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Steren | hi :) | 15:02 |
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nkinkade | Steren: Hi. | 15:13 |
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m3cr3d1s | nkinkade: Steren hi | 15:19 |
m3cr3d1s | teamspace is sad | 15:19 |
m3cr3d1s | : / | 15:19 |
m3cr3d1s | as in down | 15:19 |
nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: It's getting a RAM upgrade. | 15:19 |
nkinkade | But I can't figure out why it's been down so long. It shouldn't take more than 2 or 3 minutes to drop a RAM module in a server. | 15:20 |
m3cr3d1s | heh | 15:20 |
nkinkade | When they did a5, it was only down for a minute or two. | 15:20 |
m3cr3d1s | who is they? | 15:20 |
nkinkade | Server Beach. | 15:21 |
m3cr3d1s | beached whale! | 15:21 |
m3cr3d1s | sorry | 15:22 |
nkinkade | I'm about to have to try to contact them, because it's already been down for 30 minutes, which is totally unacceptable. | 15:22 |
m3cr3d1s | maybe the guy got lost on the way to the server | 15:23 |
nkinkade | They claim that there's no note from the datacenter that the work has begun. | 15:30 |
paulproteus | Morning. | 15:31 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Good morning. | 15:31 |
paulproteus | I slept only 3-4h last night. | 15:31 |
paulproteus | Not sleeping one night one was one fun thing about Debconf, so hopefully this will re-energize me. | 15:31 |
nkinkade | I've never found that not sleeping energizes me. | 15:32 |
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paulproteus | How counterintuitive. | 15:32 |
nkinkade | Oh, how interesting. Server Beach claimed the data center hadn't begun the work, yet 5 minutes after a call the server comes up and with 1G more memory than it had before. | 15:35 |
paulproteus | That's a relief. | 15:36 |
m3cr3d1s | FANCY THAT | 15:36 |
m3cr3d1s | heh | 15:36 |
paulproteus | Heh, m3cr3d1s. | 15:36 |
nkinkade | But there's a missing Gigabyte of memory. | 15:36 |
paulproteus | ....oh. | 15:36 |
m3cr3d1s | how many should it have? | 15:36 |
nkinkade | Since when does installing a RAM module take 45 minutes? | 15:36 |
paulproteus | You know, at this point I think I'd actually prefer Joi's Lab's henchmen. | 15:36 |
nkinkade | I requested 2G additional. | 15:36 |
m3cr3d1s | or henchwomen | 15:36 |
nkinkade | But free reports only 3024 and it had 2G going into it. | 15:37 |
paulproteus | m3cr3d1s, Sure, I see henchmen a gender-neutral term. | 15:37 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, Try "dmidecode" also. | 15:37 |
m3cr3d1s | just was thinking -- isn't fumi a henchwoman? | 15:37 |
paulproteus | Yeah, it's really Fumi + Kuri. | 15:37 |
m3cr3d1s | heh | 15:37 |
paulproteus | Plus Yuki now, somewhat. | 15:37 |
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nkinkade | And now a7 just got rebooted by someone ... probably a technician at Server Beach. | 16:03 |
nkinkade | This hasn't been the most graceful memory upgrade. | 16:03 |
nkinkade | But the one on a5 happened so quickly that Nagios didn't even have time to catch it and send an alert. | 16:03 |
Steren | Where is hosted the main CC website ? | 16:04 |
nkinkade | Steren: It's also with Server Beach, in a datacenter in Los Angeles. | 16:06 |
paulproteus | At a company called Server Beach / on a5.creativecommons.org. | 16:06 |
nkinkade | a7 is in a different datacenter, a datacenter in San Antonio, TX. | 16:06 |
Steren | yes my question was more, where in the world :) just to know. And when I work on a8, where am I ? | 16:06 |
nkinkade | Steren: You use Ubuntu, right? | 16:08 |
nkinkade | Try: mtr a8.creativecommons.org | 16:08 |
nkinkade | The intervening router names are usually intuitive enough that you can determine the location. | 16:09 |
nkinkade | But a8 in San Antonio, TX as well. | 16:09 |
Steren | nkinkade: well thanks for this, I didn't know "mtr" | 16:10 |
nkinkade | mtr is a neat little tool, much more useful for everyday use than traceroute. | 16:11 |
nkinkade | And Ubuntu is nice enough to ship mtr with the default install. | 16:11 |
