| Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: nkinkade: paulproteus: Who has more comments they'd like to make about the cc.org homepage? | 00:44 |
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| paulproteus | Who's on second. | 00:58 |
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| Bovinity | hmm, redhat use lyceum for their blog | 01:00 |
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| paulproteus | If it's any consolation, I'm working on Lyceum -> WP MU conversion scripts. | 01:07 |
| paulproteus | AKA, even I'm jumping off that ship. | 01:07 |
| Bovinity | has the ship sunk? | 01:08 |
| paulproteus | Basically, yes. | 01:08 |
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| skyfaller | hey everyone, what are some good CC-friendly record labels, aside from Magnatune? | 14:41 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: I'm upgrading Wordpress to 2.7. I noticed that it now has an upgrade tool that can be used right through the admin interface. | 17:39 |
| greg-g | skyfaller: http://www.positronrecords.com/ | 17:39 |
| nkinkade | I'm wondering if now would be a good time to stop upgrading via svn merges, and perhaps even move this thing to git. | 17:40 |
| K`Tetch | 2.7's ok | 17:41 |
| K`Tetch | the new post interface goes back to 2.5 layout | 17:42 |
| nkinkade | K`Tetch: The demo video made it look pretty nice. | 17:42 |
| K`Tetch | the post management system is a little harder to deal with, since there's no direct 'preview' link | 17:42 |
| K`Tetch | one of my sites upgraded 36 hours ago | 17:42 |
| K`Tetch | now, my system struggles a bit | 17:42 |
| nkinkade | K`Tetch: Struggles in what way? | 17:43 |
| K`Tetch | (1ghz athlon running opera 9) | 17:43 |
| nkinkade | You mean your local system struggles? | 17:43 |
| K`Tetch | yes | 17:43 |
| nkinkade | Like my local system struggle with Gmail? | 17:43 |
| K`Tetch | i wouldn't know about that | 17:43 |
| nkinkade | I would. :-) | 17:43 |
| K`Tetch | its just a lot more 'widgetyness' | 17:43 |
| K`Tetch | ajax or something | 17:44 |
| nkinkade | Well, I guess there's no turning back. For better or worse we've got to keep installing new versions. | 17:44 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: yeah, do you think the upgrade tool will interfere with our svn setup? i'm inclined to think it will | 17:45 |
| nkinkade | I'm not sure. What I'd like to do at this point is to migrate this thing to git. | 17:45 |
| nkinkade | Or at the very least run from an svn checkout so that upgrades are as easy as svn switch. | 17:46 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: With git-svn is there any good reason you can think of not to migrate ccwordpress to git? Or should we just leave things started in subversion in subversion. | 17:47 |
| paulproteus | I'm all for git on this. | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Would you be willing to setup a git-svn nightly job like the others? | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | (of the wordpress repo, that is) | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | I already have one running on rose, even. | 17:48 |
| * paulproteus nods | 17:48 | |
| nkinkade | Nathan may have some objections, I don't know. | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Check out wp-admin on staging. | 17:57 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: woah | 17:58 |
| nkinkade | Radical refactorization of that interface, right? | 17:59 |
| Bovinity | maybe not refactor, but definitely rearrangement | 17:59 |
| Bovinity | this might need some staff re-training | 18:00 |
| nkinkade | That's why you're there. ;-) | 18:00 |
| nkinkade | (jk) | 18:00 |
| Bovinity | that's why i'm re-training myself now :P | 18:00 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: How do you get a very thin black border around a flag icon? Take a look at http://staging.creativecommons.org/international/ | 18:36 |
| nkinkade | At the very bottom Georgia and Singapore are ugly. | 18:36 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: border: 1px solid #000; | 18:36 |
| nkinkade | Ah, that's the problem. | 18:37 |
| Bovinity | for some reason thsoe flags appear to have the border in the image.... | 18:37 |
| nkinkade | I added a 1px border to image. | 18:37 |
| Bovinity | ah, heh | 18:37 |
| nkinkade | They do. I'll fix that now. | 18:37 |
| nkinkade | I was like, that is one wide pixel! | 18:37 |
| nkinkade | Much better now. | 18:41 |
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| paulproteus | <nkinkade> [13:39:30] Bovinity: How do you get a very thin black border around a flag icon? | 19:45 |
