rotee-express-san-francisco | 20:34 |
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| paulproteus | Hello Mr. Kink Aid! | 20:41 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Howdy. | 20:44 |
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| Steren | nkinkade: hi, could I have the write permission on the Semantic Media Wiki git repository ? I need it to create an acawiki branch, for BibTex export. | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | Steren: Sure. One minute. | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | Steren: You should already have write permission. | 21:36 |
| nkinkade | Which public key are you using? | 21:36 |
| Steren | nkinkade: could you remind me teh command to tell you that | 21:37 |
| nkinkade | Steren: In your ~/.ssh/ directory there should be some public keys ... *.pub | 21:37 |
| nkinkade | I can tell you which one is already configured. | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | Steren: it begins like this: AAAAB3NzaC1y | 21:38 |
| Steren | nkinkade: yeah I was thinking of that, but I would have expect a command to print it | 21:39 |
| Steren | well, ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEAxTrB9Y84ZG0o2+ULYdecZi14a2FcnsADC4nhqe1aorNNlHRdtmyB7+qcdPtPgu9hMCCAh7lMcQWwGy6lAxM/0rQj1SgfR9Qh+fEmDE/wpJu2XhcdPF/RsCSgMwUp26ArH5n3rfYhu860l9UkFhdcM2ONXQ9KAbrzYXgfl8dSlPMGtX+AqWvdPNdRhIKPgEAHRC9s5ONZcTv5yZozqvYe4Qq51jRYMWjWoAmb135sLop2rv3cdEIwx5kbKs3APgcPkLRDtWKeqkJjFCIT9AYH+TnBA5gOdkDOCDIRYUSTCjm8tUL99dQQgKtxOKsSDoIQnvx+fH6FC3g10dUuchKKWw== steren@steren-portable | 21:39 |
| nkinkade | Steren: that appears to be the right one. | 21:39 |
| nkinkade | How are you accessing the git repository? | 21:39 |
| Steren | via git@... | 21:40 |
| Steren | Let's try again | 21:40 |
| nkinkade | That seems right. | 21:40 |
| Steren | oh and as I got you, coudl you set up a git repo called "BibtexImport" | 21:40 |
| Steren | it's for the BibtexImport extension i'm currently writting | 21:40 |
| nkinkade | Sure. | 21:41 |
| Steren | paulproteus/nkinkade : oh maybe I can't push because the branch doesn't exist on the server, that could be the reason ? | 21:44 |
| paulproteus | Steren, No, that's not a likely reason. | 21:45 |
| paulproteus | What problem are you having? | 21:45 |
| Steren | (calling my git expert and adviser :) ) | 21:45 |
| Steren | strangely, I can't push my current work on a local branch to a new branch on the server | 21:45 |
| paulproteus | What does "git remote -v" say? | 21:45 |
| Steren | origingit@code.creativecommons.org:semanticmediawiki | 21:46 |
| paulproteus | Okay, and what is your git push command line? | 21:46 |
| Steren | oh that's why | 21:46 |
| paulproteus | ...? | 21:46 |
| Steren | I shouldn't tell him that I want the remote to be a branch ? | 21:46 |
| Steren | paulproteus: my push command : git push origin bibtex:bibtex | 21:47 |
| paulproteus | I have no idea what you're saying. Don't try to guess what I want you to do; I find that very confusing. | 21:47 |
| paulproteus | Okay, that's sensible. | 21:47 |
| paulproteus | But you get permission denied? | 21:47 |
| paulproteus | Let's see. | 21:47 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Are you sure you pushed your modified gitosis-admin repo? | 21:47 |
| Steren | paulproteus: hen I verbose, I get : error: dst refspec bibtex does not match any existing ref on the remote and does not start with refs/. | 21:47 |
| paulproteus | Steren, $ git --version | 21:48 |
| Steren | paulproteus: git version 1.5.4.3 | 21:48 |
| paulproteus | That's fairly old. Can you upgrade easily? | 21:49 |
| paulproteus | I am happy to help you upgrade; I want you to be on 1.5.6 or above. | 21:49 |
| paulproteus | There are a lot of UI warts in older versions of git that just need to die. | 21:50 |
| Steren | if it's required, yes I can upgrade | 21:50 |
| Steren | is there any .deb somewhere that you know ? | 21:50 |
| paulproteus | What version of Debian or Ubuntu are you running? | 21:50 |
| Steren | Ubuntu Hardy, planning to go on Intrepid very soon | 21:51 |
| paulproteus | i386 or amd64? | 21:51 |
| Steren | i386 | 21:51 |
| paulproteus | I can build you some debs right now, though it will take ca. 15m probably. | 21:51 |
| Steren | that would be great, but if it's easy to compile I can do it | 21:52 |
