Friday, 2008-04-25

*** greg-g has quit IRC00:03
*** rejon has quit IRC00:22
*** rejon has joined #cc00:41
*** Ge-AwAy is now known as Genius01:23
*** Genius is now known as Gen|us01:23
*** rohitj has quit IRC01:48
*** sama has joined #cc01:59
*** rejon has quit IRC02:15
*** rejon has joined #cc02:28
*** sama has quit IRC02:32
*** sama has joined #cc02:34
*** ziimp has quit IRC02:41
*** sama has quit IRC02:42
*** ziimp has joined #cc02:43
*** sama has joined #cc02:45
*** poningru has quit IRC02:50
*** sama has quit IRC02:53
*** sama has joined #cc02:56
*** poningru has joined #cc02:58
*** sama has quit IRC03:04
*** sama has joined #cc03:07
*** sama has quit IRC03:15
*** sama has joined #cc03:18
*** sama has quit IRC03:26
*** sama has joined #cc03:29
*** sama has quit IRC03:32
*** sama has joined #cc03:41
*** sama has quit IRC03:48
*** sama has joined #cc03:51
*** sama has quit IRC03:59
*** sama has joined #cc04:02
*** rejon has quit IRC04:04
*** sama has quit IRC04:11
*** sama has joined #cc04:25
*** devilsadvocate has quit IRC04:33
*** devilsadvocate has joined #cc04:33
*** devilsadvocate has quit IRC04:56
*** bheekling has quit IRC05:05
*** bheekling has joined #cc05:57
*** Gen|us has quit IRC06:35
*** Gen|us has joined #cc06:35
*** Gen|us has quit IRC06:39
*** Gen|us has joined #cc06:42
*** Gen|us has quit IRC06:48
*** Gen|us has joined #cc06:48
*** Gen|us is now known as Ge-AwAy06:50
*** Ge-AwAy has quit IRC06:52
*** Ge-AwAy has joined #cc06:53
*** Ge-AwAy has quit IRC06:57
*** Ge-AwAy has joined #cc07:05
*** Ge-AwAy has quit IRC07:09
*** Ge-AwAy has joined #cc07:09
*** Ge-AwAy has quit IRC07:13
*** Ge-AwAy has joined #cc07:13
*** Ge-AwAy has quit IRC07:17
*** Ge-AwAy has joined #cc07:18
*** greg-g has joined #cc07:21
*** Ge-AwAy has quit IRC07:22
*** Ge-AwAy has joined #cc07:22
*** poningru has quit IRC08:03
*** poningru has joined #cc08:06
*** rejon has joined #cc08:06
*** Luke_ has quit IRC08:44
*** mib_9mw1pp9t has joined #cc09:16
*** mib_9mw1pp9t is now known as Tritonio09:17
*** Tritonio has quit IRC09:19
*** nathany has joined #cc09:41
*** rohitj has joined #cc10:59
*** Yaco has quit IRC11:01
*** Yaco has joined #cc11:03
*** Bovinity has joined #cc11:26
*** benz_ has joined #cc11:38
*** sama has quit IRC11:39
*** rohitj has quit IRC11:42
*** nkinkade has joined #cc11:50
*** bheekling has quit IRC12:12
*** BobChao has joined #cc12:15
*** poningru has quit IRC12:18
*** bheekling has joined #cc12:21
*** Mihai`` has joined #cc12:25
Mihai``hello12:25
*** poningru has joined #cc12:26
*** tvol has joined #CC12:42
*** ankitg has joined #cc12:51
*** rohitj has joined #cc12:54
nkinkadepaulproteus: Are you here by chance?13:09
nkinkadeI thought not.13:09
*** benz_ has quit IRC13:20
*** miamiphp has joined #cc13:52
*** Mihai`` has quit IRC15:17
*** conley has joined #CC15:18
rohitji sent bluehost the complete list of the cc songs I had, with link to the source page and link to license15:19
rohitjthey still are not ready to listen15:19
rohitjI called them, and they said they will not allow any type of copyrighted material on their server15:19
bheeklingrohitj, whom did you speak to?15:19
rohitjwhosoever was on phone15:20
bheeklingrohitj, ask to speak to someone higher up15:20
rohitjyeah, I should have asked for manager or someone15:20
Bovinityrohitj: "any type of copyrighted material"? so what *can* you put on their servers?15:21
Bovinityeverything has to be public domain?15:21
rohitjBovinity: surprisingly this is what they said.15:21
bheeklingSo, basically, unless you *own* the copyright, you can't put anything on their servers15:22
rohitjand if they ask you have to give them a proof that you own the copyright15:23
bheeklingSo, basically, everyone using their servers is violating their ToS15:23
rohitjI wonder how I prove that I made a file15:23
bheeklingYou can't15:23
rohitjthere ToS doesn't say that15:23
rohitjthere ToS *doesn't* say that15:23
rohitj*their15:23
rohitjthough their ToS gives them complete permission to whatever they want to do15:24
bheeklingrohitj, that's standard in almost every ToS15:24
bheeklingYou will find better luck with a person higher-up15:24
conleyhigher up where?  in bluehost?15:25
conleySince rohit is indian, could he call the BBB?15:25
conleyor would he not be able to?15:25
conleyor rather, in india15:26
rohitjconley: BBB?15:26
conleyBetter Business Bureau15:26
rohitjconley: I think bheekling meant higher up in bluehost15:26
rohitjI do not know about BBB,15:27