| Bovinity | hmm? | 19:45 |
| paulproteus | Sounds like a set-up for a joke. | 19:45 |
| * paulproteus ponders punch-lines | 19:45 | |
| Bovinity | three men walk into a bar | 19:46 |
| Bovinity | ... | 19:46 |
| paulproteus | A rabbi, a priest, and a coca-cola salesman walk into a bar. | 19:46 |
| paulproteus | The bartenders says, "What is this, a joke?" | 19:46 |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: "diveintomarx.org"? lol | 20:22 |
| Bovinity | in soviet russia, python tabs you! | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | I still really like breaktheinter.net. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | I was going to use it for a website promoting ISPs that are against Net Neutrality. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | It'd be like "We're so proud that we hate the Internet!" site listing all of them. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | "On an unrelated note, you should register diveintomarx.org as a redirect to this site. I find my finger slipping for some reason" <http://diveintomark.org/archives/2007/10/26/stuck-in-lax> | 20:28 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, ping re: my UML idea | 20:44 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: It seems like overkill. | 20:46 |
| nkinkade | I'm not necessarily opposed to it, just wondering what advantage it brings over just ionicing and nicing your cron jobs as they are. | 20:47 |
| paulproteus | That's fair. | 20:47 |
| paulproteus | I'll try just nicing and ionicing. | 20:47 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, How about we just nice and ionice the crond itself? | 20:48 |
| paulproteus | Then all cron jobs are ioniced and niced? | 20:48 |
| nkinkade | If you have more scripts and things that need running and ionicing and nicing everything is getting out of control, then maybe a UML environment would be best. | 20:48 |
| * paulproteus shrugs | 20:48 | |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I thought we were already doing that, at least on one or two servers. | 20:49 |
| paulproteus | Well I should inherit that then. | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | Now I can't remember what. | 20:49 |
| paulproteus | I'll see about a6. | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I didn't set it up on a6. | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | Let me check a5. | 20:49 |
| paulproteus | Yes on a6. | 20:49 |
| paulproteus | ioniced. | 20:49 |
| paulproteus | ... you do this way differently than I do. | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: And on a5 as well. | 20:49 |
| paulproteus | I just add one line to top of the init script that ionices the init script itself. | 20:50 |
| paulproteus | You ionice each subprocese explicitly. | 20:50 |
| nkinkade | I must have done that on all the servers (your idea, and a good one). | 20:50 |
| paulproteus | BTW, this is one reason I like the idea of git for /etc. | 20:50 |
| paulproteus | git diff | (ssh server ; git apply) | 20:50 |
| paulproteus | But there should be better infrastructure for that than just etckeeper, but anyway let's think about that later. | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | So then I'm not sure why your scripts were still killing the machine. | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | Maybe it was purely CPU. | 20:51 |
| paulproteus | Yeah. Let's nice the crond init script? | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | It was oscillating between 100% and something near it. | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | That sounds good. | 20:51 |
| paulproteus | Sure, but keep in mind a niced process can use 100% too. | 20:51 |
| paulproteus | Just so long as no one else needs it. | 20:52 |
| paulproteus | But that niceness should be enough to stop "killing" the machine. | 20:52 |
| nkinkade | Someone needed it last night a 4:45AM EST. :-) | 20:52 |
| paulproteus | Hey, I was asleep then! | 20:52 |
| paulproteus | Unlike the night before. | 20:52 |
| paulproteus | So you'll add the nice, or should I? | 20:54 |
| * paulproteus assumes you will and carries on with other things | 20:55 | |
| nkinkade | Yes, I was asleep too. That's the point. | 21:08 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, You added the nice? | 22:30 |
| paulproteus | nathany, FINALLY someone takes advantage of the size of uSD cards: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/b308/?cpg=wnrss | 22:31 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Yes. | 22:31 |
