| nkinkade | Bovinity: The frustrating thing is that I can view the video fine in my browser. :-) | 00:01 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, Maybe gnash can convert it. (-: | 00:03 |
| nkinkade | Does gnash have a command like version? | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | I don't really suggest doing things that way, btw, since we'd best-served by the FLA (flash source; it compiles into SWF) file. | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | But yes. | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | So does swfdec. | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | In fact, if swfdec can play it, gstreamer-swfdec can too. | 00:04 |
| nkinkade | I think I'll just wait for this guy to send me a version that will be easier to work with. | 00:06 |
| mecredis | paulproteus: hello good bye | 00:42 |
| mecredis | :) | 00:42 |
| paulproteus | mecredis, Bye!? | 00:43 |
| * paulproteus holds back the tears. | 00:43 | |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: any idea why cc.engine on staging is a production checkout instaed of a trunk checkout? | 01:43 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Um. | 01:43 |
| paulproteus | Not really. | 01:43 |
| paulproteus | That seems pretty silly to me. | 01:43 |
| paulproteus | But maybe NY had some reason for doing that. | 01:43 |
| Bovinity | indeed | 01:43 |
| Bovinity | i'll jsut email him about it | 01:44 |
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| Bovinity | nkinkade: did you ever get the FLA version of that translated get creative? | 19:33 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Still waiting to hear back from the guy in Argentina. | 19:34 |
| nkinkade | Off to grab a bite to eat. | 19:34 |
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| adelie42 | I am confused. I have been using a cc by-nc-sa license for quite some time, and just got a request for a commercial use of my work. My preference would be to allow then to use it if their work is also going to use some kind of CC license too. Is a letter / email enough to grant permission for a commercial use and still protect the by-sa portions? | 19:50 |
| paulproteus | adelie42, Yes - you can grant any separate permission you like, separate from a CC license. | 20:00 |
| paulproteus | (I'm not a lawyer, though!) | 20:00 |
| paulproteus | (And this is not legal advice. And peanuts are not almonds.) | 20:00 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, SYN | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Hi | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I imported all the languages from pootle.prefs into http://a7.creativecommons.org:8090/projects/cc_org/admin.html (username/password admin/admin), but for some reason some languages don't show up with their names. | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | Like there should be four Frenches: fr_LU, fr, fr_CA, and fr_CH. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | Instead there's only really fr, fr, fr, fr_CA. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | I wonder if that's a problem on our real Pootle. I kind of doubt it. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | /var/www/translate.creativecommons.org/pootle.prefs is the real Pootle config, right? | 20:26 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: When you say "imported," does that mean you used some type of tool, or was it something with svn? | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | I wrote an import tool earlier today. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | In Mozootle, languages are stored in a DB! | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I've been confused about that for a while ... I know that /etc/pootle/users.prefs is the real one for users. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | Oh okay. | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | So it would follow that the Pootle prefs might be in /etc/pootle as well. | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | Neato. | 20:28 |
| paulproteus | I'll import the right files then. (-: | 20:28 |
| nkinkade | Maybe the one in /var/www is some old one and that's why things seem broken? | 20:28 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 20:28 |
| * paulproteus nods | 20:28 | |
| nkinkade | There's no way you would have known that, and I only learned through trial and error a while back. | 20:28 |
| paulproteus | Well, I could have read some init scripts or something. | 20:29 |
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| nkinkade | mlinksva? | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | Or maybe mecredis or even paulproteus. I'll invoke everyone in this channel. | 21:35 |
| mecredis | hhuzzah?! | 21:36 |
| Bovinity | by the power of greyskull | 21:36 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 21:36 |
| nkinkade | mecredis: Is it your understanding that a CC-licensed work can be reproduced in any medium possible? | 21:36 |
| nkinkade | That is, a PDF or ebook or whatever under some CC license could be printed, bound and then redistributed. | 21:37 |
| mecredis | I don't see why not | 21:37 |
| mecredis | yeah, unless its DRM'd | 21:37 |
