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| Kento | Excuse me, but does anybody know what font the creative commons logo uses? | 01:36 |
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| hdworak | hi there | 15:05 |
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| paulproteus | Hey hdworak. | 16:14 |
| hdworak | :) | 16:14 |
| paulproteus | Today is a US national holiday, so I won't be too attentive probably. (-: | 16:14 |
| hdworak | well, we have Mother's Day here, but I know it's different in USA | 16:14 |
| hdworak | what holiday do you have today? | 16:15 |
| paulproteus | Memorial Day | 16:15 |
| hdworak | ok | 16:15 |
| hdworak | I'm working on a wiki entry about my project | 16:15 |
| hdworak | I'm learning the wiki markup, but it's pretty straightforward | 16:15 |
| * paulproteus nods | 16:15 | |
| isforinsects | hello all | 16:17 |
| paulproteus | Howdy isforinsects. | 16:19 |
| hdworak | hi isforinsects | 16:23 |
| isforinsects | So what is it you're working on hdworak? | 16:23 |
| hdworak | today or in general? | 16:23 |
| hdworak | :) | 16:23 |
| isforinsects | Today, via wiki-markup? | 16:24 |
| hdworak | well, paulproteus has asked me to document the progress of the project on cc wiki and cc Techblog | 16:25 |
| hdworak | so I've started with the wiki | 16:25 |
| hdworak | I'm writing a separate article dedicated to the project | 16:25 |
| hdworak | the article is going to be linked to "the proposal of the proposal" | 16:26 |
| hdworak | ;) | 16:26 |
| hdworak | I'm quite new to both Wiki markup and WordPress markup/blogging, so that's a new experience to me | 16:26 |
| ankitg | hdworak: Hey Hugo! =) | 16:27 |
| hdworak | hello! :) | 16:27 |
| isforinsects | cc Techblog? | 16:29 |
| hdworak | I believe its http://techblog.creativecommons.org/ | 16:29 |
| hdworak | right | 16:30 |
| paulproteus | Yup. | 16:30 |
| * ankitg needs to sign up for an account there as well ... been sick and away from the comp for the last few days ... | 16:30 | |
| paulproteus | Hey there ankitg. (-: | 16:30 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: Hey ... go sleep, it's a holiday! :) | 16:31 |
| isforinsects | I poke at the CC wiki from time to time, but I haven't ever added anything substantial to it. | 16:31 |
| paulproteus | Eh, it's 2:30 PM (-: | 16:31 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: never a bad time for sleep || code || chocolate or ice-cream ... | 16:31 |
| paulproteus | Good point. (-: | 16:32 |
| ankitg | hdworak: I see no sign-up at the blog ... did you have to drop Nathan an email? | 16:32 |
| paulproteus | ankitg, Yeah, you have to email nkinkade. | 16:33 |
| hdworak | well, I've got an account there | 16:33 |
| * ankitg is Gmailing now ... | 16:33 | |
| hdworak | but it was manually created by the staff | 16:33 |
| paulproteus | ankitg, Tell him the username and email address you want it to store in your profile. | 16:33 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: okie. Will do. | 16:34 |
| ankitg | email sent. | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | ankitg, BTW, feel free to CC: me on any email you send as part of SoC. | 16:39 |
| paulproteus | The more I know about what you're up to, the happier I'm sure I'll be. | 16:39 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, Same goes for you. | 16:39 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: noted. | 16:40 |
| paulproteus | Like if you end up joining some mailing list and asking some tech questions about some tool you're using, I'd love it if I knew what you were up to. (-: | 16:40 |
| hdworak | good idea, roger that | 16:40 |
| * ankitg wonders if my twitter feed helps people know what I am upto ... | 16:42 | |
| paulproteus | I only really use email, but let me take this moment to fix my RSS feed setup. | 16:43 |
| paulproteus | Then I'll read your Twitter by RSS. | 16:43 |
| isforinsects | ah SoC | 16:43 |
| isforinsects | I think I'm going to try to do SoC next year. | 16:43 |
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| ankitg | Oh Great! ... Now i'll have to start being professional about what I tweet ... someone that really matters will be reading ... | 16:45 |
| paulproteus | Puh-lease, don't mistake me for someone who matters. (-: | 16:45 |
| paulproteus | Be your normal self, I understand it's twitter! | 16:45 |
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| ankitg | it takes time for people to get that sarcasm is my language ... not English ... (-: | 16:47 |
| paulproteus | This time I'll keep that in mind. | 16:47 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: point 3 of your email "Email me with what you need to get started" ... I could email it to you, but since you are here ... can I have the data, so I may get started ... please. pretty please? | 16:50 |
| paulproteus | Right, er, good question. | 16:50 |
| paulproteus | So there are some privacy issues I want to resolve. | 16:50 |
| paulproteus | And I don't want to think about them seriously until tomorrow. | 16:51 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: until tomorrow, sure np ... just don't want to keep waiting till say the end of June ... coz I really can't do too much without the data ... | 16:52 |
| paulproteus | ankitg, Remind me your email again? | 16:52 |
| ankitg | smuankit [at] gmail is the one I check most | 16:52 |
| paulproteus | You've got mail, and you can expect an answer by tomorrow. | 16:55 |
