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| CIA-2 | nyergler * r8709 /i18n/trunk/po/sr_LATN/cc_org.po: Syncing SR changes. | 10:02 |
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| nkinkade | bovinity: what sort of tagging functionality does WP have? or is that handled by categories? | 11:37 |
| bovinity | nkinkade, as of 2.3 it has a tagging system | 11:38 |
| nkinkade | bovinity: yeah, i just saw the textbox below the post area. thanks! | 11:38 |
| nkinkade | bovinity: would there be any problem with creating a ccLearn category on CC.org? | 11:41 |
| bovinity | no, considering that's the plan | 11:41 |
| bovinity | ;) | 11:41 |
| nkinkade | Ahrash wants Jane to post at CC.org, but want to be able to categorize/tag it so that later those blog posts only could be pulled out and integrated onto a ccLearn-specific site. | 11:42 |
| nkinkade | bovinity: so is it just a simple matter of going to the category control panel and adding a new one? it won't affect anything else on the site? | 11:42 |
| bovinity | correct | 11:42 |
| bovinity | i forget what i set up on staging.. weblog/education, or something | 11:42 |
| bovinity | yeah, subcategory of weblog. doesn't interfere with the other education category | 11:43 |
| nkinkade | maybe i should ask ahrash what he wants the name to be. education, learn, cclearn, etc. | 11:44 |
| bovinity | yeah | 11:44 |
| bovinity | the feeds work automagically, so whatever is fine | 11:44 |
| nkinkade | did he tell you "education" or was that just what you chose? | 11:44 |
| bovinity | i chose it out of aptness. | 11:44 |
| nkinkade | seems reasonable to me, but i'll just run it by ahrash before i actually commit to it. | 11:45 |
| nkinkade | thansk. | 11:45 |
| bovinity | as long as it makes sense in the urls, i'd say... weblog/education, weblog/learn, etc | 11:45 |
| nkinkade | s<->k | 11:45 |
| bovinity | oh, it appears it would conflict.. learn may be better then. | 11:46 |
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| nkinkade | bovinity: wait, would there need to be "education" and "learn"? we just want one subcat., right? | 11:51 |
| bovinity | yes, but it seems i was wrong about education not conflicting. "learn" would be a better option for cclearn stuff. | 11:52 |
| bovinity | nkinkade, about to start uploading a 400meg file... fyi, in case the connection starts to get flaky | 12:13 |
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| CIA-2 | nkinkade * r8711 /ccoer/trunk/www/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Special CC system tags for storing arbitrary CC-specific data about a bookmark | 12:42 |
| hub | sourceforget suck | 12:49 |
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| nkinkade | bovinity: i made the category ccLearn as a child of Weblog. does that sound reasonable? | 13:57 |
| bovinity | fine with me | 13:57 |
| bovinity | is the slug cclearn or cclearn-weblog? | 13:57 |
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| isforinsects | I believe that your emailconf script is broken for your wiki | 14:06 |
| isforinsects | It is suggesting that the loopback device just signed up as SethWoodworth | 14:07 |
| isforinsects | according to this email anyway | 14:07 |
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| nkinkade | bovinity: the slug is "cclearn" and the cat name is "ccLearn". if that doesn't seem quite right then feel free to edit them. | 14:15 |
| nkinkade | isforinsects: can you forward that email to me? nkinkade@creativecommons.org | 14:16 |
| isforinsects | Also fixed the links to flickr on the /media page. | 14:17 |
| isforinsects | Does stephan mosel irc? | 14:20 |
| nkinkade | isforinsects: maybe i'm seeing a cached version of the page, but the links still seem broken. at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Media. you are talking about the ones under the heading "Image"? | 14:23 |
| isforinsects | nkinkade: Yes, those are the ones. Aah, I got stopped by the captcha | 14:24 |
| isforinsects | saved now. | 14:24 |
| nkinkade | isforinsects: thanks for correcting that. i'm looking at the email right now. while not technically incorrect, it's pretty ugly that it should say "127.0.0.1" :) | 14:26 |
