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| CoCa | Hi | 08:20 |
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| CoCa | I have a question about liblicense.. | 08:21 |
| CoCa | Is there someone who knows it ? | 08:22 |
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| CoCa | no one ? | 08:26 |
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| paulproteus | CoCa, Hi! | 10:16 |
| paulproteus | You should email cc-devel, or talk to me, basically. | 10:16 |
| CoCa | hi paulproteus | 10:29 |
| CoCa | I would like to know how to find docs to use liblicense in command line | 10:29 |
| paulproteus | CoCa, Well, the first thing you need to do is install it. | 10:31 |
| paulproteus | Have you done that? | 10:31 |
| paulproteus | The /usr/bin/license program has a help option once installed. | 10:31 |
| paulproteus | I'm not sure it has a man page, but it does support -h. | 10:31 |
| CoCa | ok thanks, it works on freebsd ? | 10:32 |
| paulproteus | It should - we don't test on FreeBSD, but we do test on Darwin (Mac OS X) and Linux, and it works fine in both places. | 10:32 |
| paulproteus | Are you the person I (Asheesh) have been trading emails with, btw? | 10:32 |
| CoCa | Yes ! you are Asheesh ? | 10:33 |
| paulproteus | Yes! | 10:33 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 10:33 |
| CoCa | fine to "meet" you :) | 10:34 |
| paulproteus | Good to "meet" you, too. | 10:34 |
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| paulproteus | So it should work on FreeBSD just fine - but you'll need the dependencies I mentioned by email, mostly exempi. | 10:35 |
| CoCa | I'm installing liblicense | 10:36 |
| paulproteus | Great. | 10:37 |
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| CoCa | I do a ./configure && clean | 10:49 |
| paulproteus | ./configure && make | 10:49 |
| CoCa | yes a ./configure && make | 10:50 |
| paulproteus | Do you compile software on a regular basis? | 10:50 |
| paulproteus | Read the output of ./configure also - does it say it'll be okay? | 10:50 |
| paulproteus | BTW, it would help us if someone wanted to work on a FreeBSD port; I don't know anything about FreeBSD packaging I'm afraid. | 10:50 |
| CoCa | the configure && make seems to work | 10:51 |
| CoCa | i'm installing depedencies | 10:54 |
| CoCa | I have to quit, I will be back tomorrow | 11:02 |
| CoCa | thanks paulproteus :) | 11:02 |
| paulproteus | CoCa, Great, talk to you tomorrow! | 11:02 |
| CoCa | :) | 11:02 |
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| Montagg | Quesiton about CC compatibility: Is CC BY-SA compatible with works under a Libre Art License? I'm looking at music from Jamendo for a film, some of it is LAL. | 11:40 |
| isforinsects | LibreArtLicense? Never heard of it. | 11:42 |
| * isforinsects googles | 11:42 | |
| * isforinsects !== anyone cc-related | 11:42 | |
| isforinsects | btw | 11:42 |
| isforinsects | Montagg: You could also ask in #jamendo I think | 11:42 |
| Montagg | Will do, /ty | 11:43 |
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| Montagg | I'd only heard of it when I downloaded a couple songs and noticed the license text. (Jamendo just has check boxes for commercial purposes and ability to build upon songs.) Pretty similar to CC BY-SA, but french. | 11:44 |
| isforinsects | Montagg: interesting | 11:47 |
| isforinsects | Montagg: wikipedia doesn't have much about it either :S | 11:48 |
| Montagg | isforinsects: Yeah, looked at WP and the license itself. Doesn't mention CC. | 11:48 |
| isforinsects | Montagg: CC's wiki is pretty terse about it too | 11:51 |
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| paulproteus | Morning, all. | 12:02 |
| isforinsects | morning paulproteus | 12:02 |
| isforinsects | paulproteus: do you know much about the french Free Art License / Libre Art License ? | 12:03 |
| paulproteus | I know that the people who work on it don't seem to be interested in compatibility with the CC world. | 12:03 |
