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| QuiRK_ | hey | 06:15 |
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| paulproteus | Morning, all. | 09:21 |
| fluzo | Hello | 09:22 |
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| QuiRK_ | query paulproteus | 09:49 |
| QuiRK_ | oops | 09:49 |
| Lats | lol | 09:50 |
| paulproteus | QuiRK_, Oh hi! | 09:50 |
| QuiRK_ | ok, so i have rebuilt liblicense with debug symobols | 09:51 |
| paulproteus | Great. | 09:51 |
| QuiRK_ | as license segfaults, i ran it in gdb, and i have a backtrace (i'm not sure it's so useful) | 09:52 |
| QuiRK_ | http://paste.backtrace.info/?page=view&id=1206111191 | 09:53 |
| paulproteus | Whoa. | 09:53 |
| paulproteus | That looks ugly. | 09:53 |
| paulproteus | QuiRK_, Well, that sucks, and you could maybe file a bug on SourceForge. | 09:54 |
| paulproteus | I think if you enable the id3 module (and disable the taglib module) you will get better results. | 09:54 |
| QuiRK_ | ok | 09:54 |
| paulproteus | QuiRK_, Can you email me the file you're working on - asheesh@creativecommons.org? | 09:54 |
| QuiRK_ | Lats: can you send the file to paulproteus? i have used the one in your email | 09:56 |
| paulproteus | But in general - use the id3 module for liblicense, and this will almost surely go away. | 09:56 |
| QuiRK_ | i give it a try without taglib support | 09:56 |
| paulproteus | I'll see what I can do about the taglib module for the next release. | 09:56 |
| paulproteus | Please also send the exact command line you call the "license" program with. | 09:57 |
| Lats | ok | 09:57 |
| QuiRK_ | aah, that's much better without taglib, it doesn't segfault anymore | 09:59 |
| paulproteus | Good, now hopefully with the id3lib module it'll also work. (-: | 10:00 |
| fluzo | I'm not experienced, but i have a strong wish to learn :p | 10:00 |
| paulproteus | What do you want to work on? | 10:00 |
| paulproteus | You said you wanted to do Summer of Code stuff? | 10:00 |
| paulproteus | Which project / what project interests you? | 10:00 |
| fluzo | My current project involves searching and indexing (lucene) and metadata (general, and specifically preservation) | 10:01 |
| fluzo | (sorry for my slow writting, this irc client is a pain in the ass) | 10:01 |
| * paulproteus nods | 10:01 | |
| fluzo | so reading the ideas page i came across the "desktop search integration" | 10:02 |
| fluzo | i'm a mac user so "ideally" it would be for spotlight, but any other "search engine" would be ok too | 10:03 |
| fluzo | My main interest is learning hehe | 10:03 |
| fluzo | even if it's out of the "summer of code" thing | 10:03 |
| paulproteus | There was a lot of work done on tracker integration last summer. | 10:04 |
| paulproteus | I have to jet, but I'll be back online later today, and maybe others like bovinity or nathany can chat more. | 10:05 |
| fluzo | Ok, i was camping here waiting for some brains to get online :) | 10:05 |
| fluzo | I've been poking around cc_spotlight but further playing is needed | 10:07 |
| fluzo | ( the source would be welcome ) | 10:09 |
| paulproteus | Is it not in the cctools repository? | 10:10 |
| paulproteus | I don't know much about cc_spotlight. | 10:10 |
| fluzo | It's not in the repo. The only info is in http://yergler.net/projects/cc-spotlight/ | 10:21 |
| paulproteus | Ah-hah. | 10:23 |
| paulproteus | That's nathany on this channel. | 10:23 |
| paulproteus | Ping him when he's around. | 10:23 |
| fluzo | Ok, thanks | 10:24 |
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| fluzo | Hi Bovinity | 11:42 |
| Bovinity | hi | 11:42 |
| fluzo | I've been talking with paulproteu but he was in a rush | 11:43 |
| fluzo | I0m interested in the "Desktop search integration" project | 11:43 |
| fluzo | paulproteu: I have to jet, but I'll be back online later today, and maybe others like bovinity or nathany can chat more. | 11:44 |
| fluzo | I sent some e-mails but all the ppl seems to be occupied (I understand it :p) | 11:45 |
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| fluzo | Hello | 11:55 |
| nathany | hi fluzo | 11:57 |
| fluzo | I wrote you an email regarding summer of code, did you see it? | 11:57 |
| fluzo | all the other "mentors" told me to talk to you | 11:58 |
| nathany | wrt LaTeX? | 11:58 |
| fluzo | desktop search integration | 11:58 |
| fluzo | with spotlight mainly | 11:59 |
| nathany | yes, saw it, was just getting ready to reply :) | 11:59 |
| fluzo | no rush :p | 11:59 |
| fluzo | i'm quite interested and i'm playing a bit with cc_spotlight, but i cannot find the source code | 12:00 |
| nathany | http://yergler.net/projects/cc-spotlight/ | 12:00 |
| nathany | does the .dmg is the releases directory have the source in it? | 12:00 |
| fluzo | nope | 12:01 |
| nathany | oh | 12:01 |
| nathany | uh, i'll have to dig around | 12:01 |
| fluzo | Example Smart Folders | 12:01 |
| fluzo | CC Metadata Importer.pkg | 12:02 |
| nathany | right | 12:02 |
| nathany | it's been a couple years since i wrote that, so i'll have to figure out where the code is now | 12:02 |
| fluzo | no worries :p | 12:02 |
| fluzo | I have to go, will you be around later? | 12:03 |
| nathany | yup | 12:03 |
| fluzo | Ok, then. See you | 12:03 |
| nathany | great | 12:03 |
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| CIA-35 | nyergler * r9463 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/ (configure.zcml zero/templates/index.pt): | 12:30 |
| CIA-35 | Turned off new-style public domain assertion interface, re-exposed | 12:30 |
| CIA-35 | existing one. Set link in the CC0 waiver UI to go to the correct URL | 12:30 |
| CIA-35 | for the older PD chooser. | 12:30 |
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| CIA-35 | nyergler * r9464 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Explicitly use the "macros" namespace when calling macros on other views. | 12:39 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: now you have svn access with the same keys as for git | 13:59 |