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paulproteus | Wow re: default install. | 16:14 |
nathany | nkinkade: so a7 is.... fucked? | 16:21 |
nkinkade | nathany: Fairly. | 16:28 |
nkinkade | I'm about to call them, again. | 16:28 |
* greg-g is going to the Ubuntu Developer Summit at Google in December | 16:28 | |
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nkinkade | nathany: I don't know what they are doing. Apparently they tried to add 2G but only 1 of the 2 was visible. So the person I just spoke with said something about the looking into that, and the BIOS, and something else ... In short, they didn't have any useful information. | 16:34 |
Bovinity | nkinkade: the ask letter mail, that i assume you sent out, is misformatted | 16:35 |
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paulproteus | Well, nothing to do while a7 is down but get dressed. (-; | 16:51 |
nkinkade | It's back up, but still only showing 3G of memory. :-( | 16:57 |
nkinkade | Now it's down again ... | 17:13 |
nkinkade | This is depressing. | 17:13 |
paulproteus | w00t, a7 responds to pings | 17:21 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, ^ | 17:21 |
greg-g | oh, does a7 host teamspace? | 17:22 |
nkinkade | Yeah, but it still doesn't show the right amount of memory. | 17:23 |
paulproteus | Did you check dmidecode? | 17:24 |
nkinkade | If they try to take it down again, I'm going to have to call them and tell them to just stop for the day. | 17:24 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Yes, and it showed 4 modules, but the OS wasn't seeing it. | 17:24 |
* paulproteus nods | 17:24 | |
paulproteus | My laptop does the same thing. | 17:24 |
paulproteus | I have done no debugging of it. | 17:24 |
paulproteus | At least, I never ran dmidecode, but I trust Lenovo really did put 4GB in and "free" shows 3. | 17:24 |
nkinkade | I imagine that they are trying to figure this out, by taking the machine down and moving the memory around to diff. slots, and perhaps fiddling with some BIOS settings. | 17:25 |
nkinkade | I wonder if this issue and the page allocation failures could be somehow related. | 17:26 |
nkinkade | Maybe there's some hardware issue on the machine? I can't imagine that the OS is broken, since it's supposed to be an identical install to the other machines. | 17:26 |
* paulproteus nods | 17:29 | |
nkinkade | Oh, heavens, there goes a7 again. I'm going to call them. | 17:33 |
paulproteus | Heavens to Betsy! | 17:37 |
nkinkade | Jimminy Christmas! | 17:38 |
greg-g | I thought he was a cricket? | 17:41 |
nathany | greg-g: it's polite short hand for "Jesus Fucking Christ!" | 17:42 |
greg-g | I just alwasy said "Jimminy Cricket!" | 17:42 |
greg-g | but yes, let it all out | 17:43 |
nkinkade | That, and he was cricket before he started working at Server Beach's San Antonio datacenter as a technician. | 17:43 |
greg-g | heh | 17:43 |
nkinkade | And now he's just a bug. | 17:43 |
nkinkade | Oh, lookey. a7 is back up and with 4G of memory. | 17:44 |
nkinkade | I take back those things I said before. | 17:44 |
nkinkade | But only half of them because the machine was down for a long time ... maybe I only take back 7/32 of what I said. | 17:44 |
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paulproteus | "Never, ever, I found something so fucked up like trac. It worked like a charm for about 1 year and after a simple upgrade it started eating memory like a hungry hog. (And no, I don't think an Ubuntu release will ever be named "hungry hog" so we should be pretty safe on the TM side here.)" -- http://www.initd.org/tracker/pysqlite/ | 18:44 |
paulproteus | That's where the pysqlite bug tracker should be. | 18:44 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Did you upgrade to qtextended 4.4.1? | 18:52 |
paulproteus | I haven't yet. | 18:52 |
paulproteus | Basically no good reason I haven't yet other than trying to juggle life, organizing the SFC conference, and this here work thing. (-: | 18:53 |
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nkinkade | I can accept that. | 18:53 |
paulproteus | Oh, and IRC. | 18:54 |