| isforinsects | agreed | 14:26 |
| nkinkade | isforinsects: it's not clear to me at the moment why the IP would return as 127.0.0.1. I found where it gets set, but it only defaults to the loopback address if one of PHP predefined globals is missing ($_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']), which I'm pretty sure it just picks up from Apache's environment. I'm not sure under what circumstances that variable wouldn't be set. | 14:36 |
| nkinkade | hmm. it just did it for me with a test registration. i'll look into this a little more after lunch. | 14:38 |
| hub | paulproteus: liblicense fail to build here | 14:46 |
| paulproteus | hub, uh-oh | 14:46 |
| paulproteus | Good thing I haven't finished writing this blog post yet. Pastebin the errors? | 14:47 |
| hub | looks like ruby is to blame | 14:47 |
| paulproteus | Drat! | 14:47 |
| paulproteus | I thought I fixed the Ruby thing. | 14:47 |
| paulproteus | (a) if you --disable-ruby or whatever, does it? | 14:47 |
| paulproteus | (b) do you have libruby1.8-dev installed? | 14:47 |
| paulproteus | (c) I'm going to try it right now. | 14:47 |
| hub | http://pastebin.ca/856474 | 14:47 |
| hub | I have because the header are here | 14:48 |
| paulproteus | Gosh darn it. | 14:48 |
| hub | I'll check the version | 14:48 |
| paulproteus | Missing stdbool.h | 14:48 |
| hub | ruby-devel-1.8.6.p36-20.2 | 14:48 |
| hub | I can disable ruby | 14:49 |
| paulproteus | Can you try adding stdbool.h to the top of the Ruby bindings file? | 14:50 |
| hub | let me switch to svn | 14:50 |
| hub | that was the package building attempt | 14:50 |
| hub | trunk fails differently | 14:53 |
| hub | *sigh* | 14:53 |
| hub | ah wait, I'm in -Werror | 14:53 |
| hub | bad bad bad | 14:54 |
| paulproteus | iirc xdgmime fails on Werror. | 14:54 |
| paulproteus | 0.5.1 should fix this Ruby stuff, and 0.6 should fix Werror. In general I agree with Werror. | 14:54 |
| paulproteus | But 0.4 was such a mess that the interface had to get stabilized before I left SF for the Mystery Hunt... | 14:54 |
| hub | ll_parse_version (const char * version) | 14:54 |
| hub | it does a free() on version | 14:55 |
| hub | wtf | 14:55 |
| * paulproteus blinks | 14:55 | |
| paulproteus | Good thing this is all publicly archived. | 14:55 |
| paulproteus | Make that two fixes for 0.5.1. | 14:56 |
| paulproteus | Lemme look into those right now. | 14:56 |
| hub | stdbool.h fix it | 14:56 |
| hub | but I'm not sure how portable it is | 14:56 |
| paulproteus | If someone comes to me and says "It doesn't compile because I don't get stdbool.h" then we'll revisit this. | 14:57 |
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| paulproteus | hub, You wanna commit that stdbool fix please? | 15:00 |
| hub | paulproteus: AC_CHECK_HEADER :-) | 15:00 |
| paulproteus | (that's an invitation to do so) | 15:00 |
| hub | will commit | 15:00 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 15:00 |
| hub | un trunk ? | 15:00 |
| hub | s/un/in/g | 15:00 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 15:00 |
| paulproteus | P.S. Thanks. (-: | 15:00 |
| hub | ok | 15:00 |
| CIA-2 | hfiguiere * r8712 /liblicense/trunk/bindings/ruby/liblicense.c: add #include <stdbool.h> to compile on suse. | 15:02 |
| hub | the patch will be in the 0.5.0 package | 15:02 |
| paulproteus | I'm willing to release 0.5.1 if this is broken on Debian too. | 15:02 |
| * paulproteus checks on that | 15:02 | |
| hub | no problem | 15:03 |
| hub | I'll update the package when that happen :-) | 15:03 |
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| paulproteus | hub, Okay, cool. (-: | 15:04 |
| paulproteus | Also, this free() thing. | 15:04 |
| paulproteus | That's pretty bad. | 15:04 |
| hub | at first sight that how it looks | 15:04 |
| hub | it is bad style, that's sure | 15:04 |
| paulproteus | Fails for me too. | 15:05 |
| paulproteus | Drat. (-: | 15:05 |
| paulproteus | re: free: | 15:05 |
| paulproteus | The reason it is like that is that there used to be a get_version() function; this replaces that. | 15:05 |
