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| paulproteus | nathany, I'm going to chill at home until 11 or so. | 11:51 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: ok | 11:51 |
| nathany | paulproteus: Bovinity: any experience doing screencasts on Linux? | 11:56 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Yeah, it has always sucked for me. | 11:56 |
| paulproteus | I've used xvidcap, which might suck a little less these days. | 11:57 |
| paulproteus | There's the GNOME app, too, which for a year seemed on the edge of not sucking; maybe by now it doesn't. | 11:57 |
| nathany | paulproteus: if it sucks less, it's not by much | 11:57 |
| paulproteus | What's it called... | 11:57 |
| Bovinity | i remember there was one gnome app that worked by taking a bunch of screenshots and dumpign an animated gif. | 11:58 |
| Bovinity | "Istanbul" may or may not be what i'm thinking of. regardless, it is a screencast tool. | 11:59 |
| paulproteus | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts suggests xvidcap. | 11:59 |
| Bovinity | http://recordmydesktop.iovar.org/about.php | 12:00 |
| paulproteus | This looks sane, perhaps. | 12:02 |
| paulproteus | Istanbul is what I'm thinking of. | 12:02 |
| paulproteus | Last I saw it didn't make anigifs but a real video. | 12:02 |
| paulproteus | Recommended at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting , but I like the look of recordmydesktop better. | 12:03 |
| nathany | Thanks | 12:03 |
| Bovinity | vnc2swf | 12:03 |
| nathany | I had seen the ubuntu wiki page, but its recommendations resulted in... crap | 12:03 |
| Bovinity | ah, Byzanz was that anigif one | 12:03 |
| nathany | Bovinity: OMG, there's a Funplex Remix EP w/ remixes by Scissor Sisters and Peaches | 12:04 |
| Bovinity | ooh | 12:04 |
| nathany | i sort of love the Amazon MP3 store | 12:05 |
| Bovinity | the funplex releases are also drm free on itunes | 12:06 |
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| rejon | yah, i've done | 12:14 |
| rejon | search my blog... | 12:14 |
| rejon | on screencasts | 12:14 |
| rejon | vnc2swf is great along with x11vnc | 12:14 |
| rejon | blarp...night | 12:15 |
| paulproteus | nathany, I fixed PdfLicenseManager in trunk and added a Makefile. | 12:15 |
| paulproteus | Among other things, I need to figure out what sort of binary distribution people want. | 12:16 |
| paulproteus | "Fixed" used lightly, of course, given the quality of that code. But I changed the namespace, is what I mean. | 12:16 |
| nathany | paulproteus: great | 12:16 |
| nathany | binary distribution? | 12:16 |
| nathany | wouldn't they just want a .jar at most? | 12:16 |
| paulproteus | It looks like a zip file of the *.java and the *.class files is what used to be offered. | 12:16 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, a jar might be useful, except I don't think that used to be how things were distributed, and I never learned how to make one. | 12:17 |
| paulproteus | Guess I'll read up on archive.org the old website for this thing. | 12:19 |
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| paulproteus | Howdy doody, nkinkade. | 12:20 |
| paulproteus | Hmm, no archive.org cache. | 12:21 |
| nkinkade | Hi paulproteus. | 12:21 |
| paulproteus | (There is one, but it's too recent to be any use.) | 12:21 |
| nkinkade | I'm not sure what you are referring to. | 12:22 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Something nathany and I were chatting about. | 12:22 |
| paulproteus | Sorry, didn't mean to confuse. | 12:22 |
| nathany | paulproteus: how "things" were distributed? for java apps? | 12:23 |
| paulproteus | This particular Java app. | 12:23 |
| paulproteus | And its source, and its binaries. | 12:23 |
| nathany | ah | 12:23 |
| nathany | i can't imagine what else he would've done... based on a combination of my knowledge and my perception of the level of code sophistication :) | 12:24 |
| paulproteus | What else? | 12:24 |
| paulproteus | Do you mean you think he did a jar, or you think he did a .java+.class zip file and told people to unzip? | 12:24 |
| paulproteus | I think the latter. | 12:24 |
| nathany | maybe the latter | 12:25 |
| nathany | why not just do a .jar (which is zipped already) and tell people to run | 12:26 |
| nathany | java -jar xxx.jar | 12:26 |
| paulproteus | Sure, I just don't know how. | 12:26 |
| * paulproteus reads | 12:26 | |
