Tuesday, 2008-10-07

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Sterenhi :)15:02
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nkinkadeSteren: Hi.15:13
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m3cr3d1snkinkade: Steren  hi15:19
m3cr3d1steamspace is sad15:19
m3cr3d1s: /15:19
m3cr3d1sas in down15:19
nkinkadem3cr3d1s: It's getting a RAM upgrade.15:19
nkinkadeBut I can't figure out why it's been down so long.  It shouldn't take more than 2 or 3 minutes to drop a RAM module in a server.15:20
m3cr3d1sheh15:20
nkinkadeWhen they did a5, it was only down for a minute or two.15:20
m3cr3d1swho is they?15:20
nkinkadeServer Beach.15:21
m3cr3d1sbeached whale!15:21
m3cr3d1ssorry15:22
nkinkadeI'm about to have to try to contact them, because it's already been down for 30 minutes, which is totally unacceptable.15:22
m3cr3d1smaybe the guy got lost on the way to the server15:23
nkinkadeThey claim that there's no note from the datacenter that the work has begun.15:30
paulproteusMorning.15:31
nkinkadepaulproteus: Good morning.15:31
paulproteusI slept only 3-4h last night.15:31
paulproteusNot sleeping one night one was one fun thing about Debconf, so hopefully this will re-energize me.15:31
nkinkadeI've never found that not sleeping energizes me.15:32
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paulproteusHow counterintuitive.15:32
nkinkadeOh, how interesting.  Server Beach claimed the data center hadn't begun the work, yet 5 minutes after a call the server comes up and with 1G more memory than it had before.15:35
paulproteusThat's a relief.15:36
m3cr3d1sFANCY THAT15:36
m3cr3d1sheh15:36
paulproteusHeh, m3cr3d1s.15:36
nkinkadeBut there's a missing Gigabyte of memory.15:36
paulproteus....oh.15:36
m3cr3d1show many should it have?15:36
nkinkadeSince when does installing a RAM module take 45 minutes?15:36
paulproteusYou know, at this point I think I'd actually prefer Joi's Lab's henchmen.15:36
nkinkadeI requested 2G additional.15:36
m3cr3d1sor henchwomen15:36
nkinkadeBut free reports only 3024 and it had 2G going into it.15:37
paulproteusm3cr3d1s, Sure, I see henchmen a gender-neutral term.15:37
paulproteusnkinkade, Try "dmidecode" also.15:37
m3cr3d1sjust was thinking -- isn't fumi a henchwoman?15:37
paulproteusYeah, it's really Fumi + Kuri.15:37
m3cr3d1sheh15:37
paulproteusPlus Yuki now, somewhat.15:37
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nkinkadeAnd now a7 just got rebooted by someone ... probably a technician at Server Beach.16:03
nkinkadeThis hasn't been the most graceful memory upgrade.16:03
nkinkadeBut the one on a5 happened so quickly that Nagios didn't even have time to catch it and send an alert.16:03
SterenWhere is hosted the main CC website ?16:04
nkinkadeSteren: It's also with Server Beach, in a datacenter in Los Angeles.16:06
paulproteusAt a company called Server Beach / on a5.creativecommons.org.16:06
nkinkadea7 is in a different datacenter, a datacenter in San Antonio, TX.16:06
Sterenyes my question was more, where in the world :) just to know. And when I work on a8, where am I ?16:06
nkinkadeSteren: You use Ubuntu, right?16:08
nkinkadeTry: mtr a8.creativecommons.org16:08
nkinkadeThe intervening router names are usually intuitive enough that you can determine the location.16:09
nkinkadeBut a8 in San Antonio, TX as well.16:09
Sterennkinkade: well thanks for this, I didn't know "mtr"16:10
nkinkademtr is a neat little tool, much more useful for everyday use than traceroute.16:11
nkinkadeAnd Ubuntu is nice enough to ship mtr with the default install.16:11
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paulproteusWow re: default install.16:14
nathanynkinkade: so a7 is.... fucked?16:21
nkinkadenathany: Fairly.16:28
nkinkadeI'm about to call them, again.16:28
* greg-g is going to the Ubuntu Developer Summit at Google in December16:28
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nkinkadenathany:  I don't know what they are doing.  Apparently they tried to add 2G but only 1 of the 2 was visible.  So the person I just spoke with said something about the looking into that, and the BIOS, and something else ...  In short, they didn't have any useful information.16:34
Bovinitynkinkade: the ask letter mail, that i assume you sent out, is misformatted16:35
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paulproteusWell, nothing to do while a7 is down but get dressed. (-;16:51
nkinkadeIt's back up, but still only showing 3G of memory. :-(16:57
nkinkadeNow it's down again ...17:13
nkinkadeThis is depressing.17:13
paulproteusw00t, a7 responds to pings17:21
paulproteusnkinkade, ^17:21
greg-goh, does a7 host teamspace?17:22
nkinkadeYeah, but it still doesn't show the right amount of memory.17:23
paulproteusDid you check dmidecode?17:24
nkinkadeIf they try to take it down again, I'm going to have to call them and tell them to just stop for the day.17:24
nkinkadepaulproteus: Yes, and it showed 4 modules, but the OS wasn't seeing it.17:24
* paulproteus nods17:24
paulproteusMy laptop does the same thing.17:24
paulproteusI have done no debugging of it.17:24
paulproteusAt least, I never ran dmidecode, but I trust Lenovo really did put 4GB in and "free" shows 3.17:24
nkinkadeI imagine that they are trying to figure this out, by taking the machine down and moving the memory around to diff. slots, and perhaps fiddling with some BIOS settings.17:25
