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| maveriick | hi everybody | 08:39 |
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| maveriick | I'm interested about the desktop search integration project....Is any other planning on it? | 09:02 |
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| maveriick | Hi nathany | 09:40 |
| nathany | hi maveriick | 09:41 |
| maveriick | I am talking about probable gsoc project - desktop search integration.... | 09:41 |
| nathany | cool | 09:42 |
| nathany | did you email me about that (wrt Spotlight in particular)? | 09:42 |
| maveriick | no ...then any other student planning on that? | 09:42 |
| nathany | i've had one person inquire about it, but don't think there've been any proposals | 09:43 |
| maveriick | I would prefer beagle rather than spotlight for integration .... not a Mac developer/user | 09:45 |
| nathany | great! | 09:45 |
| nathany | that student was asking about the spotlight ideas in particular... and we don't have any work in the beagle area at this time | 09:45 |
| maveriick | I have minor open source experience ....but nothing with CC or search technology .... | 09:47 |
| maveriick | Will that would be a problem? | 09:48 |
| nathany | there's no expectation that you've done CC-ish work before | 09:55 |
| nathany | and anything with beagle will be more indexing than search | 09:55 |
| nathany | just outline what you want to do in your proposal :) | 09:55 |
| maveriick | Can I send a draft proposal to you or the cc mailing list? | 09:58 |
| nathany | sure | 09:58 |
| nathany | cc-devel will get the widest exposure | 09:58 |
| nathany | (and ergo feedback) | 09:58 |
| maveriick | thanks ...hope to try it out soon... | 10:01 |
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| jair_ | Hi, I would like to apply to the google summer of code, and I am interested in the development of the flickr plugin for OpenOffice... where can I get more information? | 11:16 |
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| Bovinity | nkinkade: your svn checkin of bbpress is missing quite a few files | 13:24 |
| Bovinity | such as index.php :/ | 13:24 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: hmm. Let me have a look. | 13:25 |
| Bovinity | does stock bbpress come with an install.php? | 13:25 |
| Bovinity | there's a discrepency of 11 files between svn and a6 | 13:27 |
| nkinkade | Not sure how that happened. I zipped up the whole directory on a6 downloaded it, unpacked and then added whole to my local checkout of cctools and then committed it. | 13:30 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: those other files should be up there now. I'm not 100% sure it missed them the first time?? | 13:58 |
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| nkinkade | I thought subversion would recursively add a directory, so I'm not sure why a few files and a couple random subdirs failed to add. | 13:59 |
| nkinkade | All's well that ends well. | 14:00 |
| meet | hi i am participating in gsoc 2008 | 14:00 |
| paulproteus | Hello meet. | 14:00 |
| meet | hi paul | 14:00 |
| meet | are you a participant or cc member | 14:01 |
| paulproteus | CC staffer | 14:01 |
| meet | than i hope you will help me clear some doubts | 14:01 |
| paulproteus | Great - what are your questions? | 14:01 |
| meet | paul i want to do desktop search integeration | 14:02 |
| meet | athe name is same as the project i did for my course in database management | 14:03 |
| meet | but on studying abou it i encountered many confusions | 14:03 |
| meet | first! where is it to be used? | 14:03 |
| paulproteus | Have you read http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Summer_of_Code_2008 yet, by the way? | 14:04 |
| meet | yes i have definitely | 14:04 |
| paulproteus | It's open source code designed to be merged with the main development of e.g. Beagle or Tracker, the two main desktop search engines that are open source. | 14:04 |
| paulproteus | Or Strigi, or other desktop search engines. | 14:04 |
| paulproteus | Does that answer how it's to be used? | 14:04 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: i'll attempt to bang out the remaining theme issues with bbpress today. | 14:04 |
| meet | ok | 14:05 |
| meet | there has been a lot of mention about it being related to license?? | 14:06 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: good. I'll also be doing a few things, and it's just as well that it's now under version control I suppose. | 14:06 |
| meet | @paul : there has been a lot of mention about it being related to license?? | 14:06 |
| cchelpbot | meet: Error: "paul" is not a valid command. | 14:06 |
| paulproteus | meet, I don't understand your question. | 14:07 |
| meet | ok see there is a lot of mention about finding licence metadata | 14:08 |
| meet | what that license stands for | 14:08 |
| paulproteus | meet, Do you know what Creative Commons is? | 14:09 |
| rohitj | meet: license like, creative commons, gpl etc | 14:10 |
| meet | yes i know | 14:10 |
| paulproteus | meet, Exactly what rohitj said. (-: | 14:10 |