| nathany | ack, i hate multimedia on linux | 12:46 |
| nathany | (production, that is) | 12:46 |
| nathany | Bovinity: paulproteus: either of you have a microphone at the office i can use to record an audio track? | 12:48 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Can't you use your USB headset you lent me a few weeks ago? | 12:48 |
| nathany | paulproteus: i could, if it weren't at home :) | 12:49 |
| paulproteus | I do have a regular non-USB headset at home, but it and I are here. | 12:49 |
| Bovinity | nope | 12:49 |
| nathany | paulproteus: 1/8" plugs on it? | 12:49 |
| nathany | if so, would you mind bringing it in if you come to the office today? | 12:49 |
| paulproteus | nathany, I'd be happy to. I'm thinking I might stay at home a little longer, but at some point I'll get dressed and then there'll be nowhere to go but the office. | 12:50 |
| nathany | paulproteus: no worries; if we don't cross paths today i'll bring mine in tomorrow | 12:50 |
| paulproteus | Or I could just walk to your place and find yours. (-; | 12:51 |
| paulproteus | 1/8" - is that "normal computer audio plug" size? | 12:52 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: yes, that's the normal size | 13:04 |
| nathany | nevermind, though; ML had one | 13:04 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 13:04 |
| nathany | (as i still fight with this color balance) | 13:05 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, Please read your mail and actually fix Herder's setup pie. | 13:54 |
| nathany | paulproteus: just saw that | 13:54 |
| nathany | sigh | 13:54 |
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| paulproteus | Hah, duck out on me, I see. | 13:55 |
| nathany_lunch | paulproteus: ;) | 13:55 |
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| Bovinity | nathany_lunch: http://store.muledesign.com/featured/shitty-meeting.php | 14:24 |
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| paulproteus | Boo hiss, nkinkade, can we ditch cthyme yet? | 14:43 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, It's kind of hilarious that you joke about (R) on http://techblog.creativecommons.org/ given the nature of our organization. | 14:52 |
| nathany | lol | 14:52 |
| nathany | :) | 14:52 |
| paulproteus | Do you have our last stand-up photo somewhere? | 14:53 |
| paulproteus | It was for that that I went to the tech blog. | 14:53 |
| paulproteus | 'Cause if I can't work on herder and liblicense is stable enough I forget what to do next. | 14:54 |
| paulproteus | I could ship+blog the JAR I made for that Java thing. | 14:54 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/2dcad349ecb9d423 | 15:05 |
| paulproteus | "In my work, the people is mad" | 15:11 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Hey, wait a sec. | 15:19 |
| paulproteus | You surely have an AuthKit egg lying around. | 15:19 |
| nathany | paulproteus: sent via email | 15:22 |
| * paulproteus nods | 15:22 | |
| nathany | unzip in the eggs directory | 15:22 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 15:22 |
| paulproteus | In a discussion of terminology of Perl heroes vs. saints vs. other words: | 15:33 |
| paulproteus | http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/sanfrancisco-pm/2008-April/001646.html | 15:33 |
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| nkinkade | The versioning WP plugin that we installed months ago for the lawsuit just saved Jane. I had forgot that it was sitting there silently versioning every page/post edit. I just mention it here in case it's ever useful to someone else, and to say that it might be useful for other general users of Wordpress. | 16:37 |
| tvol | nkinkade; good to know | 16:39 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: is that active on learn.cc? i can only assume it is | 16:40 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: it probably is active there, but she was drafting on (cc).org. | 16:40 |
| nkinkade | I think only blog admins can access the versions, and of course it's all dependent on the user having saved it, but Jane had accidentally deleted all but a couple words of a long post and then somehow saved it. It worked nicely for her in this case. | 16:41 |
| nkinkade | I think there's a bug in the plugin, though because when I rolled back to the good version it somehow removed the author, so I had to set the author manually. Maybe that's intentional?? | 16:42 |