| paulproteus | Oh, you could just add deb-src lines from Intrepid to your sources.list and then do "apt-src -bi install git-core". | 21:52 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: pushed which modified gitosis-admin? | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | That would take the source Debian packages for git-core from Intrepid and build and install it on your system. | 21:53 |
| nkinkade | I just now pushed some changes. | 21:53 |
| Steren | yeah I can do that | 21:53 |
| nkinkade | But I got an error that I hadn't seen before, or maybe I simply forgot how to add a repo. | 21:53 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Go on...? | 21:53 |
| nkinkade | It was complaining about not finding the repo in /git/repositories/, but I seem to recall that in the past it would create an empty one for me. | 21:54 |
| nkinkade | I could be mistaken. | 21:54 |
| paulproteus | Steren, We'll see whose build finishes first. (-; | 21:54 |
| nkinkade | Or maybe it's because I defined a [repo], which I hadn't done in the past. | 21:54 |
| nkinkade | In any case, they are just warnings. | 21:55 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I agree with your analysis. | 21:55 |
| paulproteus | Steren, It will fail for you to build the Intrepid git-core. One sec. | 22:02 |
| nkinkade | Steren: http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit?p=bibteximport.git;a=summary | 22:05 |
| Steren | nkinkade: great, thanks | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | Steren: There's junk README file in there that you can just remove. | 22:11 |
| paulproteus | Wow, generating the git documentation takes 5x as long as compiling it. | 22:11 |
| * paulproteus 's git compile is running its self tests before it can be packaged up for Steren | 22:11 | |
| Steren | nkinkade: ok I successfully pushed to this repository my first files of the Bibtex Import extension | 22:12 |
| Bovinity | i feel like i'm missing out | 22:16 |
| Bovinity | i've never had git docs build before | 22:16 |
| Bovinity | google is my git documentation. | 22:16 |
| Steren | paulproteus: I'm now using git version 1.5.6.3 (downloaded the Intrepid packages) | 22:27 |
| Steren | paulproteus: waw it works now, unbelievable | 22:27 |
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| paulproteus | Steren, Awesome (-: | 22:30 |
| Steren | paulproteus: well thanks a lot, i would never have suspect my git version to be the cause | 22:30 |
| paulproteus | Steren, Yes. If it's not 1.5.6 or above, just run away. | 22:31 |
| paulproteus | Steren, I think that if you try to apt-get update ;apt-get upgrade, you'll get git 1.6.0 from the CC repo. | 22:35 |
| paulproteus | As a present for your patience. | 22:35 |
| Steren | paulproteus: well, there is nothing to upgrade :/ | 22:40 |
| paulproteus | Oops, I just did "rm *" by accident. | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | Okay, so those git packages are gone. (-: | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | ttyl... | 22:43 |
| Steren | :) well nevermind, it's working fine now, thanks again | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Where is that ionicer tool you made? | 22:55 |
| nkinkade | I forgot the details, but think I'd like to use it somewhere else. | 22:56 |
| paulproteus | Maybe I should put in the CC repository or something. | 22:57 |
| paulproteus | I wanted it on rose. | 22:57 |
| paulproteus | Really it should be part of the ionice package. | 22:57 |
| nkinkade | I agree. | 22:57 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, The blog post has more info, I believe, except that the git URL it says to clone is a lie. | 22:57 |
| nkinkade | It's a shame that a regular user can't regulate their own processes, at least. | 22:57 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Ah. That's it ... CC Labs blog. I'll check there. | 22:58 |
| paulproteus | It's also the top Google hit for "ionicer"! | 22:58 |
| paulproteus | Wow, I can't believe that was >1mo ago. | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | I searched my mail for ionicer, but wasn't astute enough to search Google for it. :-) | 22:59 |
| paulproteus | Isn't Google your email! | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | It is, but when I search it only searches the content of mails. | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 23:01 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: You've got a tiny typo on that blog post: "a script which does tw things" | 23:06 |
