Tuesday, 2008-10-14

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* shyam_cli from kerala where all students study Free Software exclusively.17:15
shyam_clia school teacher proposed me to create some videos explaining science to school children ..17:15
shyam_clido you know any sharable collection of videos describing science to school children?17:16
shyam_clithere should be some kind of project aiming to produce educational content to students with sharing culture right?17:17
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nkinkadeHi shyam_cli: There are a number of Open Education resource web sites.17:46
shyam_clilike?:) /me lazy on doing the research to find the best:)17:47
nkinkadeA good place to start might be at the ccLearn website: http://learn.creativecommons.org17:47
shyam_clicool! thanks17:47
nkinkadeThere is a resources tab and also a search tab.17:47
nkinkadeA direct link of another site I know about is http://www.oercommons.org17:48
shyam_cliic..17:48
nkinkadepaulproteus: ImportError: No module named mime.text17:49
nkinkadeDoes that mean anything to you in connection with Herder?17:50
shyam_clinkinkade: thanks.. i got the start required.. /me will come back soon:)17:52
nkinkadeshyam_cli:  No problem ... hopefully you'll turn up some useful things.17:53
nkinkadeThere's a lot out there, but finding it isn't always easy.17:53
nkinkadeThat's one part of what ccLearn is working on.17:53
shyam_clihmm.. with kerala gov luckly doing the right thing of striking the educational sector and academicians to understand about the sharing culture, the teachers are enthusiastic about it.. may be they will be soon producing content too.17:54
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shyam_clirohitj: :)17:56
rohitjshyam_cli: ??17:57
shyam_clis/:)/hi/17:57
rohitjlolz17:57
rohitjhi shyam_cli17:57
rohitjshyam_cli: intro please :)17:58
shyam_clilast year engineering student enthusiastic free software activist(aka dreamer):)17:59
shyam_clihehe17:59
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shyam_clinothing serious.. as all who hear about the sharing culture, i too got moved much .. would like to do something as i progress thats all:)18:01
* shyam_cli from kerala,India18:01
rohitjI am a first year grad student. and a freedom loving guy18:01
shyam_clicool..18:01
rohitjshyam_cli: which country are you in?18:01
shyam_cliIndia18:01
rohitjCool18:01
rohitjWhere in India?18:02
shyam_cliKerala18:02
rohitjoh ok18:02
shyam_cligod's own country... different types of gods own much of this country:)18:02
rohitjhmm18:03
rohitjI am from Uttar Pradesh18:03
shyam_cliic cool..18:04
shyam_cliyou people have gnu in syllabi there?18:04
rohitjbut currently, I am in this country which created the need for Free Culture18:04
shyam_cliUS?18:04
shyam_cli:)18:04
rohitjyes18:04
shyam_clihehe18:04
rohitjwhose syllabi?18:05
shyam_cliusa na? then its ok:)18:05
rohitjhmm :P18:06
shyam_clidoing PG? or UG?18:06
rohitjtold you, I am a grad student.18:07
rohitjPG, that is18:07
shyam_cliohk..i missed it..18:08
shyam_clian free software free society conf is gonna happen here in kerala by december..18:09
shyam_cliwould be home that time?18:09
rohitjshyam_cli: no18:10
shyam_clihmm..18:10
rohitjI will try to come home for FOSSKriti though18:10
rohitjdo you know what FOSSKriti is?18:10
shyam_clino searching..18:10
rohitjdo you know FOSS.IN?18:11
shyam_cliofcourse..18:11
rohitjOk, FOSSKriti was a mini FOSS conference we organized last febuary18:11
rohitjwe means IITK18:11
shyam_clihmm cool!..18:12
rohitjand it was quite a good success. And taking similar steps then IITM organized a FOSS conf in their Shastra as well18:12
shyam_cliic.. you people are asking for fund from foss.in gang?18:13
rohitjno18:13
shyam_cliok..18:13
shyam_clithey had such an option..so just asked;-)18:13
rohitjoh, I didnt know that18:13
rohitjwe arranged our own sponsors18:13
shyam_clisome 50000/- or so i think..18:14
* shyam_cli dissappointed with their plan this year:(18:14
shyam_clitalk is cheap! coding is the only contribution! :)18:15
rohitjshyam_cli: this time they are talking about real stuff18:16
rohitjshyam_cli:  I liked the idea18:16
shyam_clireal stuff and all are there but a national platform for Free Software can do a lot more than coding.. though its also interesting..18:17
shyam_clioh sorry it wasnt about Free Software..but open source;-)18:18
shyam_clibtw /me searching for a pg course after completing his btech in electronics..18:19
shyam_cliexpecting to join MS at IIITh18:19
shyam_cliyou wrote gre? i mean about the selection criteria?18:20
nkinkadenathany:  Would you have an idea why python2.5 can import email.mime.text, but python2.4 can't?18:25
nathanynkinkade: maybe it's new in 2.5?18:25