conleybut how are you going to get higher up in bluehost15:27
conleyBBB is a US org that resolves conflicts between businesses and consumers15:27
conleyI'm not sure if they'd help someone in India using a US business15:27
rohitjby higher he meant that I should call bluehost again and should ask them to let me talk to someone at higher level15:28
conleyyea, I know15:28
rohitjhmm, they probably wouldn't15:28
*** Danny_B has quit IRC15:29
*** poningru has quit IRC15:45
*** Danny_B has joined #cc15:48
*** poningru has joined #cc15:49
*** rohitj has quit IRC15:56
nkinkadeBovinity: Do you recall ever having made any mods to anything in skins/common on the wiki?16:04
Bovinityno16:05
Bovinityi've never made any mods to that16:05
nkinkadenathany: Did you ever make any changes to skins/common on the wiki, by chance?16:05
nathanyrecently?16:06
nkinkadeI just did an upgrade and we've got some conflicts but they are almost all in skins/common16:06
nathanyoh16:06
nathanyhrm16:06
nathanyno, nothing i can think of16:06
nkinkadeSome pretty substantial changes.16:06
Bovinitytheirry perhaps?16:06
nathanycould be16:06
nkinkadePerhaps, Thierry did them, but there are no comments.16:06
nkinkade<bad comma after perhaps>16:07
nkinkadeI'm tempted to review them manually and unless something is obvious to just leave them out ... that is let the file be as MediaWiki wants it to be, if we notice reduced functionality, then I can review them further.16:07
nkinkadeSound reasonable?16:08
nathanysounds fine with me16:08
nkinkadeCool.16:08
nkinkadeOh, and I'm moving them to 1.12.0, if you were wondering.16:08
nathanyok16:08
*** stevel has joined #cc16:14
*** rohitj has joined #cc16:33
*** poningru has quit IRC17:16
*** poningru has joined #cc17:19
*** nathany has quit IRC17:32
rohitjcan you guys suggest a good web host? a host who doesn't look into my files without getting any notice. A host who will not pull down my site without even getting getting any notice from any authority.17:33
*** poningru has quit IRC17:40
Bovinitydreamhost17:49
rohitjBovinity: you sure?17:50
rohitjdont want to feel pissed off again :|17:51
Bovinitythey have good customer support, and i've been using them for years with no hassle17:55
Bovinitythey occasionally have performance issues, but ntohing major recently17:55
*** poningru has joined #cc17:57
rohitjI am no more concerned about performance, its all about that I shouldnt be kicked if I keep cc music on my site17:57
rohitjor any other thing which i can illegally keep17:58
*** tvol has quit IRC18:00
Bovinityyeah, they won't do that18:05
nkinkaderohitj:  For what it's worth, I too have a Dreamhost account.  I have been pretty happy with it overall, but like Bovinity said, sometimes it's pretty slow.  I think they hugely overload their shared-hosting servers.  But, hey, for $9.95/mo you can't ask for much more.18:15
nkinkadeI was also nicely surprised to see that with that account you even get 1 free domain name registration.  Not much, but at least worth $10 - $2018:16
nkinkadeThe account is essentially a shell account, so I can do everything via SSH like I'm used to.18:17
*** tvol has joined #CC18:20
Bovinitythey used to be really bad at overselling, but they've stopped doing it so much now18:21
*** poningru has quit IRC18:36
rohitjkewl18:38
rohitji shall be considering dreamhost .... one thing that attracts me is that i can jabber on it as well  :)18:38
rohitj*can run18:38
*** poningru has joined #cc19:13
*** Bovinity has quit IRC19:16
*** poningru has quit IRC19:34
*** poningru has joined #cc19:56
*** Matson has joined #cc19:57
*** nkinkade has left #cc19:59
*** rejon has quit IRC20:05
*** stevel has quit IRC20:10
*** rejon has joined #cc20:53
*** poningru has quit IRC20:53
*** BobChao has quit IRC20:57
*** tvol has quit IRC20:58
*** tvol has joined #CC20:59
*** poningru has joined #cc21:08
*** rejon has quit IRC21:27
*** ankitg has quit IRC21:32
*** tvol has quit IRC21:34
*** ankitg has joined #cc21:34
*** BobChao has joined #cc21:47
*** Matson has left #cc21:53
*** rejon has joined #cc21:57
*** BobChao has left #cc22:51
*** poningru has quit IRC23:00
*** poningru has joined #cc23:01
*** rohitj has quit IRC23:14
*** poningru has quit IRC23:26
*** stevel has joined #cc23:26
*** poningru has joined #cc23:29
*** rejon has quit IRC23:44
*** poningru has quit IRC23:50
*** poningru has joined #cc23:50

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.6 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!