| paulproteus | Old calls to get_version(); would have to free() something themselves now. | 15:05 |
| paulproteus | But I guess that's just how life in C works. | 15:13 |
| paulproteus | hub, Got another sec? | 15:21 |
| paulproteus | I'm looking at *uses* of the version extractor function, and I think it's a memory leak. | 15:21 |
| paulproteus | Although that's not a huge issue for a 0.5.1 brown paper bag release. | 15:22 |
| paulproteus | But e.g. bindings/python/liblicense.c - look for ll_parse_version | 15:22 |
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| hub | yes and? | 15:23 |
| CIA-2 | paulproteus * r8713 /liblicense/trunk/liblicense/license_info.c: Don't free() things people pass you, that's rude\! | 15:24 |
| paulproteus | Confound it, bash, I didn't want \! to be part of the commit message\! | 15:25 |
| paulproteus | I just wanted a raw '!"! Is that too much to ask? | 15:25 |
| paulproteus | hub, re: memory leak: I'm not sure we're freeing the return value of ll_get_attribute. | 15:26 |
| paulproteus | I don't know the interaction of ll_get_first and arrays and free off the top of my head. | 15:26 |
| hub | ah ok | 15:27 |
| hub | well maybe one should write a test case for make check :-) | 15:27 |
| paulproteus | Interesting point you have there. (-: | 15:29 |
| CIA-2 | paulproteus * r8714 /liblicense/trunk/TODO: l8r | 15:30 |
| isforinsects | Does anyone at CC have control of the flickr group? | 15:31 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, the creativecommons Flickr account you mean? | 15:31 |
| isforinsects | I want to volunteer to moderate the group. Lots of the photos aren't CC and I'd like to pare some of them down | 15:31 |
| isforinsects | I mean the flickr group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/creativecommons/ | 15:32 |
| isforinsects | I'm the administrator of the OLPC group and ones for the Chumby and the Openmoko. | 15:32 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, Email jennifer at creativecommons and CC: me (asheesh at creativecommons), and be sure to mention your Flickr username. | 15:33 |
| paulproteus | And CC: jon at creativecommons, too. | 15:33 |
| paulproteus | e.g. http://www.flickr.com/photos/violentine/2192141994/in/pool-creativecommons/ is not related to CC in any way, as far as I know. | 15:33 |
| paulproteus | You might try messaging people asking them to CC-license their photos rather than just removing them. | 15:34 |
| paulproteus | Also, majorly thanks for volunteering to do that. (-: | 15:34 |
| isforinsects | paulproteus: I believe that I could write up a script for that fairly easily. | 15:40 |
| isforinsects | It's unfortunate that you really should have a signed model release for most photos. | 15:41 |
| CIA-2 | paulproteus * r8715 /liblicense/trunk/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): update configure.ac for 0.5.1 | 15:42 |
| isforinsects | I'll only label photos CC if they are from public places, or don't have people. Which is still quite a few. | 15:42 |
| paulproteus | Sure, but I urge you to manually review every automated message you intend to send. | 15:48 |
| paulproteus | I need to fix my embarrassing mistakes that hub found, tt y'all in a few. | 15:48 |
| isforinsects | paulproteus: I would. It's just a pain to do it by hand without a script running through all of the steps and confirmations. Let alone tracking down all of the non-cc photos | 15:51 |
| paulproteus | Oh, I believe in automation too! | 15:51 |
| bovinity | there are non-cc photos in the cc group? | 15:51 |
| paulproteus | I just want to avoid automatic mistakes. | 15:51 |
| bovinity | wtf? | 15:51 |
| paulproteus | bovinity, I just bounced you isforinsects's email, fwiw. | 15:51 |
| bovinity | aha | 15:52 |
| bovinity | cool | 15:52 |
| bovinity | isforinsects, what's your actual flickr address? | 15:53 |
| bovinity | surely you're not het stephanmosel you speak of | 15:53 |
| bovinity | ;) | 15:53 |
| isforinsects | bovinity: There's currently a photo from Halo as the most recent photo :S | 15:53 |
| isforinsects | I am http://www.flickr.com/photos/sethwoodworth/ | 15:54 |
