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paulproteus | Morning, nkinkade. | 15:45 |
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nkinkade | Hi, paulproteus. | 15:47 |
paulproteus | I haven't slept, so I might be a little more incoherent than usual today. | 15:52 |
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greg-g | we don't translate back into english ported licenses? | 16:53 |
greg-g | nkinkade: ^ | 16:53 |
greg-g | or, do we have english versions of the legalcode for ported licenses? | 16:54 |
nkinkade | greg-g: Not that I'm aware of. | 16:54 |
greg-g | ok | 16:54 |
nkinkade | greg-g: The closest thing to that would be the license drafts that were converted to English for the sake of Catharina. | 16:54 |
nkinkade | Those can be found on each jurisdictions /international page. | 16:54 |
greg-g | not found: http://creativecommons.at/international | 16:55 |
nkinkade | greg-g: That sould be http://creativecommons.org/international/at/ | 17:13 |
greg-g | ahhhhhh :) | 17:15 |
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Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: know anything about who made the image on http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Birthday_Party_2008 ? | 19:05 |
m3cr3d1s | no man | 19:05 |
m3cr3d1s | was wonderign what that was | 19:05 |
Bovinity | hmm, michelle uploaded it at least | 19:07 |
m3cr3d1s | fair enough | 19:12 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Where is the database for Pootle? | 19:21 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, It's documented in teamspace.creativecommons.org/Pootle | 19:22 |
paulproteus | But the answer is $HOME/pootle/Pootle/stats.db I think. | 19:22 |
paulproteus | (Off the top of my head) | 19:22 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Ah. I thought it was a MySQL things. | 19:22 |
paulproteus | Nope, SQLite "for now" | 19:23 |
nkinkade | Is there a client I can use to browse it? | 19:23 |
paulproteus | I sometimes use KNoda. | 19:23 |
paulproteus | You could /usr/bin/sqlite3. | 19:23 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: I'm concerned that there may have been a slight issue with the migration of users. | 19:23 |
paulproteus | Tell me more. | 19:23 |
nkinkade | The CC Jordan lead wasn't a member of any projects, so he couldn't admin anything. | 19:24 |
nkinkade | I set this for him in his profile and it works now. | 19:24 |
paulproteus | Kay... | 19:24 |
nkinkade | He may have de-selected it himself by accident. | 19:24 |
nkinkade | But it also occurs to me that it'd be worth checking to make sure that all the admin users have the cc_org project selected. | 19:24 |
nkinkade | If not, then surely something went wrong with the migration. | 19:25 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: I just looked, and it would appear that very few people actually are associated with any projects. | 19:31 |
paulproteus | That sounds tragic. | 19:31 |
paulproteus | I wonder why I didn't get mroe complaints. | 19:31 |
paulproteus | I should fix that. | 19:31 |
paulproteus | I will later today. | 19:31 |
nkinkade | 56 our of 528 users. | 19:32 |
nkinkade | I'll send an email as a reminder and to document it. | 19:33 |
paulproteus | Awesome. | 19:33 |
paulproteus | I'll try to fix it today, but it'll probably be way later in the day. | 19:33 |
nkinkade | No problem. It's not a huge deal, and for those that it's a real problem we'll be hearing from them. | 19:35 |
m3cr3d1s | Bovinity: nkinkade can you add http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/11475 to http://support.creativecommons.org/videos/ | 19:54 |
m3cr3d1s | thanks | 19:54 |
nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: Yeah. I'll add that. | 19:55 |
m3cr3d1s | great | 19:55 |
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nkinkade | Wait, m3cr3d1s, what part of that do you want at /videos? | 20:14 |
m3cr3d1s | just the video? | 20:14 |
nkinkade | You mean this URL: http://creativecommons.org/media-that-matters-video | 20:15 |
nkinkade | ? | 20:15 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah | 20:15 |
m3cr3d1s | sorry | 20:15 |
m3cr3d1s | that was the most convenient URL | 20:15 |
greg-g | m3cr3d1s: re twitter: no. | 20:20 |
m3cr3d1s | greg-g: thanks | 20:22 |