| nkinkade | And for anyone interested: $ dig mx @a7.creativecommons.org creativecommons.org | 16:43 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: By the way, iftop is my new favorite utility. | 17:07 |
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| nkinkade | Looks like the name servers from our ISP have already picked up the new MX records. So anything sent from the SF office should go directly to Google and won't bother to pass Go. | 17:09 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: cinelerra blows | 17:16 |
| Bovinity | great to know video editing in linux still sucks :( | 17:17 |
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| nathany | sigh | 17:20 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, Yay! | 18:09 |
| paulproteus | re: iftop | 18:09 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, lol! re: bug in versioning plugin | 18:10 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Hey now. | 18:10 |
| nkinkade | You mentioned it the other day, and I just had occasion to need something a lot like it. | 18:10 |
| paulproteus | It's nice to see how much bandwidth I'm pushing through. | 18:10 |
| nkinkade | And ipkg on OpenWRT is darn nice as well. | 18:10 |
| paulproteus | ipkg is the same thing as the OpenMoko (and other normal embedded Linux setups) use to manage packages. | 18:11 |
| nkinkade | I assumed it was you, paulproteus, who was making the network nearly unusable, but I don't think it was you. | 18:11 |
| paulproteus | (Just as an FYI) | 18:11 |
| paulproteus | Hah, nkinkade! | 18:11 |
| paulproteus | re: iftop: There were a nice few days where seeding the FreeBSD 7 ISOs had me uploading at 2-4 megabytes a second from rose. | 18:11 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: what was the reason for the dodgy network speeds? | 18:11 |
| nkinkade | I always default to pointing an imaginary finger at you. In my book paulproteus is guilty until proven innocent. It's not very just of me, but the mind is a mysterious thing. | 18:12 |
| paulproteus | As is my network usage. | 18:13 |
| nkinkade | I think it might have been nathany. | 18:13 |
| paulproteus | Why wasn't the Wonder Shaper Wonderful for us? | 18:13 |
| nkinkade | I'm not sure, but did you notice the serious slowdowns earlier? | 18:13 |
| paulproteus | Yes, but when I investigated I noticed the wireless network itself was slow. | 18:14 |
| paulproteus | Like pinging 10.0.2.2 from my laptop took 200ms or something nuts. | 18:14 |
| paulproteus | I thought, "Maybe my wireless card has gone nuts," and didn't think twice. | 18:14 |
| paulproteus | That's still possible.... | 18:14 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, it took a long time to connect to 10.0.2.1. Interestingly, the Xerox WorkCentre was generating more traffic than anything when I looked, though still not too too much. | 18:16 |
| Bovinity | maybe all thsoe scans it was trying to upload.... | 18:16 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: What were you doing with the FreeBSD ISOs? | 18:16 |
| paulproteus | I was seeding them on bittorrent on the release day. | 18:18 |
| paulproteus | And I figured, why not also get all the old ones too? | 18:18 |
| paulproteus | And all the architectures? (etc.) | 18:18 |
| nkinkade | But why were you bothering to have anything to do with FreeBSD? Of course, I like the idea, but I haven't really touched FreeBSD for about a year. | 18:19 |
| paulproteus | I don't know, the voice of Slashdot compelled me. | 18:19 |
| paulproteus | In general, it's sad that I have enormous amounts of bandwidth that I'm not putting to good use. | 18:19 |
| paulproteus | (on rose) | 18:19 |
| nkinkade | Put the Debian package management system on FreeBSD and you might have my favorite system. | 18:19 |
| paulproteus | Debian GNU/kFreeBSD | 18:20 |
| * paulproteus runs for the hills | 18:20 | |
| nkinkade | Maybe we can migrate (cc).org. | 18:20 |
| paulproteus | Let's do a test run first somewhere. | 18:20 |
| paulproteus | Maybe your laptop, or my desktop. (-; | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | :) | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | But you see, I don't just want the kernel, but also the filesystem layout and configuration paradigms. | 18:21 |
| paulproteus | cd /usr/nkinkade | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | (Or is it not quite *that* old-school?) | 18:22 |