| CIA-2 | paulproteus * r8716 /liblicense/tags/ (55 files in 12 dirs): tag it | 15:57 |
| paulproteus | hub, got a sec for an autoconf question? | 16:02 |
| paulproteus | I swear, one day I will not be totally clueless about all this. | 16:02 |
| hub | shoot | 16:02 |
| paulproteus | hub, In trunk, I tried to tell autoconf it's liblicense 0.5.1 by changing configure.ac. | 16:03 |
| paulproteus | However, everything still seems to think it's 0.5. | 16:03 |
| hub | did you reconfigure? | 16:04 |
| paulproteus | That is, I set: AC_INIT([liblicense],[0.5.1],[cc-devel@lists.ibiblio.org]) | 16:04 |
| paulproteus | And then I ran autogen.sh again, sure. | 16:04 |
| paulproteus | I don't know if I manually ran ./configure, but iirc autogen.sh (via gnome-whatever-auto.sh) does anyway. | 16:04 |
| hub | config.h show the righ version | 16:05 |
| paulproteus | Doesn't for me... | 16:05 |
| hub | yeah it re-run it | 16:05 |
| hub | weird, works fine here | 16:05 |
| paulproteus | I just did... | 16:05 |
| * paulproteus chuckles | 16:05 | |
| paulproteus | Well. | 16:05 |
| paulproteus | Time to pull out my friend rm. | 16:05 |
| bovinity | fun with auto tools.. | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | Gosh darn it, it worked that time. | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | make distclean didn't work for me either. | 16:08 |
| paulproteus | BTW do you know the origin of "brown paper bag release"? | 16:09 |
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| hub | paulproteus: I did release a brown paper bag version for exempi | 16:51 |
| hub | paulproteus: 1.99.6 as messed up soversion :-/ | 16:51 |
| hub | paulproteus: so I release 1.99.7 the next day :-/ | 16:51 |
| paulproteus | Mine was the same day. (-; | 16:52 |
| hub | was almost the same day | 16:52 |
| hub | but I was having a life | 16:52 |
| hub | ;-) | 16:52 |
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| papyromancer | quick question. Should I tag my buddy's albums with an unported license or a US jurisdiction? | 17:26 |
| paulproteus | If you're in the US, you should ask him to agree to a US jurisdiction license. | 17:31 |
| paulproteus | It's compatible with the other ones no matter which way you go, but there's some obscure legal thing I never put my finger on that makes the jurisdiction licenses a good idea. | 17:31 |
| paulproteus | omg, bovinity. | 17:39 |
| bovinity | omg | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | I just figured out the best demo of liblicense. | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | A demo of us using DTrace to debug liblicense on rails. | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | In general - liblicense on rails! | 17:39 |
| bovinity | lol | 17:40 |
| paulproteus | For bonus points, we could use ZFS on OS X on the new MacBook Air I heard about. | 17:40 |
| paulproteus | Actually, liblicense on rails is sort of reasonable if we want to let people upload test files and get back license information.... | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | Hmm.... | 17:41 |
| bovinity | that would turn some heads | 17:41 |
| bovinity | do you mean Rails proper, or just "on rails" | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | Uh, I didn't mean "on the BART track". | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | I meant on Rails. | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | Since we already have those Ruby bindings, after all. | 17:41 |
| bovinity | i wonder if any of those api changes you made affected the bindings at all | 17:42 |
| bovinity | i guess it wouldnt compile otherwise.. | 17:42 |
| hub | paulproteus: you meant on the caltrain? | 17:42 |
| * hub runs | 17:42 | |
| * paulproteus puts hub on rails | 17:42 | |
| bovinity | if the caltrain crashes, it's all your fault | 17:42 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, I fixed the bindings to compile. | 17:42 |
| paulproteus | I blame exempi! | 17:42 |
| hub | paulproteus: ? | 17:42 |
| paulproteus | If the CalTrain crashes, I blame exempi. | 17:43 |
| paulproteus | The bindings should be at best the same as 0.4 and at worse the same with extra memory leaks. | 17:43 |