| nkinkade | I feel like I've seen some debate abou tthis on cc-community. | 21:37 |
| mecredis | and its not strictly prohibited for it to be DRM'd | 21:37 |
| mecredis | it just can't be released by the author only as DRM'd | 21:37 |
| mlinksva | nkinkade: hi | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | But the licenses seem to indicate that it can be put down in any medium: 1(i) of by-nc-nd | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | ""Reproduce" means to make copies of the Work by any means" | 21:38 |
| mlinksva | it *can* be released by the author DRM'd (they don't need the license), just not anyone else :) | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: I was just seeing if you had any comments regarding the past few things I posted here. | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | But excluding DRM, a licensee can convert formats and media at will? | 21:39 |
| mlinksva | yes | 21:39 |
| nkinkade | That's what I thought, but as I went to answer a particular info@ email I was suddenly struck with some doubt and wanted to be sure before I hit the send button. | 21:40 |
| mlinksva | it says very explicitly in the legalcode if you felt like quoting that | 21:41 |
| mlinksva | btw I even took advantage of format shifting recently (but don't cite it in a @cc email) http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2008/09/01/google-chrome-comix-pdf/ | 21:42 |
| mlinksva | (see last para) | 21:42 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: I did quote the license just a few lines back. :-) | 21:44 |
| nkinkade | (04:38:24 PM) nkinkade: ""Reproduce" means to make copies of the Work by any means" | 21:44 |
| nkinkade | Thanks for the link. | 21:44 |
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| mlinksva | nkinkade: oh right | 21:50 |
| mlinksva | the part i was thinking of says | 21:50 |
| mlinksva | The above rights may be exercised in all media and formats whether now known or hereafter devised. The above rights include the right to make such modifications as are technically necessary to exercise the rights in other media and formats. | 21:50 |
| nkinkade | That's even more conclusive that the definition I cited. | 21:51 |
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| greg-g | hmmm, someone using the CC logo as their site's fav.ico, issue or no? | 22:17 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: My guess is that it would violate the CC policies. | 22:37 |
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| Steren | hi | 23:13 |
| paulproteus | Howdy Steren. | 23:13 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, There's a trademark policy web page. | 23:13 |
| greg-g | heya Steren, paulproteus | 23:13 |
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| * paulproteus blinks | 23:14 | |
| paulproteus | I was out of channel for a few hours. | 23:14 |
| Steren | paulproteus: concerning this weekly staff call mail, I a bit lost. CC needs an automatic email before every staff call ? | 23:15 |
| paulproteus | We already have http://code.creativecommons.org/svnroot/pywikipedia/trunk/weekly_teamspace_page_creator.py . | 23:15 |
| Steren | ok, and what was the problem ? | 23:16 |
| paulproteus | http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Weekly_Staff_Call/2008-11-12#Asheesh_Laroia explains the current state. | 23:16 |
| paulproteus | The "On Monday" and "On Tuesday" exist. The part that's not great (that mlinksva, I think, thinks we should stop worrying about) is that NY wanted the enhancement described in "PLUS now". | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | If you update the page between Mon noon and Tues noon, cc-staff gets your notes from the past week, because the bot downloads the page and emails cc-staff. | 23:17 |
| Bovinity | it should also offer a snarky comment on every late addition. | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | /usr/games/fortune -o ? | 23:18 |
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| paulproteus | But if you update after Tuesday, NY wants cc-staff to receive an email just through editing the wiki, so "Watch this page" seemed the easiest way to do that. | 23:18 |
| Steren | ok ok now it makes sens to me. That funny, I've never put something on these staff call pages, nobody told me so :) (oh maybe I just missed it) | 23:19 |
| paulproteus | Well, you also don't join the staff call. (-: | 23:20 |
| Steren | Yes sure, but I was during the summer | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | This whole setup is fairly new, say 8-12 weeks. | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | Wow, fortune -o is not very work-safe. | 23:21 |
| paulproteus | I recommend it. | 23:21 |
| paulproteus | (apt-get install fortunes-off) | 23:21 |
| Bovinity | lame, OSX doesnt ship with fortune. | 23:22 |
| Steren | :) | 23:23 |
| paulproteus | a5 a6 a7 a8 all have it now. | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | Thanks to clusterssh! | 23:28 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: The tab-bar on staging is looking nicerer-er. | 23:49 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: thanks. it jsut needs to be deployed everywhere now. | 23:51 |
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