| Bovinity | wasn't it /usr/home/foo/ ? | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | /usr/ucb/ | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | "I imagine too, that it helps to sell more Solaris boxes if people think they can get "their" version of 'ps' running." <http://www.ozzu.com/unix-linux-forum/diff-between-bin-and-usr-ucb-t48154.html> | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | No it was /usr/home/nkinkade | 18:23 |
| Bovinity | ;) | 18:23 |
| nkinkade | Well, by default, but you can put it anywhere you like, of course. | 18:24 |
| paulproteus | ls -a / | 18:24 |
| paulproteus | .gnome2 | 18:24 |
| paulproteus | .bashrc | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | What I want to know if where my good friend rc.conf when to. | 18:25 |
| paulproteus | You know, I'm kind of resenting how slow svn is now. | 18:26 |
| nkinkade | I suddenly feel to need to write some iambic pentameter about the virtues of rc.conf, or maybe a haiku. | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | Just be sure to CC-license it! | 18:27 |
| nkinkade | oh rc.conf \ simplicity, calm, at rest \ peaceful oh, selah | 18:29 |
| * paulproteus looks this up | 18:31 | |
| paulproteus | Beyond the fact that Selah is a musical term, we know | 18:31 |
| paulproteus | absolutely nothing about it. --Dr. W. Smith | 18:31 |
| nkinkade | /usr/local you maketh me lie down by calm waters, your separation of system and user they comfort me. And yeah though I walk through the valley of Confusion, I will not fear rm -rf /usr/local/* | 18:32 |
| paulproteus | The GNU world has that, at least. | 18:33 |
| paulproteus | You need not mourn it. | 18:33 |
| nkinkade | As far as I know it's still alive and well in FreeBSD. | 18:33 |
| nkinkade | But I've got used to Debian now, and I'm pretty happy. | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | Oh you have *got* to be kidding me. | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | Translation on search.cc.org only works if define("DEBUG", true); is set! | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | In related news, the Solaris kernel ships in debug mode. | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | Compiled in debug mode, that is. | 18:35 |
| Bovinity | you know, i think i set that up a long time ago | 18:35 |
| Bovinity | DEBUG was probably fairly arbitrary | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | Heh. | 18:36 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, I'm cleaning this all up now. | 18:36 |
| paulproteus | // if all else fails set it to the default | 18:36 |
| paulproteus | if (DEBUG) { | 18:36 |
| paulproteus | echo "you suck, going to default<p>"; | 18:36 |
| paulproteus | } | 18:36 |
| paulproteus | I think I wrote those lines. | 18:36 |
| nkinkade | What are you doing with search.(cc).org? | 18:39 |
| paulproteus | Wait a sec. | 18:42 |
| paulproteus | It's just randomly inconsistent? | 18:42 |
| paulproteus | Hmm. | 18:42 |
| paulproteus | Go go gadget nondeterminism. | 18:43 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, I'm (by working on a local checkout) finishing the work Jon did two years ago to enable i18n on search dot CC. | 18:43 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: What's the login path for drupal again? /user/login??? | 18:44 |
| nkinkade | Yup. | 18:44 |
| Bovinity | oui | 18:44 |
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| seanm | hi | 18:50 |
| paulproteus | Howdy. | 18:52 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to enable this search i18n on the live site in a moment. | 18:53 |
| paulproteus | Wish me luck and few explosions! | 18:53 |
| seanm | if i were trying to accomplish in linux: making four programs executing multiple threads sharing the same virtual memory with clone(), do you know how i can create a program that will execute them in different terminals | 18:57 |
| seanm | I am assuming the open() and fork(), but i cna't get it rto work, andy suggestions? | 18:57 |
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| paulproteus | seanm, I think you want ##c. | 19:01 |
| seanm | oh, sorry you are right | 19:02 |
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| paulproteus | No worries. (-: | 19:04 |
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| paulproteus | So close to having i18n search working... | 19:16 |
| paulproteus | Sweet! | 19:18 |
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