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| paulproteus | nkinkade, Hi | 00:35 |
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| paulproteus | Did you ask me something? | 00:35 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Yeah, I have a question. | 00:41 |
| nkinkade | I'm was trying to get the new xt_connlimit module working, but am getting a iptables error "Invalid argument" | 00:42 |
| paulproteus | Sweet. | 00:42 |
| nkinkade | Some research seems to indicate that it's likely related to running a version of iptables that wasn't compiled against the running kernel. | 00:42 |
| nkinkade | I tried using apt-src to rebuild it, but granted I'm somewhat stabbing the dark. | 00:43 |
| paulproteus | Oh, that /usr/sbin/iptables is older than the kernel modules? That's the idea? | 00:43 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: That's what I gathered from some thread I read. | 00:43 |
| paulproteus | URLs? | 00:43 |
| paulproteus | And what commands are you running, exactly? | 00:43 |
| nkinkade | http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3165 | 00:43 |
| nkinkade | And especially here: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/FAQ/netfilter-faq-3.html#ss3.20 | 00:44 |
| nkinkade | And sure enough this shows up in the kernel message buffer: | 00:44 |
| nkinkade | ip_tables: connlimit match: invalid size 32 != 24 | 00:44 |
| paulproteus | What commands are you running, exactly? | 00:45 |
| nkinkade | Which seems to be related to the "structure size" they migth be talking about. | 00:45 |
| paulproteus | Sounds like you should upgrade iptables. | 00:45 |
| paulproteus | Like this guy: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/iptables | 00:45 |
| nkinkade | Here, something like this: | 00:45 |
| paulproteus | If 3.20 at netfilter.org is to be believed, you should install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and rebuild iptables. | 00:46 |
| nkinkade | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --syn -dport 80 -m connlimit -connlimit-above 20 -j REJECT | 00:46 |
| nkinkade | Something of that nature. | 00:46 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I *think* I did that with apt-src. | 00:47 |
| paulproteus | Did you install linux-headers-$(uname -r) first? | 00:47 |
| nkinkade | I installed the kernel headers, etc, and then used apt-src to rebuild. | 00:47 |
| nkinkade | linux-headers-2.6.24-1-amd64, linux-headers-2.6.24-1-common, linux-kbuild-2.6.24 | 00:48 |
| * paulproteus nods | 00:48 | |
| paulproteus | I would try getting iptables from sid (apt-src -bi installing it). | 00:48 |
| nkinkade | And they are all in /usr/src like I expected, then I uninstalled iptables, set apt to use etch for source build, and then did "apt-src -b install iptables" | 00:48 |
| paulproteus | If that solves the issue, great, and if not, just downgrade. | 00:48 |
| nkinkade | So, I just wanted to see if my logic was way off base, or if that path was mostly sensible. | 00:49 |
| paulproteus | I think that logic is very sensible based on this FAQ. | 00:49 |
| paulproteus | In fact: | 00:49 |
| paulproteus | "It is not supposed to happen between vanilla kernel.org kernels. If it does, please inform the netfilter-devel mailinglist." | 00:50 |
| nkinkade | I'll look into trying with sid tomorrow morning. | 00:50 |
| nkinkade | The sid version iptables, that is, but I suspect there will be some dep problems. | 00:50 |
| nkinkade | We'll see. | 00:50 |
| nkinkade | Cool. Thanks. | 00:50 |
| * paulproteus nods | 00:51 | |
| paulproteus | Sure thing. | 00:51 |
| paulproteus | And re-bring your Neo charger tomorrow if possible? I seem to have neglected to come to the office today. (-; | 00:51 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, I brought it today. I'll bring it tomorrow too. | 00:52 |
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| paulproteus | Howdy greg-g. | 05:19 |
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| hdworak | hi | 10:07 |
| hdworak | who is the copyright holder and person responsible for the creativecommons.org layout (logos, layout, CSS, HTML template)? how can I contact this person? I'd like to clone this layout for the validator | 10:09 |
| hdworak | is the HTML template available somewhere? if so, what template system is used in practice? is there a Genshi template for that Web site? | 10:14 |
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| hdworak | what is the license under which the template/CSS/etc. is available? is this the cc-by 3.0 from the footer? | 10:18 |