| hub | paulproteus: given that the closest author of exempi from the caltrain is Adobe, feel free to blame them | 17:44 |
| hub | paulproteus: I have never been to California | 17:44 |
| paulproteus | Then why do you know about CalTrain?! | 17:44 |
| * paulproteus eyes hub askew | 17:44 | |
| hub | paulproteus: I got lost on Wikipedia the other day | 17:44 |
| bovinity | buck thoroughly passed. | 17:44 |
| paulproteus | <hub> and then I ended up on CalTrain | 17:44 |
| hub | paulproteus: from the BART | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | cchelpbot hasn't noticed http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7977, so there it is | 17:45 |
| cchelpbot | paulproteus: Error: "hasn't" is not a valid command. | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | cchelpbot, Error: You're a jerk. | 17:45 |
| cchelpbot | paulproteus: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. | 17:45 |
| hub | paulproteus: we don't have decent mass transit here, so I get lost | 17:45 |
| paulproteus | cchelpbot, crash | 17:45 |
| cchelpbot | paulproteus: Error: "crash" is not a valid command. | 17:45 |
| * paulproteus nods | 17:45 | |
| paulproteus | hub, You guys used to have that ferry to Rochester! | 17:45 |
| * paulproteus runs | 17:46 | |
| hub | paulproteus: the closest to that is o-train, but due to idiocy it is stuck on the other side of the river | 17:46 |
| hub | paulproteus: I'm not in Toronto dude | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | Oh, sorry - where are you? | 17:46 |
| hub | paulproteus: there is a subway in Toronto, and street cars | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | Your reverse DNS says Toronto. | 17:46 |
| hub | paulproteus: the Quebec side of Ottawa | 17:46 |
| hub | paulproteus: because the L2TP tunnel to my ISP end up in Toronto, joy of fixed IP addresses | 17:47 |
| hub | and ADSL monopoly from Bell | 17:47 |
| hub | paulproteus: and by Quebec side, I mean Hull, which is just accross the river from Ottawa | 17:48 |
| hub | but that's a different province | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | "and ADSL monopoly from Hell" | 17:48 |
| hub | imagine Oakland being in Nevada, but with the same distance. the BART would stop before the water :-) | 17:49 |
| paulproteus | D'oh. | 17:49 |
| hub | paulproteus: yeah ADSL is a monopoly from Bell, but they are require to whole-sell it to other ISP | 17:49 |
| hub | so you have a L2TP tunnel (PPPoE) to the ISP | 17:49 |
| paulproteus | *Whoa*. | 17:49 |
| paulproteus | We do the same here, but we still get local reverse DNSs... | 17:50 |
| hub | paulproteus: then it depends on how things are set up | 17:50 |
| paulproteus | 'Course. | 17:50 |
| hub | historically my ISP was in Toronto | 17:50 |
| hub | and I have had fixed IP since | 17:50 |
| hub | so it is still like it | 17:50 |
| hub | it has been bought by an Ottawa based company since | 17:50 |
| * paulproteus chuckles | 17:50 | |
| hub | any | 17:51 |
| hub | even Bell-Sympatico used to have funny reverse DNS | 17:51 |
| hub | showing people connectred in Montreal with "Kingston" in the reverse | 17:51 |
| paulproteus | Hee. | 17:51 |
| hub | reverse DNS is just a DNS entry anyway | 17:51 |
| paulproteus | 'Course. | 17:52 |
| hub | you can put anything you want | 17:52 |
| hub | mars, venus, pluto | 17:52 |
| hub | :-) | 17:52 |
| paulproteus | I know. (-: | 17:52 |
| paulproteus | For a good time, traceroute to my reverse DNS which ends in .us. | 17:52 |
| paulproteus | Okay, not a *very* good time, but anyway. | 17:53 |
| hub | .us is US so what? | 17:53 |
| hub | aren't you in the US? | 17:53 |
| paulproteus | Or am I? | 17:54 |
| hub | my reverse used to be gw.figuiere.net | 17:55 |
| hub | but that was in France | 17:55 |
| hub | here they don't do that | 17:55 |
| hub | :-( | 17:55 |
| paulproteus | Nor here. | 17:56 |
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| papyromancer | paulproteus: Thanks :-) | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | Sure thing. | 18:30 |
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