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| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6817 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/skin/ (. __init__.py configure.zcml interfaces.py resources/): Skin w/externals. | 11:26 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6818 /cc.license/trunk/setup.py: Cruft removal... | 12:00 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6819 /cc.engine/trunk/setup.py: Cruft removal... | 12:01 |
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| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6822 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Translation listing support in /license; generalized active_languages function. | 12:42 |
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| CIA-39 | jakin44 * r6823 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/src/Makefile.am: Install the gtk widget back into site-packages/liblicense | 12:51 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6824 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/macros_templates/deed.pt: Use the resourceDirectory for deed CSS. | 12:52 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, Do commit the livecontent stuff soonish if possible. | 13:00 |
| paulproteus | nathany_, To repeat what I said before so you have it in text, template.html in JsWidget should show you how I'm using cc-tooltip.js. | 13:00 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, ah right, I'll do that post-liblicense tarballing | 13:00 |
| nathany_ | paulproteus: thx | 13:01 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, rejon and nathany_, what do you think about having a "use default" button for the nautilus widget instead of defaulting to it | 13:07 |
| tannewt | it seems to imply that a file without a license does indeed have a license | 13:07 |
| paulproteus | If the default is "No license", then that makes sense. | 13:07 |
| tannewt | ? | 13:08 |
| paulproteus | I'll explain later if at all, but to summarize: I think it makes sense. | 13:08 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, its a problem if the default is anything but no license | 13:08 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, alright | 13:09 |
| tannewt | jakin, it probably should not go into the widget itself though | 13:11 |
| jakin | tannewt, that'd be good for contexts where the default should automatically be selected | 13:12 |
| tannewt | jakin, like in the default chooser itself | 13:13 |
| tannewt | :-) | 13:13 |
| jakin | yup | 13:13 |
| tannewt | jakin, lets do it | 13:16 |
| * tannewt wonders where to put the button | 13:16 | |
| jakin | you beat me to that | 13:16 |
| tannewt | jakin, to what? | 13:16 |
| jakin | wondering where to put the button | 13:16 |
| tannewt | hehe | 13:16 |
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| tannewt | its getting crowded | 13:17 |
| tannewt | bovinity, any thoughts about where to place a "use default" button in the license properties page? | 13:17 |
| bovinity | on your system chooser? | 13:17 |
| bovinity | or olpc? | 13:18 |
| tannewt | bovinity, well, we'd rather put it outside the widget, on nautilus | 13:18 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6825 /i18n/trunk/data/en/jswidget.short.html: adding a JsWidget short "What does it mean to CC license something?" thing | 13:18 |
| bovinity | i believe HIG states to put it as a reset button alongside the apply/close button | 13:18 |
| tannewt | bovinity, hmm, the issue it should probably reset to the current license for the file not the system default | 13:19 |
| bovinity | in this instance reset/"default" means "use system default"? | 13:19 |
| tannewt | bovinity, well, no... I'd just like to add a "use default" button because it'd be better to display the current license of a file even if it is none | 13:21 |
| bovinity | oookay. "use default" is the wrong wording then. or i'm totally misunderstanding this. | 13:21 |
| tannewt | bovinity, hmm, it would be "use system default" | 13:22 |
| bovinity | so, right, you want a reset button in the event of there already being a license, and you changed ti and want to go back? | 13:22 |
| tannewt | bovinity, it would set the current chooser status to the system default | 13:22 |
| bovinity | oh, ok, that's what i thoguht at first. | 13:22 |
| tannewt | bovinity, no, right now if a file has no license, the chooser displays the default | 13:23 |
| bovinity | yes | 13:23 |
| bovinity | and you want a quick path back to the default? | 13:23 |
| tannewt | bovinity, but that is misleading so a way to access the system default would make it easy to license it | 13:23 |
| tannewt | bovinity, right | 13:23 |