| meet | ok so we will sevelop a serach module that will serach for such licenses and accompanying data/material? | 14:11 |
| meet | develop* | 14:11 |
| paulproteus | Right, it searches for files licensed under whatever license you search for, on your own computer. | 14:12 |
| meet | ok | 14:13 |
| meet | so we will index just such files not the entire desktop contents | 14:13 |
| meet | or will we work on data provided by the base search engine? | 14:14 |
| rohitj | meet: you have to search entire desktop to find all those files which are licensed under certain license | 14:14 |
| meet | will it be a real time search or like google desktop search | 14:14 |
| * rohitj is clueless but he is still talking | 14:16 | |
| meet | paul : will it be a real time search or like google desktop search | 14:16 |
| rohitj | meet: its not paul, use full nickname | 14:17 |
| meet | ok sorry | 14:17 |
| meet | paulproteus : will it be a real time search or like google desktop search | 14:17 |
| Bovinity | he's also busy eating cake right now | 14:17 |
| rohitj | hehe | 14:17 |
| Bovinity | replies may.. will.. be delayed | 14:17 |
| meet | ??? | 14:18 |
| paulproteus | !!! | 14:18 |
| paulproteus | Mmm. | 14:18 |
| rohitj | meet: I think it has to be like google desktop search | 14:18 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, meet, it depends on which desktop search engine you are improving, but I think they are all based on an index like Google desktop search. | 14:19 |
| paulproteus | But some can do real-time updates to the index. | 14:19 |
| meet | i think beagle is real time or does it use db? | 14:19 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: will you be inconvenience if I were to make the forum's root a checkout at this very moment? | 14:19 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: nope. i'm doing all my stuff locally right now | 14:20 |
| Bovinity | so, in fact, it's a graet convenience | 14:20 |
| rohitj | meet: yes, it indexes | 14:20 |
| meet | ok | 14:20 |
| * rohitj will brb | 14:21 | |
| meet | are we to extend the work of last year's interns? | 14:21 |
| paulproteus | It seems that Beagle needs work, whereas Tracker's work is already done. | 14:26 |
| meet | so are supposed to do the finishing touches? | 14:27 |
| paulproteus | I think fully fresh work is preferred. | 14:28 |
| paulproteus | So we'd prefer an application to work entirely on Beagle, since that's more substantial work. | 14:28 |
| meet | ok this is a relief since i am better in creating than extending | 14:29 |
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| paulproteus | Great. Let me know if you have any further questions. | 14:31 |
| meet | what is the purpose of apotlight? | 14:31 |
| meet | spotlight* | 14:31 |
| paulproteus | Spotlight is Apple's desktop search. | 14:31 |
| meet | ok! | 14:31 |
| meet | so as you have mentioned Beagle is to be worked on so i need not concern myself with spotlight | 14:32 |
| paulproteus | Unless you would rather work on Spotlight. (-: | 14:32 |
| meet | will taht offer an advantage? | 14:33 |
| meet | that* | 14:33 |
| paulproteus | I think the choice of Beagle or Spotlight is not as important in if we will accept your application as you demonstrating you can do high quality work, and you demonstrating your understanding of the work that you will have to do. | 14:34 |
| meet | paul what else should i mention in the application | 14:36 |
| meet | sorry | 14:36 |
| meet | paulproteus* | 14:36 |
| paulproteus | You should read the links on the wiki page. | 14:37 |
| paulproteus | e.g. the Inkscape application guide. | 14:37 |
| paulproteus | The key, as I said, is that *you* demonstrate to us that you can do high-quality work, and that you have an understanding of the technical side of what you will have to do. | 14:37 |
| rohitj | is there any CC/freeculture guy at purdue? | 14:39 |
| paulproteus | I don't know of any, I'm afraid. | 14:39 |
| rohitj | hmm | 14:39 |
| rohitj | I am joining purdue in coming fall, so thought may be I will join activities. | 14:40 |
| paulproteus | Ah, great! | 14:40 |
| paulproteus | Hopefully I'll keep seeing you in #freeculture when you're at Purdue. (-: | 14:40 |
| rohitj | :) | 14:40 |
| rohitj | you will :) | 14:41 |
| meet | paulproteus : thanks | 14:42 |
| meet | rohitj : thanks | 14:42 |
| meet | will start working! thanks for the guidance | 14:43 |
| meet | bye ! Good night here | 14:43 |
| rohitj | meet: which college do you attend? | 14:43 |
| meet | I am in NIT jaipur | 14:43 |
| meet | you are from? | 14:43 |
| rohitj | IIT Kanpur | 14:43 |
| meet | which year? | 14:43 |
| rohitj | 4th | 14:44 |
| meet | computers? | 14:44 |
| rohitj | yepp | 14:45 |
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| paulproteus | Bye! | 14:47 |
| rohitj | bbye | 14:48 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: I just restructured the bbpress project in subversion ... to add trunk, branches, tags, etc. You might want to do a cp -a on your current checkout before updating ... just to be sure. | 15:33 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: ok! | 15:34 |