m3cr3d1s | :) | 20:22 |
greg-g | :) | 20:28 |
nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: Does this work for you? http://support.creativecommons.org/videos/ | 20:29 |
m3cr3d1s | looks good, though the dimensions seem a little off | 20:31 |
nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: A little wide? | 20:31 |
nkinkade | I thought so to, but that was the embed code that blip.tv gave me. I guess I could tweak it. | 20:32 |
m3cr3d1s | indeed | 20:32 |
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m3cr3d1s | need to fix that | 20:37 |
m3cr3d1s | was hacking around with the player | 20:37 |
nathany | m3cr3d1s: can you ping me when you upload photos from friday so i can add a link to the wiki? | 20:42 |
m3cr3d1s | nathany: sure thing will work on them now | 20:45 |
greg-g | nathany: you will be interested in the first item of my blog post: http://ur1.ca/08yf | 20:51 |
Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: are we going to start having a lot of videos and videos with their own pages? | 20:51 |
nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: It's better now. I wonder why the embed code that blip.tv gave was so wildly off. | 20:51 |
nkinkade | I was wondering about that. Pretty soon the /videos page is going to get unwieldy. | 20:52 |
Bovinity | also having a ton of /next-great-video pages is going to be noisy, organisation wise | 20:52 |
nkinkade | Maybe we could have a single page with links and brief descriptions of the videos that link to individual pages with the videos. | 20:52 |
Bovinity | that's what i was attempting to mold /about/videos into, it's not entirely there yet | 20:53 |
nkinkade | Another option would be to have a page describing each video that just links to blip.tv. | 20:53 |
Bovinity | also, /about/videos | 20:53 |
nkinkade | If we want to avoid a tangle of /next-great-video pages. | 20:54 |
Bovinity | it links to blip.tv for each video, with a description | 20:54 |
nkinkade | Maybe we could include a small snapshot of the initial video image next to each description. | 20:54 |
m3cr3d1s | Bovinity: yeah, I was starting to worry about this | 20:54 |
nkinkade | The same frame that shows be default before a video is played. | 20:54 |
Bovinity | what i like about the individual video pages is all the CC licensing info and other content | 20:55 |
m3cr3d1s | Bovinity: yeah, that's crucial | 20:55 |
m3cr3d1s | WP allows for page categorization | 20:55 |
Bovinity | it does? is this new? | 20:55 |
m3cr3d1s | hrm | 20:55 |
m3cr3d1s | it won't do stuff like MW | 20:55 |
m3cr3d1s | where you have sub pages | 20:55 |
Bovinity | we do sub pages already | 20:56 |
m3cr3d1s | like Legal Concepts is a sub page of About | 20:56 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah, thats what I meant | 20:56 |
nkinkade | Anything to be able to view a list of all of them in once place would be good. | 20:56 |
m3cr3d1s | nkinkade: all the attribution & etc of the pages? | 20:56 |
m3cr3d1s | or just the titles | 20:56 |
Bovinity | titles from a page linked to a detail page is fine, if we keep it consistent | 20:56 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah | 20:57 |
m3cr3d1s | so I think its important to have videos have their own pages | 20:57 |
m3cr3d1s | preferably in wordpress | 20:57 |
Bovinity | can we retroactively do that to the other videos? | 20:57 |
m3cr3d1s | Bovinity: thats fine, though it would be nice to setup redirects | 20:57 |
m3cr3d1s | or rather just make sure there are no 404s | 20:57 |
nkinkade | I've wanted to get the videos out of Drupal anyway. | 20:57 |
Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: naturally | 20:58 |
Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: have you seen creativecommons.conf? ;P | 20:58 |
m3cr3d1s | I don't believe so | 20:58 |
nkinkade | It would be nice if the support stuff was only CiviCRM and the store. | 20:58 |
Bovinity | yes, videos should not be on support any more | 20:58 |
nkinkade | I can take it upon myself to migrate all of them and setup of the proper redirects for the existing ones if either of you would like to create sample video page that I can use as a template. | 20:59 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: m3cr3d1s ^^ | 20:59 |