nkinkadeHerder is barfing on an import error.18:26
nkinkadeIt's been down for quite some time.18:26
nathanyis that why it's spewing messages? i just assume paulproteus left it half configured yesterday18:26
nkinkadenathany: Yeah, that's where the Nagios messages are coming from.18:26
nkinkadeI guess I could try to force Herder to use 2.5?18:27
nkinkadeI'd rather leave that for paulproteus though.18:27
nathanyiirc you need ABI compatibility with the apache mod_wsgi (which is compiled with the current debian default of 2.4)18:27
nkinkadeIs he not around today?18:27
nathanyso i'd leave this for paulproteus18:27
nkinkadeI may disable monitoring of herder for now.18:27
nathanybased on recent performance, paulproteus is probably just waking up18:27
nathanynkinkade: fine18:27
nkinkadeI'll send an email to paulproteus and copy you.18:28
nathanythanks18:28
nathanynkinkade: btw, is the civicrm -> cc.net script ready on your end (ie, w/ receipt_date)18:29
nathany(and if so, can you re-point me to it so i can finish wiring it up?)18:29
nkinkadenathany: I think it should be ready.18:29
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* paulproteus blinks19:03
paulproteusHi all.19:03
paulproteusnkinkade, Yes, it does.  It means I have to backport Herder to Python 2.4 if I'm to deploy it with mod_wsgi.19:04
paulproteusnkinkade, I plan to look into that Right Now. (-:19:04
paulproteusBTW, I'm going to ignore email+IRC+IM  for the next 1-3h; ping me if necessary.19:08
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paulproteusnathany, with mod_wsgi can one choose the UID the Python code runs as?20:00
paulproteusLike how you can with CGI but can't with mod_php?20:00
nathanypaulproteus: yes, see the documentation20:02
nathanymodsgi.org20:02
paulproteusCool, will read more carefully.20:03
paulproteusFWIW I don't see it yet, but am still looking.20:04
paulproteusAh-hah.20:05
nathanypaulproteus: http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/ConfigurationDirectives#WSGIDaemonProcess20:05
paulproteusJust got it, yeah.20:05
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paulproteusHey, wow.20:29
paulproteusHerder is live.20:29
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paulproteusnathany, Can we talk for a few minutes sometime?20:37
nathanypaulproteus: sure; urgent, or can i wrap up a few things first?20:39
paulproteusWithin the next 1h is fine.20:39
nathanyok20:39
paulproteusI'd rather talk sooner but if you need the time go for it.20:39
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paulproteusnathany, fwiw: entrans is maintained in sf.net CVS and hasn't been updated for two years.21:59
nathanypaulproteus: boo21:59
paulproteusJust saying it to make your stomach twist.21:59
paulproteusSongbird has an in-house RoR-looking thing developed; it's at e.g. http://staging.translate.songbirdnest.com/languages/de22:00
paulproteusNo support for suggestions.22:00
nathanynkinkade: i just tried to give on zupport and got a nasty looking traceback22:00
nathanyDatabase Error Code: Duplicate entry '1-14' for key 2, 106222:01
paulproteusAlso it makes hilarious escaping mistakes, as visible in the de translation of addMediaToPlaylistCmd.noPlaylist.label.22:01
nkinkadenathany: I've seen zupport throw some key errors before, but it never seems to be repeatable for me.22:01
nathanyi just repeated it22:02
nathany(tried changing the email address, thought that might be it)22:02
nathanylooks like it's a mailings bug22:02
nathanylike it's trying to add my mailing prefs for the newsletters and barfing cause my contact already has one?22:03
nkinkadenathany: Are you currently logged into zupport?22:03
nathany(i'm pastebin-ing it now)22:03
nathanynkinkade: yes22:03
nkinkadeLog out and try it again.22:03
nkinkadeCiviCRM keeps some interesting table that tries to define a relationship between a Drupal user and a CiviCRM user and it gets wedged when it notices the same email address for 2 users.22:04
Bovinityhmm, the new songbird site is really nice.22:05
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paulproteusAlso nathany, Entrans itself is not translated.22:08
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paulproteusnathany, SYN for a ccnet.po sanity check?22:26
paulproteus(ACK in voice is best)22:26
paulproteusnathany, Are you aware that Mozilla branched Pootle?22:55
* paulproteus investigates that branch...22:56
nathanynathany: i am not22:58
nathanyer, paulproteus i am not22:58
paulproteusTalking to ourselves again, I see.22:58
nathanynathany: yes22:58
* paulproteus watches http://l10n.mozilla.org/pootle/screencasts/mozilla-pootle.ogv at 3.14x22:59
paulproteushttp://sm-cms01.mozilla.com:8081/en/ !23:02
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