nkinkadeI wonder if this issue and the page allocation failures could be somehow related.17:26
nkinkadeMaybe there's some hardware issue on the machine?  I can't imagine that the OS is broken, since it's supposed to be an identical install to the other machines.17:26
* paulproteus nods17:29
nkinkadeOh, heavens, there goes a7 again.  I'm going to call them.17:33
paulproteusHeavens to Betsy!17:37
nkinkadeJimminy Christmas!17:38
greg-gI thought he was a cricket?17:41
nathanygreg-g: it's polite short hand for "Jesus Fucking Christ!"17:42
greg-gI just alwasy said "Jimminy Cricket!"17:42
greg-gbut yes, let it all out17:43
nkinkadeThat, and he was cricket before he started working at Server Beach's San Antonio datacenter as a technician.17:43
greg-gheh17:43
nkinkadeAnd now he's just a bug.17:43
nkinkadeOh, lookey.  a7 is back up and with 4G of memory.17:44
nkinkadeI take back those things I said before.17:44
nkinkadeBut only half of them because the machine was down for a long time ... maybe I only take back 7/32 of what I said.17:44
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paulproteus"Never, ever, I found something so fucked up like trac. It worked like a charm for about 1 year and after a simple upgrade it started eating memory like a hungry hog. (And no, I don't think an Ubuntu release will ever be named "hungry hog" so we should be pretty safe on the TM side here.)" -- http://www.initd.org/tracker/pysqlite/18:44
paulproteusThat's where the pysqlite bug tracker should be.18:44
nkinkadepaulproteus: Did you upgrade to qtextended 4.4.1?18:52
paulproteusI haven't yet.18:52
paulproteusBasically no good reason I haven't yet other than trying to juggle life, organizing the SFC conference, and this here work thing. (-:18:53
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nkinkadeI can accept that.18:53
paulproteusOh, and IRC.18:54
nkinkadeIt does bring in the most basic GPS functionality, a browser, and screen rotation.18:54
paulproteusOh, nice.18:54
nkinkadeProbably some other fixes too.18:54
nathanynkinkade: when you get a chance can you create staging.cc.net in DNS, add a blank vhost/basic config on a9?19:03
nathanywe're going to need it once we go live19:03
nkinkadenathany: Done.19:12
nkinkadem3cr3d1s: Is the Content_Directory at the wiki closed to edits?19:31
m3cr3d1shrm ..19:31
m3cr3d1snot sure?19:31
nkinkadeIt talks about filling in a name in some box, but there is no box.19:31
m3cr3d1swould I know?19:31
m3cr3d1sheh19:31
nkinkadeWho handles that?19:31
nkinkadeFor some reason I thought you were involved with that, sorry.19:31
nkinkadeBovinity: Do you know who manages http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Content_Directories19:32
m3cr3d1soh that19:32
m3cr3d1syeah, not my bag19:32
Bovinitynkinkade: um, Cameron maybe19:33
greg-gwho are Fatima and Hinni ?19:35
greg-ghttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/index.php?title=Content_Directories&diff=18793&oldid=1815019:35
greg-gdiff between my last edit and the current version19:36
greg-gI'm reverting19:36
greg-gnkinkade et. al: fixed19:37
greg-gthat deserves another cup of coffee19:38
nkinkadegreg-g: Ah, it's you.19:38
nkinkadeThat looks much better.19:38
greg-gwell, if by "manage" you mean "last person of some sort of authority to edit it" then yes19:39
nkinkadeSo are you just a person of "some sort" of authority?19:40
greg-gnkinkade: yeah, I was just going through the various COntent Directories to look for spam, cruft, etc.  So I authority to clean it up; I'm the Content Directories janitor.19:41
greg-gs/So I authority/So I have authority/19:42
nkinkadeSounds pretty glamorous.19:43
greg-gI usually dress up to do it, a black tie affair.19:44
Bovinityooh, classy19:45
nkinkadeDo you also throw back a shot of Jameson beforehand?19:49
greg-glol19:49
greg-gof course19:49
greg-gif it is before noon, I put it in my coffee.19:49
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nkinkadegreg-g: Are those pages locked to prevent editing ever?19:58
nkinkadeThe guy who pointed out the problem is now saying he's getting the error "This page has been locked to prevent editing."19:58
greg-gwell, he shouldn't be editing the front page, just adding new content directories, first of all20:01
greg-gbut, I don't believe it is locked or anything20:02
greg-gthe page is not protected, anyone can edit it, according to the access control information20:03
greg-g(when clicking on "Protect" at the bottom of the page)20:03
greg-gnkinkade: which page in particular is he getting that error?20:03
nkinkadehttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:AddData/ContentDirectory/Free_Sound_Effects_and_Loops20:04
nkinkadegreg-g: ^^^ That was the link he gave, but I have no idea if it correct.  Maybe he's doing something wrong.20:04
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greg-gdoes it work for you? I can edit that page (ie: add that content directory with that name)20:08
nkinkadegreg-g: Yeah, I could edit it, but I'm also a sysop.20:11
nkinkadeWell, I just logged in with my test-user account and it worked fine.  I'll get back with him.20:13
greg-gok20:15
* paulproteus waves20:19
* greg-g particles20:21
paulproteus"Totally untested code.  It might reformat your C:\ drive and install Windows ME." -- Shawn Pearce on the git list20:26
paulproteus...on a shell script he wrote for inclusion with git20:26
greg-ghmm20:27
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