| nkinkade | Or maybe I'm just not creative enough. | 23:06 |
| paulproteus | Would you be willing to fix it for me? | 23:06 |
| paulproteus | You and your non-broken Fx. | 23:06 |
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| nkinkade | Yeah, I'll fix it. Have you tried disabling other addons? | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | The thing seemed to work fine for me with Epiphany, but just not Firefox, then I disabled Greasemonkey and Platypus and it started working fine. | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | I didn't investigate any further than that, but clearly there is something else going on and my "fix" was somewhat coincidental. | 23:09 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Interesting, and sadly, the problem seems to have cropped up again for me again. | 23:10 |
| nkinkade | So now I've got a motivation to seek out the cause. | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | Maybe we should report it as a WordPress bug. | 23:11 |
| paulproteus | But try a fresh profile. | 23:11 |
| nkinkade | Did using a fresh profile work for you? | 23:11 |
| paulproteus | Haven't tried it yet. | 23:13 |
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| ehird | Is it possible to blanket-license a site as a Creative Commons license by saying so on its front page, or does every document need to be tagged? | 23:16 |
| paulproteus | ehird, Well, the note on the front page will do legal-wise, but CC search engines like Google's and Yahoo's require every page be marked. | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | So it's a matter of ensuring findability. | 23:17 |
| ehird | That's not too important to me (the works won't be very useful if you start from the perspective of their license rather than their topic) | 23:18 |
| ehird | So if a front-page note will do legally, that's perfect. Thanks :) | 23:18 |
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| paulproteus | ehird, Keep in mind I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. | 23:19 |
| nkinkade | ehird: It hasn't anything to do with the legality of it, and everything to do with the clarity of it. | 23:19 |
| ehird | paulproteus: of course :-) nkinkade: Mm, indeed. For prominent pages (e.g. ones getting a lot of traffic) I might put a separate button on them. | 23:19 |
| paulproteus | Right, what I meant is it doesn't matter how you tell people that they're allowed to do something so long as you do tell them that. | 23:19 |
| nkinkade | As the copyright holder of a work, you are free to license and mark it as you please, but licensing it under a CC license, but not adequately marking it so that others know about it isn't all that useful, most likely. | 23:19 |
| ehird | True. | 23:20 |
| ehird | It's just that the site is mostly static and has a large number of pages, so manually adding a link to the license to each one could get a bit annoying. | 23:20 |
| nkinkade | ehird: Adding some small text in the sidebar or footer is usually a good idea. Take a look at the footer of http://creativecommons.org | 23:20 |
| ehird | Yes, true. | 23:20 |
| nkinkade | ehird: Ah, I see. | 23:20 |
| nkinkade | No common footer. | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | Well, that cold be a major pain. :-) | 23:21 |
| ehird | I could just script adding it to all the pages, so it's not too big of a problem. | 23:21 |
| ehird | Thanks anyway :) | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | ehird: perl -pi is your friend. | 23:22 |
| ehird | mm | 23:22 |
| nkinkade | Or sed -i, if you hate perl. | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | Or /usr/bin/replace if you just want fixed strings. | 23:23 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Strangely, disabling the Ubuntu fixes addon seems to have temporarily cured the problem, but I feel sure that it's triggering some other behavior that coincidentally fixes the problem for a while. | 23:24 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, le sigh. | 23:24 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, There, finally, that git:// URL listed in the gitweb is not a lie. | 23:24 |
| nkinkade | I just re-enabled the Ubuntu addon and it still works. | 23:26 |
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