| ankitg | sweet, I just got access to the blog as well ... :) | 16:55 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: danke ... | 16:56 |
| ankitg | I would post to the blog now ... except for the fact that it's 6 am here and I have a meeting in a few hours ... and sleeping during the meeting is for some reason frowned upon ... | 16:59 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 16:59 |
| paulproteus | This time zone thing is going to be interesting. | 17:00 |
| ankitg | I'll post soon though ... :) | 17:00 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: so i am to ping u tomorrow again, right? | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | You should ping me daily on IRC until you get that data. | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | But I believe tomorrow I will email you of my own accord to give it to you. | 17:01 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: Just once a day ?? :( | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 17:02 |
| ankitg | okie then ... will check my mail day after tomorrow ... should have something by then ... might not be your tomorrow when it's my tomorrow :) | 17:02 |
| paulproteus | Well, when I say tomorrow I mean 24h from now. | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | But yeah. (-: | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | You can feel free to bug me more often than that. | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | If it gets to be too much, I'll tell you! | 17:03 |
| ankitg | k' ... | 17:03 |
| ankitg | 24 hrs from would be 6 am tomorrow ... please let me sleep? lol ... will check day after ... gives you another afternoon to sort this out as well =) | 17:04 |
| ankitg | or does it ... dh this timezone thing is confusing ... | 17:05 |
| ankitg | anyways I'll check in 24 + maybe 5/6 hours ... | 17:06 |
| hdworak | :) | 17:07 |
| paulproteus | You can go to sleep! (-: | 17:07 |
| paulproteus | I have nothing more to tell you right now. | 17:07 |
| paulproteus | Other than this: | 17:07 |
| paulproteus | Go to sleep! | 17:07 |
| hdworak | lol, we've divided the globe into three time zones | 17:07 |
| hdworak | ankitg: 00:08 here | 17:08 |
| ankitg | nice ... so that's my cue to change to a different channel, I guess ... | 17:08 |
| ankitg | hdworak: I'll be 2.5 hours closer to you in about 9 days ... going to India for a bit =) | 17:09 |
| hdworak | I've never been to Asia | 17:09 |
| hdworak | :) | 17:10 |
| ankitg | hdworak: Asheesh is easy to find on the IRC ... don't believe his email ... if you can match the US timings he's usually here ... | 17:11 |
| hdworak | n/p, I've got his irc chan/mail/jid | 17:12 |
| hdworak | :) | 17:12 |
| hdworak | ok, I've added http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Rewrite_Metadata_Validator/SoC_2008 | 17:12 |
| hdworak | (a little more than a stub) | 17:12 |
| hdworak | plus an infobox with a link here: | 17:13 |
| hdworak | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Rewrite_Metadata_Validator | 17:13 |
| hdworak | anywhere else to link it? | 17:13 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, That's fine for now. | 17:13 |
| hdworak | cool :) | 17:13 |
| paulproteus | Write up your techblog post. | 17:13 |
| hdworak | at first I thought about putting a whole proposal there (at wiki), but it contains a lot of personal (=boring) information, plus self-advertisement, plus promises etc. | 17:14 |
| hdworak | so utterly boring stuff when it comes a wiki article | 17:14 |
| hdworak | synopsis+timeline is worth publishing though | 17:14 |
| hdworak | and I'll add info about the tools that I'm planning to use later this week | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, I also want to be able to have you and me leave the results of our communications/decisions in the wiki. | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | Perfect, like those tools. | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | You're welcome to use that page (or sub pages) as your own bookmark list for help with these tools. | 17:15 |
| hdworak | right | 17:15 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: if hdworak hasn't mentioned it yet ... the timeline says coding starts on the 26th [not the 28th as per your email] ,,, | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | ankitg, Yeah, oops (-: | 17:15 |
| hdworak | it's just that paulproteus uses too much google | 17:16 |
| hdworak | I guess the 2007 timeline was a "I'm feeling lucky" result | 17:16 |
| hdworak | ;) | 17:16 |
| ankitg | ah | 17:16 |
| paulproteus | Makes sense; the 2007 timeline had a lot longer to get its PageRank up. | 17:17 |
| hdworak | ofc | 17:18 |
| ankitg | I just use the GCal version of the timeline =) | 17:18 |
| * ankitg sleeps ... g'day paulproteus ... g'nite hdworak ... | 17:20 | |
| hdworak | I've been reading this "Git from the bottom up" | 17:20 |
| hdworak | ankitg: good night :) | 17:20 |
| paulproteus | Good night, ankitg! | 17:20 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, Great, I hope it has been making sense so far. | 17:20 |
| hdworak | is it so that I can actually add some files there now? | 17:20 |
| hdworak | or my access is restricted as yet? | 17:21 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: mike replied ... :) | 17:21 |
| hdworak | (haven't tested) | 17:21 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: the reply reads "ok" | 17:21 |
| paulproteus | ankitg, I'm not talking to you until you've gone to sleep. | 17:21 |