Bovinity | /about/videos is currently the hub, whcih links videos to their blips.. i think i set asharedculture to link to its page. | 20:59 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah I mean the template that I used for asharedculture and mtm-video | 20:59 |
m3cr3d1s | is basically ideal | 21:00 |
m3cr3d1s | if that makes sense? | 21:00 |
Bovinity | yeah | 21:00 |
Bovinity | it's unfortunate that cc.org/videos/ is the root for the old video creative commoner interviews. which kinda screws things up. | 21:01 |
m3cr3d1s | hrm | 21:01 |
m3cr3d1s | why? | 21:01 |
m3cr3d1s | oh | 21:01 |
Bovinity | oh, i'm mistaken, it's just a 404 | 21:01 |
m3cr3d1s | not bad | 21:01 |
m3cr3d1s | better than mirrors.cc | 21:01 |
Bovinity | so we could root everything in /videos/ | 21:02 |
paulproteus | Support the Christian Coalition. | 21:02 |
m3cr3d1s | that'd be great | 21:02 |
Bovinity | with links from /about/ just for extra visibility | 21:02 |
m3cr3d1s | yep | 21:02 |
m3cr3d1s | or rather which /about/ links to, if I understand it? | 21:02 |
Bovinity | yeah | 21:02 |
m3cr3d1s | k | 21:02 |
Bovinity | we'd have a /videos/ landing page too | 21:03 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: m3cr3d1s: I'll get that going tomorrow. | 21:03 |
nkinkade | Sound good? | 21:03 |
Bovinity | yup | 21:03 |
m3cr3d1s | sure thing | 21:04 |
m3cr3d1s | sorry for making such a mess for you to clean up | 21:04 |
m3cr3d1s | the wiki would be where I try to put most of this | 21:04 |
nkinkade | Dammit m3cr3d1s! | 21:04 |
nkinkade | ;-) | 21:04 |
m3cr3d1s | but ... not totally friendly to the HTML I was doing | 21:04 |
m3cr3d1s | haha | 21:04 |
Bovinity | keeping it on WP saves user confusion - for the pretty pictures | 21:05 |
m3cr3d1s | aight back to tech summit photos | 21:05 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah | 21:05 |
nkinkade | But having /videos on support has been bugging me anyway, so this is just a juncture to take care of it once and for all, and the long we wait the more rewrite rules we are going to need. | 21:05 |
m3cr3d1s | indeed | 21:05 |
Bovinity | yep | 21:05 |
m3cr3d1s | and rewrite rules make baby jesus cry | 21:05 |
m3cr3d1s | so | 21:05 |
Bovinity | baby jesus needs a xanax whenever he reads our conf file. | 21:06 |
m3cr3d1s | hahah | 21:06 |
nkinkade | I often feel the need for one too. | 21:06 |
nkinkade | (when I read the conf file, that is!) | 21:06 |
nkinkade | :-) | 21:06 |
m3cr3d1s | ok back to photos | 21:06 |
m3cr3d1s | lates | 21:06 |
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nathany | greg-g: awesome! re-blog @ cc.org? | 21:07 |
nkinkade | nathany: Are you or someone else going to send out a recap of the Tech Summit, or post some notes, videos, etc.? Or maybe it's there and I didn't see it! | 21:09 |
nathany | nkinkade: so frank psuedo-live-blogged it @ labs | 21:09 |
* paulproteus read those | 21:09 | |
nathany | we'll have video and audio at some point -- probably after the first of the year by the time we get the DVD/CD from MIT, rip, transcode and upload | 21:10 |
Bovinity | it's pseudo-just like being there | 21:10 |
nathany | i'll probably do a follow-up blog post once i have everyone's slides online | 21:10 |
nathany | (sending out reminders to speakers now) | 21:10 |
nkinkade | Cool. Thanks. | 21:11 |
m3cr3d1s | photos will be done shortly | 21:11 |
m3cr3d1s | but my upload pipe is crippled | 21:11 |
* m3cr3d1s reminds himself to look into Fios this week | 21:11 | |
paulproteus | By all those Gentoo ISOs you're bittorrenting. | 21:11 |
paulproteus | One thing I loved about being at a .edu was the upload speeds. | 21:11 |
nathany | m3cr3d1s: FIOS is the only interweb thing i miss about indiana | 21:12 |
paulproteus | nathany, You can get muni fiber here, actually. | 21:12 |
nathany | huh? | 21:12 |
nathany | really? | 21:12 |
nathany | me want that | 21:12 |
paulproteus | I haven't checked the pricing, and I think you have to bring your own IP address. | 21:12 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah | 21:12 |
nathany | oh, that sounds considerably less appealing | 21:13 |
m3cr3d1s | paulproteus: uploading uncompressed version of Media That Matters video to LegalTorrents, actually | 21:13 |
nathany | paulproteus: link to muni fiber info ? | 21:13 |
