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mlinksva | paulproteus: http://www.asheesh.org/note/debian/rdfa-pts.html has a really uninformative <title> | 00:32 |
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mlinksva | people who write about metadata and can't provide the most basic useful metadata need a corrective of some sort :) | 00:33 |
mlinksva | just saying | 00:33 |
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paulproteus | mlinksva, zing. | 03:58 |
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danborne | Does cc require that all cc lisenced work be registered online? | 04:13 |
paulproteus | danborne, Nope. | 04:18 |
paulproteus | It's an agreement between you and the person who uses your content; registration isn't necessary.' | 04:18 |
paulproteus | (I am not a lawyer; this is not legal advice; it is late o'clock in Baltimore.) | 04:18 |
danborne | Thank you paulproteus, I was not sure. | 04:19 |
paulproteus | Sure thing! I'm happy to help you answer other questions too. (-: | 04:19 |
tanjir | Here is how you can license your work under cc: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ | 04:19 |
tanjir | question 1 | 04:19 |
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CHEVRON | !help | 10:22 |
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OsamaK_ | Hi, I want to translate cc_org into Arabic, current translation is ugly, looks like machine translation (i.e. Google's).. Can I start a new (.POT) translation? if so, where can I find the file? | 11:22 |
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greg-g | OsamaK_: http://translate.creativecommons.org/ | 12:51 |
OsamaK_ | I got the file, greg-g | 12:52 |
OsamaK_ | thank you | 12:53 |
greg-g | no problem OsamaK_ | 12:53 |
OsamaK_ | which is by the way <http://code.creativecommons.org/viewsvn/i18n/trunk/i18n/templates/cc_org.pot?view=co> | 12:53 |
greg-g | OsamaK_: I think they want people to use the web interface (I'm not entirely sure, I havne't done much with the translations) | 12:54 |
OsamaK_ | looks hard and boring :) | 12:54 |
greg-g | :) | 12:54 |
OsamaK_ | greg-g, look: | 12:55 |
OsamaK_ | this is the first lines: | 12:55 |
OsamaK_ | #. New Zealand | 12:55 |
OsamaK_ | msgid "country.nz" | 12:55 |
OsamaK_ | msgstr "New Zealand" | 12:55 |
OsamaK_ | should I add the translation in "msgstr"? | 12:56 |
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Jhs | http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/towards_a_21st_century_government/ !!!! | 12:57 |
OsamaK_ | this is not good when reviewing the original text and the translation.. msgid gives nothing about it | 12:57 |
greg-g | OsamaK_: I don't know, I don't deal with the translations | 12:58 |
greg-g | Jhs: yep, I'm happy about that | 12:59 |
Jhs | :D | 12:59 |
OsamaK_ | that's great | 13:03 |
paulproteus | greg-g, Morning | 13:15 |
greg-g | morning paulproteus | 13:17 |
greg-g | I forget you are on the east coast | 13:17 |
paulproteus | (-: | 13:36 |
paulproteus | OsamaK_, If you'd rather use a PO editor we can push your changes into the web interface ourselves. | 13:37 |
paulproteus | In fact, if you know how to use Subversion, you can probably even commit yourself. | 13:37 |
tonyb486 | hi | 13:37 |
OsamaK_ | nice, I do know.. pandadave | 13:37 |
OsamaK_ | pandadave, how long does it take to apply the new translation? | 13:38 |
OsamaK_ | hi, tonyb486 | 13:38 |
tonyb486 | my laptop is already halfway dead and I forgot my charger today | 13:38 |
OsamaK_ | tonyb486, :-) | 13:38 |
tonyb486 | and its only 8:30 | 13:38 |
OsamaK_ | sorry.. It should go yo paulproteus | 13:40 |
paulproteus | BTW, I'm Asheesh Laroia from CC. | 13:46 |
paulproteus | In case you've seen my name around but not this nickname. (-: | 13:46 |
paulproteus | OsamaK_, You can view the translation at http://staging.creativecommons.org/ (especially http://staging.creativecommons.org/license/ ). | 13:47 |
paulproteus | As for how long to get to the real production site, that's much less clear. | 13:47 |
paulproteus | OsamaK_, There is a translation in progress, re: Arabic. | 13:47 |
paulproteus | Have you had a chance to check out if http://code.creativecommons.org/viewsvn/i18n/trunk/po/ar/cc_org.po?view=markup&pathrev=11302 is improved? | 13:48 |
OsamaK_ | I have not, I'll. | 13:49 |
OsamaK_ | paulproteus, It is bad too :( | 13:49 |
OsamaK_ | paulproteus, well, how can I test the translation on these sites? | 13:50 |
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paulproteus | That's from what people have contributed to the web interface. | 14:00 |
paulproteus | From what I understand it's much improved. | 14:00 |