nkinkade | It does bring in the most basic GPS functionality, a browser, and screen rotation. | 18:54 |
paulproteus | Oh, nice. | 18:54 |
nkinkade | Probably some other fixes too. | 18:54 |
nathany | nkinkade: when you get a chance can you create staging.cc.net in DNS, add a blank vhost/basic config on a9? | 19:03 |
nathany | we're going to need it once we go live | 19:03 |
nkinkade | nathany: Done. | 19:12 |
nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: Is the Content_Directory at the wiki closed to edits? | 19:31 |
m3cr3d1s | hrm .. | 19:31 |
m3cr3d1s | not sure? | 19:31 |
nkinkade | It talks about filling in a name in some box, but there is no box. | 19:31 |
m3cr3d1s | would I know? | 19:31 |
m3cr3d1s | heh | 19:31 |
nkinkade | Who handles that? | 19:31 |
nkinkade | For some reason I thought you were involved with that, sorry. | 19:31 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: Do you know who manages http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Content_Directories | 19:32 |
m3cr3d1s | oh that | 19:32 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah, not my bag | 19:32 |
Bovinity | nkinkade: um, Cameron maybe | 19:33 |
greg-g | who are Fatima and Hinni ? | 19:35 |
greg-g | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/index.php?title=Content_Directories&diff=18793&oldid=18150 | 19:35 |
greg-g | diff between my last edit and the current version | 19:36 |
greg-g | I'm reverting | 19:36 |
greg-g | nkinkade et. al: fixed | 19:37 |
greg-g | that deserves another cup of coffee | 19:38 |
nkinkade | greg-g: Ah, it's you. | 19:38 |
nkinkade | That looks much better. | 19:38 |
greg-g | well, if by "manage" you mean "last person of some sort of authority to edit it" then yes | 19:39 |
nkinkade | So are you just a person of "some sort" of authority? | 19:40 |
greg-g | nkinkade: yeah, I was just going through the various COntent Directories to look for spam, cruft, etc. So I authority to clean it up; I'm the Content Directories janitor. | 19:41 |
greg-g | s/So I authority/So I have authority/ | 19:42 |
nkinkade | Sounds pretty glamorous. | 19:43 |
greg-g | I usually dress up to do it, a black tie affair. | 19:44 |
Bovinity | ooh, classy | 19:45 |
nkinkade | Do you also throw back a shot of Jameson beforehand? | 19:49 |
greg-g | lol | 19:49 |
greg-g | of course | 19:49 |
greg-g | if it is before noon, I put it in my coffee. | 19:49 |
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nkinkade | greg-g: Are those pages locked to prevent editing ever? | 19:58 |
nkinkade | The guy who pointed out the problem is now saying he's getting the error "This page has been locked to prevent editing." | 19:58 |
greg-g | well, he shouldn't be editing the front page, just adding new content directories, first of all | 20:01 |
greg-g | but, I don't believe it is locked or anything | 20:02 |
greg-g | the page is not protected, anyone can edit it, according to the access control information | 20:03 |
greg-g | (when clicking on "Protect" at the bottom of the page) | 20:03 |
greg-g | nkinkade: which page in particular is he getting that error? | 20:03 |
nkinkade | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:AddData/ContentDirectory/Free_Sound_Effects_and_Loops | 20:04 |
nkinkade | greg-g: ^^^ That was the link he gave, but I have no idea if it correct. Maybe he's doing something wrong. | 20:04 |
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greg-g | does it work for you? I can edit that page (ie: add that content directory with that name) | 20:08 |
nkinkade | greg-g: Yeah, I could edit it, but I'm also a sysop. | 20:11 |
nkinkade | Well, I just logged in with my test-user account and it worked fine. I'll get back with him. | 20:13 |
greg-g | ok | 20:15 |
* paulproteus waves | 20:19 | |
* greg-g particles | 20:21 | |
paulproteus | "Totally untested code. It might reformat your C:\ drive and install Windows ME." -- Shawn Pearce on the git list | 20:26 |
paulproteus | ...on a shell script he wrote for inclusion with git | 20:26 |
greg-g | hmm | 20:27 |
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