m3cr3d1s | somehow getting 119kbs up which is about double usual rates | 21:13 |
paulproteus | http://www.ipnetworksinc.com/ | 21:13 |
greg-g | nathany: should probably wait until it is more than just gabriel's personal git repo? :) | 21:13 |
paulproteus | I tried calling them once about pricing but I got voicemail. | 21:14 |
nathany | greg-g: i suppose :) | 21:14 |
nathany | greg-g: is his personal repo publicly available? I'm curious how hard it was to implement license detection | 21:14 |
greg-g | one sec | 21:14 |
greg-g | http://banshee-project.org/~gburt/banshee.git | 21:15 |
nathany | paulproteus: hrm; they don't give pricing on the webiste -- not a good sign | 21:15 |
nathany | i'm guessing it's prohibitively expensive for home use | 21:15 |
greg-g | nathany: in src/Core/Banshee.Core/Banshee.Collection/LicenseInfo.cs | 21:15 |
paulproteus | "If you have to ask..." (-; | 21:15 |
nathany | exactly | 21:15 |
nathany | greg-g: interesting... maybe this will force me to look at C# | 21:21 |
greg-g | nathany: I've heard good things (and ignored all the "MS PATENTS WILL KILL YOU" comments) | 21:24 |
paulproteus | Me too. | 21:24 |
paulproteus | I just get frustrated when my friend at MS Research then sounds smug about it. | 21:24 |
nathany | greg-g: paulproteus: yeah, as with most things I suspect the truth lies at neither end of that spectrum | 21:25 |
greg-g | like "you open sourcies are digging out technology!"? | 21:25 |
greg-g | s/out/our/ | 21:25 |
paulproteus | He likes to use "weenies" whenever he can. | 21:25 |
paulproteus | Presumably he's invoking "Netscape engineers are weenies". | 21:26 |
greg-g | wow. | 21:26 |
paulproteus | He used that before he went to MS, I'm pretty sure, though. | 21:26 |
paulproteus | http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-239273.html for those who weren't keeping score in the twentieth century. | 21:28 |
Bovinity | reminds me of http://www.jwz.org/doc/censorzilla.html | 21:29 |
greg-g | Bovinity: that is what I thought of, also. | 21:30 |
paulproteus | Except that's not a remotely exploitable security hole. But sure. (-: | 21:31 |
Bovinity | rather the netscape engineers part :P | 21:32 |
paulproteus | Ah (-: | 21:32 |
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nathany | nkinkade: thanks for approving that transfer | 21:38 |
nathany | we're actually going to run this in the Google App Engine as something of an experiment | 21:38 |
nathany | let me find the DNS stuff and email it to you | 21:38 |
nkinkade | Ah, that's right I forgot about that, but I recall you saying it. | 21:41 |
nkinkade | Pretty soon Google and Amazon will control the world. | 21:41 |
* greg-g nods | 21:44 | |
greg-g | That is going to be a big push by the Ubuntu Server team in this devel cycle: cloud computing and supporting EC2, OOTB. | 21:45 |
nathany | nkinkade: looks like we'll need to configure oerfeeds.info as a google apps domain | 21:50 |
nathany | can you go ahead and do that (the basic version is probably fine)? | 21:51 |
nkinkade | nathany: I'll set that up. | 21:52 |
nathany | thanks | 21:52 |
nathany | create me an admin account with my usual username? | 21:52 |
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nathany | nkinkade: ping me when that's ready and i'll work on deploying the GAE instance | 21:59 |
m3cr3d1s | nathany: photos are uploading to cc's flickr account | 22:16 |
nathany | m3cr3d1s: awesome | 22:18 |
nathany | thanks | 22:19 |
nathany | are you creating a set there? | 22:19 |
m3cr3d1s | yes, after they get uploaded though | 22:19 |
m3cr3d1s | its about 25% done | 22:19 |
nathany | ok | 22:20 |
m3cr3d1s | nathany: upload complete | 22:40 |
nathany | m3cr3d1s: great; i'll go ahead and create a set for the Tech Summit with pointers both ways in the wiki | 22:41 |
m3cr3d1s | great | 22:41 |
m3cr3d1s | I can take care of the harvard panel after | 22:42 |
m3cr3d1s | or during | 22:42 |
nathany | i wish there was a way you could reverse the order of photos in a set | 22:42 |
nathany | so they'd be in chronological order | 22:42 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah, its a real failure of flickr | 22:43 |
m3cr3d1s | but you can organize the order inside the set | 22:43 |
m3cr3d1s | but it won't reflect it in the photostream | 22:43 |