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| hdworak | paulproteus: do you mind if I put your full name and affilliation in my CV (which is available on-line) as the GSoC 2008 programme mentor? | 10:52 |
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| hdworak | do you know about http://www.cogniview.com/cc-pdf-converter.php ? they seem to endorse Creative Commons | 11:24 |
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| paulproteus | Howdy davidstrauss. | 14:04 |
| davidstrauss | paulproteus: Hi | 14:08 |
| * davidstrauss is in London | 14:08 | |
| davidstrauss | paulproteus: what's up? | 14:08 |
| paulproteus | Why London? | 14:09 |
| davidstrauss | paulproteus: Economist.com | 14:13 |
| paulproteus | The organization, or the contents of the website? | 14:20 |
| paulproteus | Either way, can you say more? | 14:20 |
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| Ekushey | hi jgay! | 15:40 |
| jgay | Ekushey: hello. You'll have to forgive me if I do not remember you. | 15:40 |
| Ekushey | you don't know me :) i get your emails on the fsf mailing list so just wanted to say hello :) | 15:41 |
| Ekushey | nice seeing you here :) | 15:41 |
| jgay | Ekushey: oh, nice, so your the guy that gets those emails! | 15:43 |
| jgay | *you're | 15:43 |
| Ekushey | lol ;) | 15:43 |
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| ContadorFinancei | i need credit card number | 17:42 |
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| paulproteus | I hope he emailed the contact list in the topic. | 18:02 |
| paulproteus | Little did Jen know she made the classic Debian pun, debian/rules! | 18:03 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade: | 18:10 |
| paulproteus | 1. <paulproteus> Little did Jen know she made the classic Debian pun, debian/rules! | 18:10 |
| paulproteus | 2. ash == dash (see packages.debian.org/{ash,dash} ) | 18:10 |
| nkinkade | :-) I didn't even know that pun. | 18:10 |
| seriuz | hello there is somebody speaks Spanish? | 18:11 |
| nkinkade | Ah, I had heard of and used ash before, but dash was a new one to me, other than hearing it in passing. | 18:11 |
| * nkinkade goes to symlink /bin/sh to /bin/dash this very moment. | 18:11 | |
| nkinkade | Hola seriuz. | 18:11 |
| seriuz | hola nkinkade | 18:12 |
| seriuz | de donde eres? | 18:12 |
| nkinkade | Los EEUU. | 18:12 |
| nkinkade | Y tú? | 18:12 |
| paulproteus | De los estados unidos ? | 18:12 |
| seriuz | de mexico | 18:12 |
| nkinkade | Muy bien paulproteus. :-) | 18:12 |
| paulproteus | Yay ! | 18:13 |
| paulproteus | ja ja gracias nkinkade | 18:13 |
| seriuz | no saben donde hay un canl de bankig | 18:13 |
| seriuz | ? | 18:13 |
| nkinkade | seriuz: bankig? | 18:13 |
| paulproteus | seriuz, canal | 18:13 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX79tgB2PVk | 18:13 |
| nkinkade | Acaso estás buscando algo que tiene que ver con tajetas de crédito? | 18:14 |
| paulproteus | Perfeto ! | 18:14 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 18:14 |
| Bovinity | credito cardo? | 18:14 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, "El grillo" | 18:14 |
| Bovinity | pollo grillo | 18:14 |
| Bovinity | loco | 18:14 |
| paulproteus | ja ja ja | 18:14 |
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| Bovinity | nerdo | 18:14 |
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| bassel | hi | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Hi. | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: dash - POSIX-compliant shell | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | Yup. | 18:21 |
| bassel | can I ask a licensing related question here? | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Sure. | 18:21 |
| bassel | thanks nkinkade | 18:21 |
| nkinkade | There may or may not be any lawyers in here, but people can always try to give you an opinion. | 18:22 |
| nkinkade | But I'm glad that you have a question about licenses instead of credit cards. :-) | 18:22 |
| bassel | we made a website called discover Syria, and we have a photographers directory in it which contains photography in it | 18:22 |
| hdworak | hi! | 18:22 |
| hdworak | paulproteus: ^^^^^^^^ (logs) | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, Hi... huh? | 18:23 |
| bassel | here is a direct link to the directory, it's still underconstraction so just have three photographers http://www.discover-syria.com/photograph/ | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | Oh, I see. | 18:23 |
| bassel | it's in Arabic also | 18:23 |