| paulproteus | nathany [not here], Bovinity, nkinkade, I changed the shorewall configuration and added the git-daemon-run package to a6 so that git repositories are served for the anonymouse. | 15:56 |
| paulproteus | And spent the last half hour fighting with svrun or whatever it's called. | 15:56 |
| paulproteus | But no matter. | 15:56 |
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| paulproteus | From #olpc: | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | <paulproteus> You can see why I feel frustrated maybe? | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | <paulproteus> I don't mean to annoy, only to get sympathy. (-: | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | <_sj_> :) yes | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | <paulproteus> Okay, I already feel a little better. (-: | 16:08 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, Bovinity, nkinkade: Correction: I used inetd to run git-daemon rather than the srvrun thing because the svrun thing was driving me totally bonkers. | 16:19 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, For a good time: | 16:19 |
| paulproteus | git clone git://code.creativecommons.org/license.rdf.git | 16:19 |
| paulproteus | Compare that to how long svn takes to check out license.rdf. | 16:19 |
| * nkinkade does sudo aptitude install git | 16:20 | |
| nathany | nkinkade: you want git-corte | 16:21 |
| paulproteus | git-core | 16:21 |
| nathany | er, git-core | 16:21 |
| nathany | lol | 16:21 |
| paulproteus | I am the typo correction bot. | 16:21 |
| nkinkade | Well, now I've got GNU Interactive Tools too. | 16:22 |
| paulproteus | Feel free to ditch them at any moment. | 16:22 |
| nkinkade | What are all these perl dependencies? | 16:22 |
| nathany | don't ask, don't tell | 16:23 |
| paulproteus | nathany++ | 16:23 |
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| nkinkade | $ time git clone git://code.creativecommons.org/license.rdf.git | 16:33 |
| nkinkade | <snip> | 16:33 |
| nkinkade | real 2m39.142s | 16:33 |
| nkinkade | user 0m56.440s | 16:33 |
| nkinkade | sys 0m3.708s | 16:33 |
| nathany | damn | 16:33 |
| nkinkade | That's pretty fast for what are apparently 168000+ files. It must do some serious compression. | 16:33 |
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| nkinkade | Nevermind ... nkinkade@npk:~/tmp$ find license.rdf/ | wc -l = 23422. So I now know that git objects are not at all equivalent to files. | 16:45 |
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| Bovinity | nkinkade: if forum.cc is running production, are you going to set up a staging/trunk version? | 17:19 |
| nkinkade | yes. | 17:20 |
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| nkinkade | I didn't have in mind to setup a staging site. | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | For some reason I'm getting subversion Checksum mismatches on a few files in the cc templates dir. | 17:21 |
| Bovinity | hum | 17:22 |
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| paulproteus | Oops, infinite-recursive make. | 18:25 |
| nkinkade | http://csszengarden.com/ | 18:39 |
| Bovinity | heh, haven't read that url in a long time | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | Me either. It was your CSS NInja title at the forum that made me go there again. | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: should we make the header behave like the one at CC.org? | 18:42 |
| Bovinity | in what way? | 18:43 |
| nkinkade | When you mouseover the Search and License buttons. | 18:43 |
| nkinkade | It might just be missing the images. | 18:43 |
| Bovinity | oh, style and/or images probably missing | 18:43 |
| Bovinity | damnit, i keep doing either "git commit" or "svn commit -a" on the svn checkout :P | 18:45 |
| nkinkade | I'll fix it up. | 18:45 |
| Bovinity | no worries, fixed it | 18:45 |
| nkinkade | You already fixed it? | 18:46 |
| Bovinity | yep | 18:46 |
| Bovinity | you know, like ninja. :P | 18:46 |
| nkinkade | By the way, stay away from Naked "Pletiful Pomegranate" juice. It's terrible. | 18:47 |
| nkinkade | (Plentiful, that is)\ | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | Not terrible, just plentiful. | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | lol, Bovinity! | 18:48 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, "# Subversion working copies. Can be modified, queried (bzr status on a svn- native working copy created with svn co works) and committed from." | 18:55 |
| paulproteus | <http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrForeignBranches/Subversion> | 18:55 |
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| Bovinity | i don't recall git-svn fetching checkouts into a git-svn branch before | 19:11 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Huh? | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | I'm making fun of you by referring to bzr-svn, fwiw, which I don't actually really use. | 19:12 |
| Bovinity | $ git branch -a | 19:12 |
| Bovinity | * master | 19:12 |
| Bovinity | git-svn | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | Er. | 19:12 |
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