| paulproteus | Their license came before the CC suite, I'm pretty sure. | 12:04 |
| isforinsects | 2000 | 12:04 |
| isforinsects | Well they are french :-| | 12:05 |
| paulproteus | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Free_Art_license | 12:05 |
| paulproteus | Says nearly nothing. | 12:06 |
| isforinsects | Yeah, hence why I was asking about it. | 12:06 |
| isforinsects | the CC wiki is also pretty silent | 12:06 |
| paulproteus | http://thinkubator.ccsp.sfu.ca/TheFreeArtLicenseAndCreativeCommons seems to point out that the Free Art License is similar to by-sa | 12:07 |
| isforinsects | what's up with using https:// for wikipedia? | 12:08 |
| * paulproteus shrugs, I installed a GreaseMonkey script that does that a couple years ago. | 12:08 | |
| paulproteus | http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-community/2005-August/000669.html indicates that there may be some work toward Free Art License / CC compatibility. | 12:08 |
| paulproteus | http://www.google.com/search?q=licence-art-libre+creative-commons has some more discussion of potential users, but en francais. | 12:10 |
| paulproteus | http://www.culturelibre.net/spip.php?article170 refers to the Free Art License "in crisis" | 12:10 |
| paulproteus | This seems to be just some person's opinion, not anything official from a Free Art License person. | 12:11 |
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| CIA-3 | paulproteus * r8835 /livecontent/trunk/make_cd.sh: stop lying | 13:05 |
| CIA-3 | paulproteus * r8836 /livecontent/trunk/ (cc-livecd-template.ks make_cd.sh): percent end | 13:17 |
| CIA-3 | paulproteus * r8837 /livecontent/trunk/cc-livecd-template.ks: test nochroot | 13:21 |
| paulproteus | tvol, Looks like I will be able to get the autocurated content available outside the live system. | 13:22 |
| paulproteus | (Or manually curated, as in the case of the Wikimedia Commons photos.) | 13:22 |
| paulproteus | I'm very pleased about this; I think it dramatically improves the usefulness of this disc. | 13:23 |
| tvol | paulproteus: fantastic. i agree....so it basically means the "autocuration" bit of it will work independent of the livedvd format | 13:23 |
| tvol | or, potentially | 13:24 |
| isforinsects | disk? | 13:24 |
| paulproteus | tvol, Precisely - that's exactly what it means, which is a huge win. | 13:24 |
| tvol | paulproteus: totally sweet. this is awesome | 13:25 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, http://wiki.creativecommons.org/LiveContent | 13:25 |
| isforinsects | Sj and I are working on some pretty widespread meta-tagging projects for *good* open content. You should talk to him about auto and distributed curation sometime | 13:26 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, You set up a time to talk with him and me and you and I'll be there. | 13:27 |
| isforinsects | Will do | 13:28 |
| isforinsects | paulproteus: One of the many projects is better filtering and scriptable access to Flickr CC images. | 13:29 |
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| paulproteus | isforinsects, What we're doing with Flickr is getting the images it calls "interesting" and just filtering down by if they're CC licensed. | 13:31 |
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| isforinsects | Oh? Could I get a copy of that script? I haven't poked at the api enough | 13:31 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, http://cctools.svn.sf.net/svnroot/cctools/autocurate/trunk/ | 13:32 |
| * paulproteus chuckles | 13:32 | |
| paulproteus | It took me a LONG TIME because Flickr gives you invalid XML back in the API. | 13:32 |
| paulproteus | To me, that's like claiming to offer an API but interlacing API responses with explosive material. | 13:33 |
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| isforinsects | ha!@ | 13:33 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, I worked around that pretty universally. | 13:33 |
| isforinsects | In python no less! | 13:33 |