paulproteus | I don't speak Arabic so I can't verify this. | 14:00 |
paulproteus | http://staging.creativecommons.org/license/ lets you test the translation. | 14:01 |
paulproteus | If it's bad, too, the easiest thing to do is translate the PO file. But you should email michelle at creativecommons.org who coordinates the international efforts at any rate. | 14:01 |
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OsamaK_ | paulproteus, sorry, you mean asking him if there already somebody works on it or not? | 14:05 |
OsamaK_ | paulproteus, Is translation of <a></a> kind of improvement? :P | 14:06 |
OsamaK_ | or <strong>! | 14:06 |
OsamaK_ | I prefer to start a new translation from the begin | 14:07 |
OsamaK_ | check this, paulproteus <http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-devel/2008-December/001176.html> | 14:08 |
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nathany | paulproteus: are you re-running "buildout install i18n" after updating the po files on staging? | 16:13 |
paulproteus | nathany, Morning. | 16:23 |
paulproteus | I am, but I currently have doubts that commit is actually working, so I'm going to double-check the whole path. | 16:24 |
nathany | ok | 16:24 |
nkinkade | mlinksva: Do you know anything about the image at this post? http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7020 | 16:25 |
mlinksva | no | 16:26 |
nkinkade | mlinksva: Someone inquired about whether they could use the image or not. In cases like this, do we just say "go ahead!" or "use at your own risk, like we did." | 16:30 |
paulproteus | Okay, commits are working... | 16:38 |
paulproteus | and po2cc is doing the right thing. | 16:38 |
paulproteus | nathany, I just ran buildout -N install i18n by hand, and still ?lang=no doesn't work. | 16:39 |
nathany | paulproteus: and restarted cc.engine? | 16:39 |
paulproteus | Yes. | 16:39 |
nathany | ok | 16:40 |
paulproteus | lang=no Simply Doesn't Show Up in the "labs" /license/ | 16:40 |
paulproteus | lang=fr works fine, for example. | 16:40 |
paulproteus | I'm going to go have lunch shortly; okay to talk at 1:30 my time (11:30 yours)? | 16:40 |
nathany | sure | 16:40 |
paulproteus | Er, wait, 1:30 my time is 10:30 yours I think. | 16:40 |
paulproteus | Wow, it's always really early out there on the west coast. | 16:40 |
nathany | oh, i wonder if this is an annoying problem with language codes | 16:40 |
paulproteus | It works fine in production! | 16:41 |
nathany | for some reason lang=no stands out as one we might have gotten wrong | 16:41 |
nathany | hrm | 16:41 |
nathany | ok | 16:41 |
paulproteus | I should be back by then; let me say 10:30 to 11, hopefully toward the start of that. | 16:41 |
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* Bovinity ponders if the website should emphasise the FREE part of the licenses more. | 18:35 | |
* nkinkade thinks that the /contact page should be the next for a major overhaul | 18:36 | |
Bovinity | nkinkade: almost all the Contact page content is moving to Stay Informed | 18:36 |
nkinkade | (and emphasizing the "free" part. | 18:36 |
Bovinity | the next biggest priorties are /license and / | 18:36 |
nkinkade | Oh, cool. Then that will leave us room to add some admonitions for people to read the FAQ first. | 18:37 |
Bovinity | the next biggest priorties are /license and / and "free" | 18:37 |
nkinkade | I'd be happy to do /contact myself. | 18:37 |
nkinkade | And then put it up for review. | 18:37 |
Bovinity | more FAQ pointers on /contact could help a lot | 18:38 |
nkinkade | That's the main thing I've got in mind. | 18:39 |
nkinkade | A brief section above the contact form just outlining, not answering, various common questions that are answered in the [F]FAQ. | 18:39 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: What spurred you to make the comment about emphasizing that the licenses are free? | 18:42 |
nkinkade | The CC wiki seems to be down. | 18:43 |
nkinkade | a7 that is. | 18:43 |
Bovinity | nkinkade: jen's on a call and had to empahsise that yes, licenses are free. | 18:43 |
Bovinity | nkinkade: it's also a recurring theme. | 18:43 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Are you by change doing anything largish with svn and code.CC.org? | 18:44 |
Bovinity | nkinkade: but sure, if you ahve time available to tinker with /contact, go ahead. | 18:45 |
nkinkade | nathany: Are you doing a large svn checkout or commit? | 18:46 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, I don't think so. | 18:46 |
nathany | nkinkade: yes, a large commit | 18:47 |
nathany | just finished | 18:47 |
nkinkade | And now wiki is back. | 18:47 |
nkinkade | It seems to have caused web services to pretty much go down on a7. | 18:47 |