nathany | right but it's manual | 22:43 |
m3cr3d1s | the organizr will let you sort by date shot | 22:43 |
m3cr3d1s | and I think it listens to my EXIF data | 22:43 |
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nathany | hrm, maybe i'll try that | 22:44 |
nathany | oh, that worked | 22:44 |
nathany | ok, better than nothing | 22:44 |
m3cr3d1s | yep | 22:44 |
nathany | i'm 100% convinced that Flickr's *only* recommending feature is the social network lock in | 22:45 |
m3cr3d1s | heh | 22:45 |
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m3cr3d1s | nathany: are the photos to your liking? | 23:04 |
nathany | m3cr3d1s: they're excellent, thank you | 23:05 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah, we all look very very serious | 23:05 |
nathany | when we get all the slides in I'll probably blog again | 23:05 |
m3cr3d1s | great | 23:05 |
m3cr3d1s | no rush | 23:05 |
nathany | well the web is serious serious business :) | 23:05 |
Bovinity | make it work, people | 23:06 |
nathany | "i'm worried; you have to consider what the judges will think -- just bring a real editorial eye" | 23:06 |
m3cr3d1s | its just too spicy -- did you taste it before you sent it out? | 23:06 |
nkinkade | nathany: Sorry about that. You're an admin now. | 23:07 |
nathany | nkinkade: awesome, thanks :) | 23:07 |
Bovinity | i stand behind my dish. | 23:07 |
nathany | lol | 23:07 |
nathany | nkinkade: can you add a CNAME for oerfeeds.info? | 23:15 |
nathany | pointing www to ghs.google.com? | 23:15 |
nkinkade | nathany: Done. | 23:19 |
nathany | nkinkade: do you think we should also redirect oerfeeds.info (w/o www) to www? | 23:20 |
nkinkade | nathany: Is there a reason to use www for anything? | 23:20 |
nathany | google app engine no longer supports hosting an app on a domain w/o a sub-domain | 23:20 |
nathany | so unfortunately, if we're going to do this experiment, it has to be [something].oerfeeds.info | 23:21 |
nathany | (www seemed like the logical choice) | 23:21 |
nkinkade | feeds.oerfeeds.info seems redundant. :-) | 23:21 |
nathany | :) | 23:21 |
nathany | did you set up www as a cname for the root of the domain? (not sure if dig is reporting cached information) | 23:21 |
nkinkade | But I guess you're right, if it has to be a subdomain then www seems reasonable and the base URL should go there too. | 23:22 |
nkinkade | dig is reporting cached info. | 23:22 |
nathany | ok :) | 23:22 |
nkinkade | It was a CNAME of the origin. | 23:22 |
nathany | oh, right -- it's showing the server as 10.0.2.1#53 | 23:22 |
Bovinity | http://flickr.com/photos/creativecommons/3111813568/ - in ur namespacez | 23:27 |
nathany | Bovinity: it cries out for LOLing | 23:31 |
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nathany | (i'll talk to rtkim) | 23:31 |
nathany | ;) | 23:31 |
Bovinity | i'll leave that to rtkim | 23:31 |
Bovinity | ... | 23:32 |
nathany | nkinkade: (or paulproteus) any idea how i can get the wrt65g to flush it's DNS cache? i'd like to test/wrap-up the oerfeeds stuff... | 23:34 |
nathany | i suppose i could just take this as a divine sign i should go home earlyu | 23:34 |
nkinkade | nathany: I dont' think it's the WRT. | 23:34 |
nkinkade | It's whatever the nameservers are for AT&T. | 23:35 |
nathany | ah | 23:35 |
nathany | got it | 23:35 |
nathany | nevermind | 23:35 |
nathany | i'll look tomorrow AM | 23:35 |
nkinkade | nathany: Just put an entry in your /etc/hosts fiile for now. | 23:35 |
nathany | right | 23:35 |
paulproteus | nathany, restart dnsmasq probably | 23:45 |
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nkinkade | paulproteus: Re: my other meesage about AllowOverride, nevermind. | 23:47 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, Okay | 23:47 |
nkinkade | Turns out I was mindlessly wrapping my Options in a <Directory> element, in the .htaccess! | 23:48 |
paulproteus | Egad. | 23:48 |
nkinkade | That God I don't have root access on that machine. | 23:48 |
nkinkade | *Thank | 23:48 |
nathany | nkinkade: that's *exactly* what i want to hear from my sysadmin ;) | 23:50 |
nathany | ok, i'm off -- see you all tomorrow | 23:51 |
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paulproteus | lol! | 23:51 |
nkinkade | ;-) | 23:51 |
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