| isforinsects | :) | 13:33 |
| * isforinsects glee | 13:33 | |
| paulproteus | Just svn co that, and then "python flickr.py" | 13:33 |
| tvol | paulproteus: glad you were able to cut the green wire and not the red one......damn flickr api bombs | 13:34 |
| paulproteus | tvol, There was a Mystery Hunt puzzle where we had to defuse a bomb two years ago. | 13:34 |
| paulproteus | We got it right... | 13:34 |
| paulproteus | ...the second time. | 13:34 |
| tvol | :) | 13:34 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, Note that this uses my personal Flickr API wrapper that I wrote for an unrelated project at rose.makesad.us. | 13:36 |
| paulproteus | tvol, BTW I like watching the LiveContent builder progress at http://buildbot.creativecommons.org/ | 13:38 |
| paulproteus | I really like how it tells me when to expect the new build. | 13:38 |
| isforinsects | paulproteus: flickrmonkey? | 13:38 |
| tvol | whoa | 13:38 |
| isforinsects | aah | 13:39 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, YES. (-: | 13:39 |
| * isforinsects sees | 13:39 | |
| paulproteus | Bomb defused. | 13:39 |
| paulproteus | nathany_, I presume I too am going to these conferences if we get in? | 13:40 |
| paulproteus | My PGP key could really use some fresh signatures. | 13:40 |
| nathany_ | paulproteus: i added you as a co-speaker for the liblicense talk | 13:40 |
| nathany_ | (submitted to both) | 13:40 |
| paulproteus | nathany_, You should mention a demo of liblicense integration into a web app. | 13:40 |
| paulproteus | In Python, of course. | 13:40 |
| paulproteus | Maybe not for Ubuntu Live, but surely for OSCON I'd say. (Might as well do it for Ubuntu, too, I'd say actually.) | 13:41 |
| nathany_ | is that too much for a 45 minute talk? | 13:41 |
| paulproteus | No. | 13:41 |
| nathany_ | i was thinking not for UL to keep it U focused | 13:41 |
| paulproteus | My liblicense talk at the GNOME Summit was, like, 14 minutes. | 13:41 |
| isforinsects | I don't suppose anybody is going to be at the Linux northwest thing in april. | 13:42 |
| nathany_ | ok, but my instinct is this won't be quite as technical an audience as gnome summit | 13:42 |
| nathany_ | slightly slower presentation :) | 13:42 |
| nathany_ | isforinsects: linux northwest thing? | 13:42 |
| isforinsects | http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/present.html | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | nathany_, Sure, but still, I think it won't be too much. | 13:43 |
| paulproteus | nathany_, I've finished registering on the O'Really conference thing. | 13:45 |
| nathany_ | paulproteus: finished registering? did you get an email saying you'd been added as a speaker or something? | 13:49 |
| paulproteus | nathany_, I filled in my bio on the web and gave myself a password in response to an email saying I'd been added as a co-presenter. | 13:49 |
| nathany_ | ah, great | 13:49 |
| nathany_ | isforinsects: i don't think anyone from CC is going | 13:51 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, Wow, that's *really* northwest. | 13:51 |
| nathany_ | paulproteus: so do you think we should leave the talk title the same if we're mentioning web apps? | 14:00 |
| paulproteus | No, but I don't see a concise way to extend it that still sounds as good. | 14:02 |
| paulproteus | You're the boss (so to speak). | 14:02 |
| isforinsects | beautifulsoup is a really nice lib | 14:32 |
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| paulproteus | I used it after spending half a day trying to fight the various forms of corruption myself. | 14:32 |
| nkinkade | i like beautifulsoup very much. | 14:33 |
| balor | Where can I find a good quality PDF of the CC-BY 3.0 licence text? | 14:33 |
| tvol | balor not sure if this exists in the cc graphics arsenal right now, but you could make your own from the text on the website | 14:38 |
| balor | tvol: thanks. I will. | 14:38 |
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