| paulproteus | w00t | 14:00 |
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| nathany | Bovinity: paulproteus: nkinkade: i think we're about ready to cut over svn from sourceforge; are all of you OK with dealing with massive relocation in the next hour, hour+30? | 14:00 |
| nkinkade | what's up with those mousy little rsa keys you've got? | 14:00 |
| paulproteus | They have known weak factorizations so that it's easy for imposters to impersonate me, giving me good plausible deniability. | 14:02 |
| nathany | does http://code.creativecommons.org/ look ok for basic info on accesing the repos? | 14:04 |
| Bovinity | maybe we, i, make it look like a real cc.org page, in the distant future | 14:06 |
| paulproteus | nathany, You could make it mod_proxy to a wiki URL or something. | 14:06 |
| paulproteus | Or just redirect I guess. | 14:06 |
| nkinkade | nathany: the repository finished syncing. | 14:16 |
| nathany | thanks | 14:16 |
| nathany | i'm doing a full checkout to update externals now | 14:21 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Perhaps we should write a script to fix the externals. | 14:22 |
| paulproteus | s/we/I/ ? | 14:22 |
| paulproteus | There are scores of them. | 14:22 |
| paulproteus | The checkout goes pretty quick on a6. | 14:25 |
| paulproteus | Like, sort of shockingly so. | 14:25 |
| paulproteus | Also some Spotlight code seems to be in the svn tree. | 14:25 |
| fluzo | re-hi | 14:28 |
| nathany | hi fluzo | 14:29 |
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| paulproteus | svn propsed | 14:31 |
| paulproteus | Got a script ready; just waiting for a full checkout to exist. | 14:37 |
| paulproteus | I suggest meeting, since I'm leaving for eating around 1 and then going to chill at EFF again. | 14:39 |
| paulproteus | Plus we're all just waiting for checkouts. | 14:40 |
| paulproteus | http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-March/011978.html seems like a cool guy. | 14:40 |
| paulproteus | <johnjosephbachir__> do you know of a good super quick summary of CC licenses | 14:41 |
| paulproteus | <johnjosephbachir__> for the layman | 14:41 |
| paulproteus | <johnjosephbachir__> for this guy to link to http://theblog.teachfor.us/2008/03/20/license-your-work-to-share-your-work/ | 14:41 |
| paulproteus | A friend asks, what's the quickest/simplest useful explanation of the choices in CC licenses? | 14:41 |
| paulproteus | I'm inclined to say the mouse-over help in the widget. | 14:41 |
| paulproteus | I guess he can't really link to it though. | 14:42 |
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| fluzo | thanks for the link to the code, it's quite disguised :p | 15:07 |
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| tarkus | wondering.. is there such a thing as licensing a concept or idea? | 16:22 |
| nathany | tarkus: not in the CC world | 16:22 |
| nathany | CC licenses build on copyright and you can't copyright an idea | 16:22 |
| tarkus | aah kk | 16:23 |
| nathany | presumably you could patent it and then liberally license it... | 16:23 |
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| tarkus | because im building a collaboration site for collective notion building, where community shares ideas and builds mature concepts quickly for developers to adopt and use in opensource software or any respective area.. | 16:24 |
| tarkus | but to avoid company exploiting these notions and making money of them, is something im trying to think about. but it seems unavoidable | 16:24 |
| tarkus | companies* | 16:24 |
| nathany | i don't know; perhaps legal counsel could help you assess whether its avoidable? | 16:25 |
| tvol | cc.org has comments! | 16:45 |
| paulproteus | nathany, ping | 17:15 |
| nathany | paulproteus: pong | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | Wanna guess how big liblicense.rdf.git is? | 17:15 |
| nathany | 250M? | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | Hint: I was was way off. | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | 896M .git | 17:16 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@a6:~/gitted/license.rdf $ | 17:16 |
| paulproteus | Jesus Christ. | 17:16 |
| nathany | fuck! | 17:16 |
| nathany | lol | 17:16 |
| paulproteus | I *know*! | 17:16 |
| nathany | that's almost an order of magnitude off | 17:16 |
| * paulproteus blushes | 17:16 | |
| paulproteus | For realsies. | 17:17 |
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| nathany | tvol: any reason for the scribd.com links on the Documentation page? | 17:28 |
| nathany | i'm just trying to clean up the link formatting a bit... | 17:28 |
| nkinkade | nathany: where are those commits coming from that appear to be from webmaster? | 17:51 |
| nathany | i made them, hadn't figured out how to get the "from" right | 17:51 |
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| tvol | hey nathany--trying to also show that we're using services that support cc licensing...maybe just have one link to scribd that says "here's where we gots our stuff?" | 17:56 |
| nathany | maybe... i tried to clean the page up generally since the Media:xxx links were pretty opaque | 17:57 |
| nathany | anyway, i'm heading out... | 17:57 |
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| nkinkade | a6 is somewhat beatup with I/O. | 18:00 |
| paulproteus | Oops. | 18:03 |
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| paulproteus | Is it a problem? | 18:04 |
| paulproteus | If so, I can change my approach. | 18:04 |
| paulproteus | I can renice it, but that doesn't usually help for I/O. | 18:04 |
| nkinkade | It's not a big problem, just means that every so often I get to type fast than characters appear in the terminal. | 18:06 |
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