| bassel | will be English soon | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, They're (C) Creative Commons, and the WP template is in our Subversion repository somewhere. | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | There is on Genshi template for it. | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | It's CC by 3.0 as per the footer. | 18:23 |
| bassel | here is an example page of a photographer art work : http://www.discover-syria.com/photographercv/more:2 | 18:23 |
| hdworak | on = also? | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | There is *no* Genshi template, pardon the typo! | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Okay. | 18:24 |
| hdworak | bassel: the pix look nice | 18:24 |
| hdworak | pro photography | 18:24 |
| hdworak | http://www.discover-syria.com/photographers_owned/390.jpg | 18:25 |
| bassel | is there a way to automatically licenses all the photographers photos under CC that to tell that people can't use those photos without writing the photographer name | 18:25 |
| hdworak | on the Web site or in the .jpg themselves? | 18:25 |
| bassel | the .jpg themselves.. | 18:25 |
| hdworak | paulproteus: who is the person responsible for the creativecommons.org layout (logos, layout, CSS, HTML template)? how can I contact this person? I'd like to clone this layout for the validator | 18:26 |
| bassel | photographers authorize as to do that | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, Bovinity | 18:26 |
| hdworak | paulproteus: do you mind if I put your full name and affilliation in my CV (which is available on-line) as the GSoC 2008 programme mentor? | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, And the layout is in svn as a WordPress theme, as I said. | 18:26 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Like I was worried, iptables from lenny and sid won't install because of debhelper dep failure. | 18:26 |
| Bovinity | hi | 18:26 |
| hdworak | Bovinity: hi :) | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, That's fine re: name and affiliation (and email if you like). | 18:26 |
| hdworak | Bovinity: can I clone the layout for the validator? I won't claim any authorship | 18:26 |
| hdworak | paulproteus: thank you! | 18:27 |
| Bovinity | hdworak: that's fine | 18:27 |
| nkinkade | bassel: All of the CC licenses require attribution, so it seems that that would satisfy that requirement. | 18:27 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, Dude, it's CC by 3.0. | 18:27 |
| Bovinity | it's going to validator.cc.org anyway, right | 18:27 |
| hdworak | paulproteus: I think it's nice asking | 18:27 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Yeah, that's the plan. Already it's pretty useful. | 18:27 |
| paulproteus | re validator-dot-cc | 18:27 |
| hdworak | the guys from Kadu.net (authors of Kadu) release their work as free but strongly urge ppl not to port it to Microsoft Windows | 18:27 |
| Bovinity | it's only a questionable issue if it's going to validate.awesome.com | 18:27 |
| Bovinity | but thanks for asking all the same ;) | 18:27 |
| hdworak | Bovinity: why "questionable"? :) | 18:28 |
| Bovinity | it's a cc project using cc resources, so naturally the theme is part of the project | 18:28 |
| hdworak | so is validator | 18:29 |
| hdworak | starting Sep 3rd, it's NOT my project any more | 18:29 |
| Bovinity | "it's a" == "validator" | 18:29 |
| Bovinity | :P | 18:29 |
| hdworak | everyone's welcomed to participate | 18:29 |
| hdworak | I'm not a BDFL | 18:29 |
| bassel | nkinkade: cool, | 18:29 |
| * Bovinity finally cleans up the wp theme to be slightly more xhtml valid. er. speaking of which. | 18:30 | |
| paulproteus | Heh. | 18:30 |
| hdworak | oh yeah | 18:30 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Have you seen this URL: http://creativecommons.org/about/license/ | 18:30 |
| hdworak | but the deeds must be valid xhtml!!! | 18:30 |
| hdworak | it's most representative | 18:30 |
| paulproteus | The deeds will be unchanged, fear not. | 18:30 |
| hdworak | :X | 18:30 |
| Bovinity | steren already fixed the deeds | 18:30 |
| Bovinity | but they aren't rolled out yet, right? | 18:31 |
| bassel | nkinkade: I saw it, but I need a way to convince photographers that their work is copyrighted | 18:31 |
| hdworak | http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcreativecommons.org%2Flicenses%2Fby%2F2.0%2F | 18:31 |
| hdworak | bovinity: probably | 18:31 |
| paulproteus | nathany is working on that roll-out this week. | 18:31 |
| hdworak | paulproteus: just curious: why "unchanged"? it's not legal text | 18:32 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, I mean, Bovinity's work on the WP theme does not affect the deeds. | 18:32 |