nkinkade | This disk I/O sensitivity is really a huge problem. | 18:47 |
nathany | any way to run all of our svn/git ops withing an ionice jail? | 18:48 |
nkinkade | I wonder if there is any way to ionice the svn stuff. | 18:48 |
paulproteus | Sure, that'd be easy. | 18:48 |
paulproteus | I guess replace svnserve with a wrapper that ionices. | 18:48 |
paulproteus | The hard part is making sure that works properly with setuid() since ionice is a privileged operationl | 18:48 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Do you think that could work git as well? | 18:48 |
paulproteus | Sure. | 18:48 |
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paulproteus | However, it would be easy to write setuid-root wrapper for ionice that means, "ionice my parent". | 18:49 |
paulproteus | Then if the parent calls that before it calls its children, the children will be ioniced. | 18:49 |
paulproteus | Should I go write that now? (-: | 18:49 |
paulproteus | Should take 15m or something. | 18:49 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: That would be great. | 18:49 |
nkinkade | :-) | 18:49 |
paulproteus | Okay, tty y'all in 15. (-: | 18:50 |
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paulproteus | Okay, now I'll rewrite it in C. | 19:12 |
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paulproteus | Okay, now I'll git push. | 19:23 |
paulproteus | paulproteus@vellum:~/projects/ionicer $ ionice -p$$ | 19:24 |
paulproteus | none: prio 4 | 19:24 |
paulproteus | paulproteus@vellum:~/projects/ionicer $ ionicer | 19:24 |
paulproteus | paulproteus@vellum:~/projects/ionicer $ ionice -p$$ | 19:24 |
paulproteus | idle | 19:24 |
paulproteus | In another 10m I'll wrap git and svnserve. | 19:24 |
Bovinity | longest 15m evar. | 19:28 |
paulproteus | Yeah, for reals. I first wrote it in Python, and then I realized how very wrong an idea that was. | 19:29 |
paulproteus | I should probably make it a Debian package, but I won't "this time." | 19:30 |
* paulproteus enjoys how slow his own gitweb is... | 19:32 | |
paulproteus | Silly git-svn import of my music not being done yet. | 19:32 |
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paulproteus | Success! | 19:46 |
paulproteus | For svn. | 19:46 |
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tonyb486 | hi | 19:56 |
paulproteus | Howdy tonyb486. | 19:59 |
paulproteus | nathany / nkinkade: http://labs.creativecommons.org/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&post=190 if you want to proofread | 20:03 |
paulproteus | In practice I'm waiting for a git 1.6 upgrade to finish compiling so the only binary put by git in /usr/bin is git itself, but svn is done. | 20:03 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Looks good to me. Thanks for that. | 20:08 |
nkinkade | So why does it need to ionice it's parent? | 20:08 |
nkinkade | I think I got lost in the chain of events. | 20:09 |
paulproteus | Oh, I guess I could go into that. | 20:10 |
paulproteus | The idea is the shell script that calls it gets ioniced, and then that shell calls the svadmin.real. | 20:10 |
paulproteus | svnadmin.real, rather. | 20:10 |
paulproteus | Wow, the git-svn tests are slow. | 20:11 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: No, I don't mean you need to get into that in the post, but here for my own understanding. :-) | 20:12 |
nkinkade | Or on the post, I can read either. | 20:12 |
paulproteus | Did I explain it here well enough? | 20:14 |
nkinkade | I guess I don't know which shell script you are referring to. | 20:14 |
paulproteus | /usr/bin/svnadmin | 20:15 |
nkinkade | Is svadmin a shell scriptl. | 20:15 |
nkinkade | Ah. | 20:15 |
paulproteus | It's not usually. | 20:15 |
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nkinkade | Okay, now that makes sense. | 20:15 |
paulproteus | But the idea of diversion is that I make it one. | 20:15 |
nkinkade | svnserve normally get called directly through the SSH channel? | 20:16 |
paulproteus | Yup, that's the definition of svn+ssh. | 20:16 |
nkinkade | So now this thing will be SSH->svnserve [bash script]->ionicer->svnserve.real? | 20:17 |
paulproteus | In execution path yes, but not in parent-child relationship. | 20:18 |
paulproteus | ssh->svnserve [bash script] -> ( ionicer -> ionice (which goes away)) | 20:18 |
paulproteus | -> svnserve.real | 20:18 |
paulproteus | My indenting is off; that should come after the bash script, anyway. | 20:18 |
paulproteus | And both ionice and ionicer go away. | 20:19 |
paulproteus | Like a shell script that calls echo. | 20:19 |