| paulproteus | (Just saw it) | 17:21 |
| ankitg | paulproteus: don't talk to me till I sleep ... but give me the data before I sleep ?? :D | 17:22 |
| paulproteus | Mum's the word. | 17:22 |
| ankitg | you don't have to say anything ... and no one needs to know ... | 17:22 |
| * ankitg pretends to sleep with one eye on the inbox count ... | 17:23 | |
| paulproteus | ankitg, I promise, you'll get nothing from me. | 17:23 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, You can commit to a repository called validator right now. | 17:23 |
| * ankitg sleeps in the hopes of finding something cool in his mailbox tomorrow ... | 17:24 | |
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| hdworak | fine | 17:34 |
| hdworak | but this is just a repository | 17:34 |
| hdworak | is there any Web server-type sandbox available? | 17:34 |
| hdworak | http://validator-sandbox.creativecommons.org/ or so? | 17:35 |
| hdworak | are you planning anything like that? | 17:35 |
| hdworak | or am I doing all the work/tests on localhost and upload the source code via git | 17:35 |
| hdworak | and we put that working on-line in August? | 17:35 |
| paulproteus | hdworak, I'm fine either way. | 17:36 |
| paulproteus | Actually, I prefer it the validator-sandbox.creativecommons.org way now that you mention it. | 17:37 |
| hdworak | what's the purpose of keeping now-defunct validator.creativecommons.org now? | 17:37 |
| hdworak | aside of sentimental reasons | 17:37 |
| hdworak | ofc | 17:37 |
| paulproteus | Well, IMHO we should leave the "offline while we retool it" message up until we have a validator that can replace it. | 17:37 |
| paulproteus | Even a beta one. | 17:38 |
| paulproteus | But not one that gives Error 500 and Python stack traces all the time. (-; | 17:38 |
| hdworak | yeah, that's pretty much confusing | 17:38 |
| hdworak | well, one could think of a Pidgin's Web site-like simplicity for the front page | 17:39 |
| hdworak | (for the time being) | 17:39 |
| hdworak | saying it's under development | 17:39 |
| hdworak | or whatever | 17:39 |
| hdworak | and then a link to | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | For now, I think, let's not touch validator.creativecommons.org right now, and I can give you space at validator-sandbox.creativecommons.org. | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | Once you have some code actually running in the sandbox we could add a link to validator-dot to validator-sandbox-dot. | 17:40 |
| hdworak | http://validator.creativecommons.org/dev/ or something | 17:40 |
| hdworak | or /sandbox/ I dunno | 17:40 |
| paulproteus | For now, I think the separate subdomain will be easier to manage. | 17:41 |
| hdworak | ok, I'll Disallow all in robots.txt | 17:41 |
| hdworak | so it's not indexed | 17:41 |
| hdworak | but pls, could it be something shorter? :D | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | In fact, btw, you'll find it very easy to develop on localhost. | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | validator-dev then? | 17:41 |
| hdworak | like box.creativecommons.org or dev.creativecommons.org | 17:42 |
| hdworak | whatever :) | 17:42 |
| hdworak | well, I do develop Web applications on a laptop localhost | 17:42 |
| hdworak | I'm not uploading to see the results | 17:42 |
| hdworak | though making a first test at the end of August on the target machine ain't a good solution imho | 17:43 |
| hdworak | a first=the first | 17:43 |
| paulproteus | Well let me put it this way then - let's leave it off the web for now, and once there is code worth putting on the web let's have this discussion? | 17:43 |
| paulproteus | We can try to put this into the timeline even. | 17:43 |
| paulproteus | I agree that the deployment story will be important. | 17:43 |
| hdworak | no problem at all, paulproteus | 17:43 |
| paulproteus | But you should learn Pylons and all these things first. I have some good ideas about deployment since my other big CC project is also a Pylons project. | 17:43 |
| hdworak | I'm not planning a cc takeover | 17:44 |
| hdworak | :D | 17:44 |
| paulproteus | Oh, I know (-: | 17:44 |
| hdworak | ok, the first week is just it | 17:45 |
| hdworak | pylons+git+some seriously dummy application (output the input or something) | 17:45 |
| hdworak | some=a | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | Actually let's make the dummy application "output the input" inside a div, with proper HTML or XHTML escaping. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | (Genshi should make that trivial, but I still want to see it.) | 17:46 |
| hdworak | I won't sign a code that is not well-formed and valid with my surname, don't worry | 17:47 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 17:47 |
| hdworak | the only time I go below XHTML 1.1 is when I use a third-party WYSIWYG/WYSIWYM editor which of course is not written in a standards-compliant fashion (although the code such editors output may be valid XHTML 1.1 at times) | 17:49 |
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| hdworak | ok | 18:40 |
| hdworak | I've written a post at techblog | 18:41 |
| hdworak | I hope it's ok | 18:42 |
| hdworak | anyway, I'll be back tomorrow :) | 18:44 |
| hdworak | c'ya | 18:44 |
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| ryanakca | Where could I find a LaTeX version of the cc-by-sa license? | 20:35 |
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