| * paulproteus hopes that's re: the uSD cards link too | 22:31 | |
| nathany | LOL | 22:31 |
| nkinkade | There was also a nice bit of software developed for the Openmoko that was announced today: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenVibe | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | There was a funny accompanying thread that sprung up on the Openmoko community list: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1662300 | 22:34 |
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| paulproteus | I saw the subject lines but hadn't read the thread yet. | 22:38 |
| paulproteus | Ooh, I do like the application for phone sex. | 22:39 |
| * paulproteus is just citing messages in the thread... | 22:39 | |
| nathany | o.m.g. | 22:39 |
| paulproteus | ...if this app does not exist on the iPhone store, I will have to sign the NDA and learn Objective C and make it. | 22:40 |
| nathany | lol | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | One thing I like about mail lists and IRC channels with lots of foreign people is that, though their English is frequently really good, their slight misuse of it cracks me up. | 22:40 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, YES! | 22:41 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 22:41 |
| nkinkade | The other day on the #mediawiki channel some guy some in and was cracking me up. | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | BetaTesting | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | volunteers are sought for betatest | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenVibe | 22:42 |
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| nkinkade | At one point he say he's bored, then he says "I think gonna huggle people." Cracked me up. | 22:43 |
| paulproteus | I have no idea what that means. | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | I know, I saw that. haha. | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | I had no idea either, but people responded. | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | And it was good for a laugh. | 22:43 |
| paulproteus | Like so much about the MediaWiki project. | 22:44 |
| nkinkade | It may be that I'm going to have to revert to the old standard HTML interface for Gmail and Apps. It seems faster to me, but less interesting. | 22:44 |
| paulproteus | At that rate you might as well use alpine. | 22:45 |
| nkinkade | And it doesn't trash my Rhythmbox Internet radio sessions. | 22:45 |
| nkinkade | I was just thinking that same thing. | 22:45 |
| nkinkade | I may install it shortly. | 22:45 |
| paulproteus | Do you have, like, 129 kbps of bandwidth? | 22:45 |
| paulproteus | http://javatarian.wordpress.com/2008/02/01/configuring-alpine-with-gmail/ | 22:45 |
| nkinkade | I've got a fast Internet connection ... reasonably fast. | 22:45 |
| paulproteus | That passes a sanity-check. | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | At least as fast as the SF office. | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | And yet, when I click on a label in Google Apps, invariably the radio starts skipping and eventually goes away. | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | I have a hard time believing that it's a bandwidth issue. | 22:46 |
| Bovinity | yay, Inkscape solved my Arabic problem. | 22:47 |
| paulproteus | That sounds racist and vaguely xenophobic. | 22:48 |
| paulproteus | (with apologies to nathany) | 22:48 |
| Bovinity | yay, Inkscape solved my Arabian problem. | 22:48 |
| nathany | :) | 22:48 |
| paulproteus | nathany, BTW I recommend colors in alpine. | 22:49 |
| paulproteus | http://recycledspace.com/2007/12/22/alpine-messaging-system-the-alternative-to-pine-gmail-included/ emphasizes good options too. | 22:49 |
| nkinkade | I may hold off on the alpine thing. I suspect it would require a good deal of setup and tweaking to get it where I like it. | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | And I just opened this Internet radio site in a Firefox window with the mplayer plugin an I don't seem to be getting any skips when Gmail lags like I was getting with Rythmbox. | 23:00 |
| paulproteus | Okay. | 23:02 |
| paulproteus | You can try alpine in combination with standard Gmail just fine, anyway. | 23:02 |
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| paulproteus | Is it *really* cold, or am I just sick? | 23:57 |
| Bovinity | it's really cold | 23:58 |
| paulproteus | That's a "relief." | 23:58 |
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