paulproteus | And now I got blocked on the git port for using it too much. | 20:22 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, Er, what controls the git daemon? | 20:24 |
paulproteus | I get "fatal: read error (Connection reset by peer)" | 20:24 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: I'm not sure. Didn't you set that up? | 20:25 |
paulproteus | Dec 2 20:25:09 a7 inetd[32249]: execv /usr/bin/git-daemon: No such file or dire | 20:25 |
paulproteus | ctory | 20:25 |
paulproteus | Ah-hah. | 20:25 |
paulproteus | I'll fix this. | 20:25 |
paulproteus | Has to do with the 1.6 upgrade. | 20:25 |
paulproteus | There, all better! | 20:26 |
nkinkade | Now as a test you should checkout the entire subversion repository, or try to. | 20:26 |
paulproteus | Hah. | 20:30 |
paulproteus | ...if you insist. | 20:30 |
* paulproteus does so | 20:30 | |
nkinkade | haha | 20:32 |
paulproteus | What, got paged? | 20:32 |
nkinkade | No yet. | 20:32 |
paulproteus | Keep in mind both I and the server have enormous amounts of bandwidth. | 20:33 |
nkinkade | You can know for yourself by heading over to your favorite local browser and asking for http://wiki.creativecommons.org | 20:33 |
paulproteus | Seems good so far. | 20:36 |
paulproteus | nathany, syn | 20:41 |
nathany | ack | 20:42 |
paulproteus | I'm still at a loss re: NO, plus wanna chat? | 20:42 |
paulproteus | Hope you enjoyed lunch (?). | 20:42 |
nathany | paulproteus: yeah, just back from lunch | 20:42 |
nathany | give me 5 minutes or so and let's chat... | 20:43 |
paulproteus | Sure, no prob. | 20:43 |
paulproteus | I wonder where I can find some relative privacy. | 20:43 |
paulproteus | I think you can actually see me on a webcam right now. | 20:43 |
paulproteus | Yeah, http://www.acm.jhu.edu/webcam.php | 20:43 |
greg-g | paulproteus: wave hello | 20:44 |
greg-g | lol | 20:44 |
paulproteus | LOL over IP | 20:44 |
paulproteus | LoIP | 20:44 |
tonyb486 | rofl | 20:44 |
tonyb486 | lol at that quote | 20:46 |
tonyb486 | paulproteus: dance | 20:47 |
paulproteus | </dance> | 20:47 |
tonyb486 | hehehe | 20:47 |
tonyb486 | cool | 20:48 |
paulproteus | Anyway, whenever you want nathany. | 20:48 |
paulproteus | Call my cell is fine. | 20:48 |
* tonyb486 wonders if he should apply to that school too | 20:48 | |
paulproteus | It's pretty neat. | 20:48 |
paulproteus | You could even transfer here. acm.jhu.edu would be a great place for you. | 20:48 |
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paulproteus | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_with_Pootle/Administration | 20:57 |
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tonyb486 | feh -R1 http://128.220.70.65:8080 | 21:00 |
* tonyb486 is bored and stressed out at the same time | 21:00 | |
tonyb486 | that means Im avoiding something, doesn ti | 21:00 |
tonyb486 | it | 21:00 |
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nkinkade | Here's something hilarious: http://pastebin.ca/1274061 | 21:17 |
nkinkade | I'm trying to figure out why CiviCRM is sometimes erroneously returning 2 apparent contributions, when only 1 exists. It took me about an hour to even find out where that query was even getting generated, and now I've got to wade through beastly thing. | 21:18 |
tonyb486 | lol | 21:18 |
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paulproteus | nkinkade, AND ( 1 ) | 22:07 |
paulproteus | ...I wonder if my svn checkout of the whole repo finished. I bitbucketed its output. | 22:08 |
nkinkade | Not sure what the AND (1) is for. | 22:10 |
* greg-g wonders if he should put "Will CC Attend=Yes" for the birthday party in Michigan he will be at | 22:12 | |
paulproteus | Well, it's really supposed to be for ccLearn things. | 22:14 |
greg-g | I didn't realize that | 22:14 |
paulproteus | Well, I'm not sure it's super true. | 22:15 |
paulproteus | I think my filter might look for only ccLearn events anyway. | 22:15 |
paulproteus | So ignore my claim. | 22:15 |
paulproteus | You're welcome to, just know that it won't appear on the learn.creativecommons.org map. (-: | 22:15 |
greg-g | glad to hear it :) | 22:15 |
greg-g | with a generic name like "Event" you wouldn't think it would be ccLearn specific ;) | 22:16 |
Bovinity | welcome to wikis! | 22:16 |
paulproteus | I think it's not really ccLearn specific. | 22:18 |
paulproteus | I think I was just afraid. | 22:18 |
* greg-g nods | 22:22 | |
Bovinity | nkinkade: should sciencecommons.org be in svn? | 22:38 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: I think it probably should. | 22:40 |
nkinkade | At the very least the theme. | 22:40 |
nkinkade | I don't think they have any modifications to WP, so perhaps the theme is enough. | 22:40 |
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