| paulproteus | That's all I meant. | 18:32 |
| hdworak | ah :) | 18:32 |
| hdworak | I see | 18:32 |
| bassel | nkinkade: is there a place on cc that tells or prove that some one have a cc license ? | 18:32 |
| nkinkade | bassel: CC licenses are not a replacement or alternative to copyright, they build upon it. | 18:32 |
| hdworak | bassel: http://validator-beta.creativecommons.org/ | 18:33 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Sounds like you are talking about a registry, and that's not something that CC is doing. We don't maintain any user-submitted data like that. | 18:33 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Did you mean http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards ? | 18:33 |
| hdworak | ... | 18:33 |
| bassel | nkinkade: thanks for the validator | 18:34 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: It seems like maybe that was the page I was talking about, but I thought there was another. | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | I'm tempted to get myself a sandwich and a uSD card. | 18:35 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Thank hdworak for the validator-beta! :-) | 18:35 |
| bassel | sorry :) | 18:36 |
| hdworak | lol :) | 18:36 |
| bassel | sure thanks hdworak | 18:36 |
| hdworak | nothing really, glad you like it | 18:36 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Boot_from_SDHC | 18:37 |
| bassel | nkinkade: the reason I thought that you do some kind of that, is http://www.arabcommons.org/, they claim they are related to CC and they list all the work under their licenses | 18:37 |
| nkinkade | You had the right page ... there was just a part of that page about the SDHC issue. | 18:37 |
| bassel | they have a database | 18:37 |
| bassel | here is a page on flicker http://www.flickr.com/photos/hanadi/328217675/ | 18:37 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Got it. You want a uSD? | 18:37 |
| Bovinity | hooray! | 18:38 |
| Bovinity | from 38 errors to 9 errors | 18:38 |
| bassel | http://www.arabcommons.org/?q=ar/node/179 have a link to it | 18:38 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Hmmm. I can't read the page, so I can't tell. :-) | 18:38 |
| nkinkade | bassel: My guess is that they are just linking to some content of theirs that is under a CC license, or something similar. | 18:39 |
| Bovinity | 2! | 18:39 |
| bassel | nkinkade: actually they make people believe them a cc partner or something | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | bassel: It's possible that they are in some way. | 18:41 |
| nkinkade | I seem to recognize the name arabcommons.org | 18:41 |
| nkinkade | But, I not sure about that. | 18:42 |
| bassel | nkinkade: is it ok that they have a form for submitting work to CC http://www.arabcommons.org/?q=ar/flexisearch | 18:42 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Here's one person I know is legitimate: http://www.tawileh.net/anas//?q=ar/taxonomy/term/41/0 | 18:42 |
| nkinkade | http://www.tawileh.net/anas//?q=en/taxonomy/term/41/0 | 18:42 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Nobody can submit work to CC. If they have some sort of submission form, then it's just going to their own site. | 18:43 |
| bassel | nkinkade: thanks for the website they have Arabic also | 18:44 |
| nkinkade | bassel: That person, Anas Tawileh, is working to promote CC in that area. I know that some of the people in our Berlin office have communicated with him. | 18:45 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Let's buy ourselves some nice 8 gig cards from newegg, then, and I'll go get a $10 2GB one at Central Computer. | 18:46 |
| nkinkade | I'm not saying that he's an official CC representative, only that what you see at his site is likely to be credible, but I can't say that with 100% certainty. | 18:46 |
| * paulproteus waffles some more | 18:46 | |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Sounds like a plan. | 18:46 |
| bassel | nkinkade: cool, checking his site now, I want to promote CC in Syria, specially for photography | 18:47 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Where is Anas, Saudi Arabia? | 18:48 |
| nkinkade | bassel: You could try to contact him and see what is doing or has already done. | 18:49 |
| bassel | nkinkade: Anas is in Syria also, will try to reach him | 18:49 |
| nkinkade | bassel: If you can't find a contact on his site just let me know and I can probably get an email address for you. | 18:51 |
