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| tehnik_ | hi | 01:00 |
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| tehnik_ | should I call unregister_chrdev_region() to unregister allocated ranges of device numbers by alloc_chrdev_region() or not? | 01:01 |
| paulproteus | tehnik_, ##c | 01:01 |
| tehnik_ | parkerhiggins, I don't think there is a chanell #c_linux_kernel_programming on this server... | 01:02 |
| paulproteus | tehnik_, #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net | 01:02 |
| paulproteus | or ##linux | 01:02 |
| tehnik_ | ok. thanks | 01:03 |
| parkerhiggins | why do i keep getting your messages, paulproteus? | 01:03 |
| paulproteus | parkerhiggins, Because people press tab too soon. | 01:03 |
| paulproteus | The messages are sent the whole channel. | 01:03 |
| parkerhiggins | i know, but they have my name in them :) | 01:03 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, people type "p" or "pa" and hit tab and then it autocompletes. | 01:04 |
| parkerhiggins | you do a lot more irc than me, paulproteus. it's a thrill to see the bouncing icon with the new message, only to find out it was meant for you. | 01:04 |
| paulproteus | Aww. )-: | 01:04 |
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| hdworak | hi | 05:30 |
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| coskund | hi | 09:50 |
| coskund | cc pls | 09:52 |
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| chrisadams | hi everyone - I almost feel silly saying this, but I've had a quick check on the wiki, and I can't quite find what I need | 11:04 |
| chrisadams | i want to credit an image with the following license - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/ | 11:04 |
| chrisadams | with copyright, I'll usually just to write "copyright $owner | 11:05 |
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| chrisadams | but for a cc-by-na licence, like http://xkcd.com/license.html | 11:05 |
| chrisadams | what symbol can you use for brevity? | 11:06 |
| montagg | I occasionally use CC Flickr photos in my blog. I just credit the photo at the bottom of the post, "Photo / username photoname CC LI-CEN-SE." You don't always have to use a graphic. | 11:07 |
| montagg | Not sure if that helps answer your question. | 11:07 |
| chrisadams | montagg: that does | 11:08 |
| chrisadams | thanks | 11:08 |
| chrisadams | actually, a little more trawling drew this up - http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Marking_Image | 11:08 |
| montagg | chrisadams: Looks good to me. Either should do. I think most people understand good-faith attempts to mark work, so you can do whatever make sense usually. | 11:11 |
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| chrisadams | suite | 11:39 |
| chrisadams | thanks for the help | 11:39 |
| chrisadams | have a good weekend! | 11:39 |
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| hdworak | I'm getting "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" when asking tips@fbi.gov about credit cards | 12:19 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, What's the principled way to search for a by_code() argument? | 13:50 |
| nathany | search for it in the RDF? | 13:50 |
| paulproteus | The RDF doesn't have "code"s. | 13:50 |
| paulproteus | That is to say, if they ask for "publicdomain", should I search for a license with URI (cc).org/licenses/publicdomain/? | 13:50 |
| nathany | right | 13:50 |
| nathany | yeah | 13:50 |
| nathany | i think that we assume this is CC specific for now | 13:50 |
| nathany | we may add "codes" when we also add "classes" to the metadata | 13:51 |
| nathany | but for now you can look for cc.org/[code]/[version]/[jurisdiction] | 13:51 |
| paulproteus | So if they ask for by-sa, then I have to issue a query to see what licenses have URIs that match the pattern "http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/*" ? | 13:52 |
| paulproteus | And then pick the best one to return? | 13:52 |
| paulproteus | Or should I generate the string "http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/" + (my knowledge of what the latest version is) + "/" ? | 13:52 |
| paulproteus | Do you see why I feel this isn't very clean? | 13:52 |
| paulproteus | I'd *much* rather be able to query for a list of licenses with (code = "by-sa") and then pick the best match of those and return that as the winner. | 13:53 |
| paulproteus | But now I have to do string pattern matching across the list of license URIs. | 13:53 |
| paulproteus | I think we should start enriching the RDF sooner rather than later, if we really want to go down this RDF-based cc.license route. I can hack around it for some time, but enriching the RDF seems fairly straightforward. | 14:00 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: i concur; will send email to ML, you outlining my idea for enriching it | 14:20 |
| nathany | if no objections, we'll do it | 14:20 |
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| paulproteus | Great, I'm nearly done with the pd "selector". | 14:20 |
| paulproteus | If you want to see some code involving your mom, do git pull and then read cc/license/tests/test_license_pd.py . | 14:26 |
| paulproteus | nathany, More seriously, what's the zope.interface ism for testing that a class successfully implements the interface (i.e., does class method argument checking, makes sure that an instance has the right attributes)? | 14:29 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: i actually don't think there is one | 14:30 |
| nathany | the zope.interface approach seems to be very pythonic -- "we're all consenting adults" | 14:31 |
| paulproteus | "which is why I will now dig deep into your private bits and tell you what I think of you" | 14:31 |
| nathany | lol | 14:31 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, SYN | 15:30 |
| nathany | ACK | 15:30 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Do me a favor and git pull on cc.license? | 15:30 |
| nathany | ok | 15:30 |
| paulproteus | Actually, I just wanted you to see that ("right now"), I don't use SPARQL, just pattern-matching queries. | 15:30 |
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| nathany | ok... | 15:31 |
| paulproteus | And secondly that I like them more than SPARQL (for the simple queries I'm doing). | 15:31 |
| paulproteus | You just wrote that I use RDF/SPARQL in that email, and it's not very true. (-: | 15:31 |
| nathany | i'm going to go out on a limb and say pattern matching is probably faster, too | 15:31 |
| nathany | (or matching + traversal) | 15:31 |
| nathany | ok, i'll correct | 15:31 |
| paulproteus | Agreed, but performance isn't the reason I'm doing it this way. | 15:31 |
| paulproteus | The queries look really nice and tidy. | 15:31 |
| paulproteus | You should look at publicdomain.py to see what I mean. | 15:32 |
| paulproteus | Hmm, that and cc/license/jurisdiction.py I guess. | 15:32 |
| nathany | right | 15:33 |
| nathany | btw which rdf bindings are you using? | 15:33 |
| nathany | i don't see a dependency in setup.py | 15:33 |
| paulproteus | "import RDF" (librdf) | 15:33 |
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| nathany | ok | 15:33 |
| paulproteus | I'm not using it via eggs, but via system package. | 15:33 |
| nathany | iirc those can't be installed via distutils (sigh) | 15:33 |
| paulproteus | I should naturally jam it into the install_requires. | 15:33 |
| paulproteus | Oh, yay! | 15:33 |
| nathany | heh | 15:33 |
| nathany | but we can probably use the CMMI recipe to build them if needed | 15:34 |
| paulproteus | You can think about that. | 15:34 |
| nathany | not necessary for the time being | 15:34 |
| nathany | right | 15:34 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to finish sampling. | 15:34 |
| nathany | great | 15:34 |
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| mecredis | paulproteus: native SPARQL queries via RAP are in the new trunk of SMW | 21:58 |
| mecredis | Markus just told me himself | 21:58 |
| mecredis | http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:SPARQL_endpoint | 21:58 |
| mecredis | :) | 21:58 |
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| mecredis | yeah" | 21:59 |
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