Monday, 2008-10-06

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greg-gnathany: quick y/n question which I'm 98% sure is y: the engineer position is telecommute yes?17:14
nathanygreg-g: i'd prefer on site but will entertain telecommute17:15
nathanythat is, don't let it stop someone, but preference will be given to those who are local or re-locatable17:16
greg-gnathany: ah, gotcha.17:16
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paulproteusnathany, FWIW the problem remains20:10
paulproteusI'll see if I can make a smaller test-case for this...20:11
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Bovinityhttp://vimperator.mozdev.org/20:29
Bovinity:q closes tabs. my life is complete.20:29
nkinkadeBovinity: Since when are you a vim user?21:11
nkinkade:-)21:11
Bovinitynkinkade: since forever :P21:13
nkinkadeSo do you use VIM mode in bash?21:15
nkinkadeOr you some sort of csh person?21:15
Bovinitybash has a vim mode?21:16
nkinkadeOf course ... the default is emacs mode, but you can make bash behave a lot like vi.21:16
nkinkadeset -o vi21:17
Bovinityi let bash get out of the way, but i probably could be way more efficient with it.21:17
nkinkadeI'm a vi{m} user and I'm very comfortable with it, but I've tried vi mode in bash and it messes me up royally, because I'm not used to it.21:17
nkinkadeSeems that I'm some sort of vi-emacs mutt of a user.21:17
nkinkademutt in the dog sense, not the MUA that paulproteus loves so much.21:18
Bovinity;)21:18
Bovinityi used to be a mutt user.21:18
Bovinitythese bash/vi commands could be useful...21:20
nkinkadeYeah, just imagine doing a d$ to delete to the end of the line instead of ctrl-k.21:22
Bovinityahhh. this is weird.21:26
* Bovinity will stick with the emacsulation mode.21:27
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nkinkadeYeah, that was my conclusion some number of years ago, just too hard to break the old emacs-mode habits.21:29
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greg-ghow else do you get a scew out who's head is stripped other than with a drill?21:45
Bovinitygreg-g: buy a Grabit drill bit, it'll let you get it out21:50
Bovinitybut basically, you need a drill21:50
Bovinityif the head of the screw is out far enoguh, a pair of vice grips could work, if you grip the head and turn.21:50
greg-gBovinity: yeah, trying the grips right now21:51
greg-gthe best thing..... this is a screw holding a laptop harddrive in :(21:51
Bovinityoh. a small one huh.21:52
Bovinityoops?21:52
Bovinityis the head completely stripped?21:52
greg-git is in there dang tight21:52
greg-gnot COMPLETELY, but if I try anymore it will be21:52
Bovinityyou could try a bigger screw driver21:52
greg-gdid21:52
Bovinityah21:52
greg-gthe metal's integrity is already passed the point of usefulness21:53
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greg-gYAY!21:56
greg-gnever give up, never give up21:56
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greg-gand as I was putting it back together, I almost used that same screw (it was going in, then stopped when I realized which screw it was)22:08
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nkinkadegreg-g:  So how did you end up getting the screw out?22:35
greg-gvice grips22:35
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greg-gnkinkade: and some positive thinking22:36
nkinkadeGood thing, because extracting a screw that small could have proved difficult.22:36
nkinkadeYou'd have to have a mighty small drill bit and a mighty steady hand.22:37
nkinkadeAnd even then you'd need a mighty small extractor, or "easy-out" as many people call them.22:37
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greg-gnkinkade: yeah, and the joys of metal shards all over the laptop22:46
nkinkadeOh, yeah, those do wonders for circuit boards.22:47
greg-gI was shuddering just thinking about it22:48
paulproteusgreg-g, Ingenious re: almost used the same screw.22:48
greg-gright?22:49
greg-gwould have been awesome22:49
paulproteusI've totally done that.22:49
paulproteusWith a full bag of spare ThinkPad screws nearb.22:49
greg-ghah22:49
greg-gyeah, I added that to my RMA: "some more screws and thermal paste"22:50
greg-gsince I removed the CPU, too, which was suggested by System7622:50
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