| bassel | nkinkade: Thanks, I've got his email anas@tawileh.net | 18:52 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Great. Feel free to drop in here if you have any other questions, or you can email me at nkinkade@creativecommons.org. | 18:53 |
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| bassel | nkinkade: thanks a lot man, I have another question, can I licenses .exe? | 18:56 |
| bassel | it's a 3D virtual gallery | 18:56 |
| bassel | an art gallery | 18:57 |
| nkinkade | bassel: We don't recommend that software be licensed with a CC license: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FFAQ#Can_I_license_software_using_CC_licenses.3F | 18:57 |
| nkinkade | However, there's nothing stopping you from doing, as far as I know. | 18:57 |
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| Bovinity | fixing theme issues is liek working on html mockups, right? :/ | 18:57 |
| nkinkade | But I suppose there may be laws that relate to software and copyright where you are, for example. | 18:58 |
| bassel | nkinkade: it's not a software: http://www.discover-syria.com/en/3dgallery/ | 18:58 |
| nkinkade | bassel: Oh, I though you said .exe (Windows executable). | 18:58 |
| nkinkade | bassel: As long as you are the copyright holder of a work, then you are free to license it under a CC license. | 18:58 |
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| bassel | nkinkade: it's an .exe file that runs a 3D virtual gallery, it's a windows executable that runs a 3D real time render demo scene | 18:59 |
| bassel | sorry for the duplication | 18:59 |
| nkinkade | bassel: I'm not sure, but like I say, if it is a copyrighted work then you should be able to apply a CC license to it, assuming you are the copyright holder. :-) | 19:00 |
| bassel | nkinkade: Thanks a lot again man, I'll apply a CC license on i | 19:01 |
| bassel | it | 19:01 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: do you know if/when steren's fix to the jurisdictions.js is going live? | 19:02 |
| nkinkade | bassel: My pleasure. I hope you and Anas will be able to work together. | 19:03 |
| bassel | nkinkade: hopefully we will do | 19:04 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: I think Nathan might be working on that right now, but I have no idea about an ETA. | 19:04 |
| Bovinity | ah, ok | 19:04 |
| Bovinity | as it stands, that's now the only thing blocking cc.org from validating as xhtml :) | 19:04 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: That's good news. I've raised my voice about validation a couple times before, but nobody seemed to care. | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | Until now ... | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Wait. You haven't committed the changes yet, right? | 19:12 |
| Bovinity | no | 19:12 |
| Bovinity | right? as in i should not right now? | 19:14 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, packages.ubuntu.com/src:iptables | 19:47 |
| paulproteus | The one from Hardy is likely to do you well... | 19:47 |
| paulproteus | (and has debhelper build-dependencies you can deal with) | 19:47 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Thanks. I'll take a look. | 19:48 |
| * hdworak the following is an advertisement: IPv6... IPv6... IPv6... IPv6... | 19:59 | |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Remind me, what's the right magic to do routing for the FreeRunner? | 20:02 |
| nkinkade | iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 | 20:03 |
| nkinkade | # echo "1" /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward | 20:04 |
| nkinkade | oops. put a > in there | 20:04 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: ^^^ | 20:04 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Thanks! | 20:04 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Hmm. I pulles zhone to the front and it registered me with the T-Mobile network | 20:05 |
| paulproteus | That's good (?). | 20:05 |
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| hdworak | bye! :) | 22:27 |
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| Bovinity | nkinkade: http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/Integration+with+Drupal+Ubercart+module | 22:31 |
| Bovinity | COULD IT BE THAT EASY?! :/ | 22:31 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, So long as you *skip* the intermediaries. | 22:32 |
| Bovinity | :( | 22:32 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: iptables v1.4.1.1: Unknown arg `--syn' | 22:35 |
| nkinkade | There's something not right about it, clearly. | 22:35 |
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