Saturday, 2008-06-28

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jibotrejon is a killer MC from staten island and is the 10th member of the wutang clan and http://www.rejon.org/01:15
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hdworakhi01:52
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Ryan933Hey everyone new at this saw a thing on Datline NBC about chatrooms where you can buy credit card numbers wih pins and CVV numbers. Anyone know where I can access any rooms like that??10:57
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jibotmlinksva is Mike Linksvayer and from Creative Commons11:32
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jibotftobia is the other tech intern at Creative Commons and head of RPI Free Culture12:05
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hdworaknkinkade: hi. I've noticed that this GeSHi plug-in for wiki is still pretty buggy14:37
hdworakwhen I enter something like <source lang="foobar">...</source> I get:14:37
hdworakGeSHi Error: GeSHi could not find the language foobar (using path /var/www/wiki.creativecommons.org/www/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi/geshi/geshi/) (code 2)14:37
paulproteushdworak, That sound correct to me.14:38
paulproteusHow is it a bug?14:38
hdworakimho it should not report the full path of the script14:39
paulproteusEh, no big deal.14:39
hdworakhi paulproteus14:39
paulproteusI can see why you might feel that way, but it's not a big deal.14:39
hdworakI've found two bugs in the code I've provided to nathany earlier about RDFa equivalent14:39
hdworakluckily, he had not added the code to the wiki14:40
hdworaknow I'm doing it myself14:40
paulproteusCool.14:40
hdworaksee http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Extend_Metadata#Conclusions for the code14:41
hdworaknow the question is: "man, you've just found two bugs, how do you know it's flawless at the moment?"14:42
nkinkadehdworak: Sorry.  I wasn't watching the channel.14:42
paulproteusI wouldn't worry too much about that.14:42
paulproteusAbout flawlessness.14:42
paulproteusGet running code first, and then we can file bugs.14:42
hdworakand the answer is: I went the smart way and used rdfdiff.py which tests isomorphisms of RDF trees in nt form14:43
paulproteusWell, that is a smart way. (-:14:43
hdworakhttp://inamidst.com/proj/rdf/rdfdiff.py14:43
hdworaknkinkade: n/p14:43
hdworakpaulproteus: you probably know that I'm working on the tests14:43
nkinkadeBut I'm with paulproteus in that I don't mind if people see the full path.14:43
paulproteusYes, I'm just fearful because I don't see the commits.14:43
hdworakthe idea is the following: we have RDF data that we encode in various different ways (deprecated, recommended etc.)14:44
hdworakthe library/tool will extract RDF nt from each of the unit test14:44
hdworakthen we compare the RDF nt of what is extracted with the original RDF nt14:45
hdworakusing this rdfdiff.py to see if we've extracted 100% of the data14:45
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hdworakcommits? n/p14:45
hdworakI've told you I've been at the conference in a remote location14:45
hdworakbut guess what, just after my paper, I've decided to come back home right after14:46
paulproteusOh!14:46
hdworakand I've saved two days14:46
hdworakwhich I'm using atm :)14:46
paulproteus(-:14:46
hdworakI'm ready to commit the code I've right now for the tests14:46
hdworakalthough it's not working as unit tests should be14:46
paulproteusThat's okay.14:46
hdworakbut should give some insight in the process14:46
paulproteusIn fact, if you commit something, I can help you reorganize it into the standard Python nosetests framework. (-:14:46
paulproteusAdmittedly, I'd prefer to wait until Monday to do that.14:47
paulproteusBut that's not *too* far. (-:14:47
hdworakcould you create a libvalidator repo, pls?14:47
paulproteusOkay one sec.14:47
paulproteushdworak, Created14:49
hdworakcool, I just need to recall the git steps14:50
hdworakI'll look at logs14:50
hdworaksec14:50
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paulproteushdworak, code.creativecommons.org has some docs.14:51
paulproteusBut feel free to just ask me.14:51
hdworakno, let's get serious14:51
hdworakyou've shown me this once14:52
hdworaknow let me figure it out14:52
hdworak:)14:52
hdworakit won't take long14:52
hdworakI'm just doing the final testing before the commit14:52
paulproteusCool.14:52
hdworakso I've not started yet14:52
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hdworakok, done15:00
hdworakhttp://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit?p=libvalidator.git;a=blob_plain;f=tests/gentests.py;hb=HEAD15:00
hdworakthe isomorphism check is in the multiline comment at the bottom15:01
hdworakso that's the first part, we've a set of tests, now I'll be writing a parser/extractor of the RDF data (using librdf and alike of course)15:02
hdworakno license stuff yet, just extracting RDF from different means to get that out of the way15:02
hdworakpaulproteus:15:02
paulproteushdworak, Cool. (-:15:03
paulproteushdworak, I think I will re-organize this somewhat on Monday in a separate branch that uses nosetests to run the tests, and we can talk Monday about that.15:03
paulproteusIt would be nice if you add a README or LICENSE file indicating the origin of the files that aren't yours and the license of the files that are.15:04
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hdworakpaulproteus: sure thing, will do; but pls note two things: 1) I've committed a raw working copy 2) the two files that aren't mine (ntriples.py and rdfdiff.py) have no eggs available and do contain license information at the top of each file15:16
paulproteushdworak, I understand re: (2)..15:16
paulproteusI don't see what (1) means.15:17
hdworakthat means I've been working on the code in the same time you've mentioned about the lack of commits15:17
hdworakso I've committed a work in progress15:17
hdworaknot the code that I think that looks like something final15:17
hdworakw/ README/LICENSE nice structure, method names etc.15:18
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paulproteusSure15:18
paulproteusThen maybe you can keep a TODO file up to date, and you can do frequent commits so I have a sense of what you're working on.15:19
hdworakyes, will do; it should have been like that from the very beginning15:19
paulproteusGreat.15:19
hdworakwere it not exams or pre-GSOC commitments I had to fulfil and are now commenced, so that I can focus solely on GSOC15:20
paulproteusExcellent.15:21
hdworak:)15:23
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hdworakpaulproteus: do you think it makes sense to keep a ChangeLog?15:29
paulproteushdworak, Not really, leave that to the commit log messages.15:29
paulproteusMake them high quality, and contain good patches.15:29
hdworakor is there something about git that makes it obsolete?15:29
paulproteusIf you want to do experimental messy commits, create a playground branch and play in there.15:29
paulproteusBut when you're ready, use rebase to create nice commits with nice commit messages.15:30
paulproteusrebase --interactive, that is.15:30
paulproteusThis is a different style of development - write the code, then clean it up - but like revising an essay I think it's worthwhile.15:30
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paulproteusBut since you can re-do commits and so forth, it's very nice.15:34
hdworakI'm trying to determine the license of rdfdiff.py, the author is on IRC, though not responding15:35
davidstrauss_Oh no. paulproteus is talking about git!15:35
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hdworakin contrast to ntriples.py, this file does not contain the license info15:35
hdworakok, got the reply15:41
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jibotjgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay16:03
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hdworakok16:13
hdworakgit owns16:13
hdworakhttp://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit?p=libvalidator.git;a=shortlog;h=HEAD16:13
hdworakok, bbl16:14
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jibotjgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay19:50
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is4Who wants to open a dialog to get: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at_f98qOGY0 CC'd?22:49
is4"Boom De Yada, Boom De Yada!"22:51
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