| tannewt | bovinity, so how do you think that should be done? | 13:25 |
| bovinity | i'm thinking the UI is already getting cluttered and this isn't totally relevant really. | 13:25 |
| bovinity | i guess you *could* add a reset button up in that VBOX with the radio buttons | 13:26 |
| tannewt | bovinity, yeah, I agree with the clutter thought, should the nautilus stuff just not use the default at all? | 13:26 |
| bovinity | well, you still have that radiogroup of No License/License? | 13:26 |
| bovinity | and it defaults to no | 13:26 |
| bovinity | click License, defaults to system setting, done. | 13:27 |
| tannewt | bovinity, brilliant :-) | 13:27 |
| jakin | sounds good | 13:27 |
| tannewt | bovinity, you are the man | 13:27 |
| * jakin notices that jurisdictions aren't in alphabetical order | 13:32 | |
| nathany_ | jakin: alphabetical according to who's alphabet? :) | 13:35 |
| jakin | nathany_, huh? | 13:35 |
| nathany_ | the jurisdiction listing on the website isn't alphabetical because different locales collate characters differently... so we just alphabetize by the country code (not sure if that was what you were talking about, so i'll butt out now :) ) | 13:36 |
| jakin | nathany_, oh, yeah, i was talking about the license chooser, although it's out of order for the same reason. at least on the desktop we can fix that, though :-) | 13:38 |
| jakin | liblicense, license chooser | 13:38 |
| nathany_ | we can certainly try | 13:38 |
| jakin | qt seems to have a locale-aware string compare. but i'm no expert on alphabets | 13:39 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6826 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/macros_templates/ (deed.pt engine.pt partner.pt popup.pt): Headers slot for base templates. | 13:42 |
| jakin | tannewt, alright, i think kde's up to speed | 13:42 |
| tannewt | jakin, rock on | 13:42 |
| jakin | it's a little odd that in the default chooser itself selecting "License Selected Below" loads the default, but that's a rare circumstance that the user would notice | 13:45 |
| tannewt | jakin, mine only does that in the nautilus stuff | 13:50 |
| jakin | you have it emit a signal when the radio buttons change? | 13:51 |
| jakin | tannewt, | 13:51 |
| tannewt | jakin, it emits "changed" with the license value or None | 13:51 |
| CIA-39 | tannewt * r6827 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/src/ (gui_gtk.py.in nautilus-liblicense.py): Set default license if no license exists for the given file then turn off the chooser. | 13:52 |
| jakin | tannewt, explain... | 13:52 |
| jakin | what's emitted when "Select license below" is selected? | 13:52 |
| tannewt | jakin, the uri for the current license | 13:52 |
| jakin | but wouldn't that be nothing? | 13:52 |
| jakin | tannewt, | 13:52 |
| jakin | oh.... | 13:53 |
| tannewt | toggling the radio buttons just activates/deactivates the checkboxes etc but does not change their state | 13:53 |
| jakin | i think that commit message explains it | 13:53 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, BTW, please keep comparing against JsWidget; we should have a pretty similar UI, so your decisions should inform mine and vice-versa. | 13:53 |
| paulproteus | http://labs.creativecommons.org/jswidget/trunk/example_web_app/ | 13:54 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, well, soon enough you'll be working on both | 13:54 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, So save me some energy and maybe save you some thinking and unify sooner rather than later. | 13:54 |
| jakin | we're hopefully done with ui changes :-/ | 13:55 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, well, I dont want to do any major rework which is what would be needed | 13:55 |
| jakin | (and this isn't a ui change) | 13:55 |
| paulproteus | Oh, okay. | 13:55 |
| * paulproteus wanders off again | 13:55 | |
| tannewt | paulproteus, frankly, I know you dislike the UI but I'm just working off what I was asked to do | 13:55 |
| * paulproteus shrugs, okay | 13:55 | |
| tannewt | paulproteus, I don't think its that bad anyhow | 13:56 |
| CIA-39 | jakin44 * r6828 /liblicense-kde/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): | 14:08 |
| CIA-39 | -If a file doesn't have a license, fill in the chooser with the default license. it is the license that will be selected when "No license" is unselected. | 14:08 |
| CIA-39 | -Update deps | 14:08 |
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| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6829 /jswidget/trunk/ (gen_template_js.py gen_translations.py): adding support for generating translations in .js files rather than evil DOM storage | 14:14 |
| CIA-39 | tannewt * r6830 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/src/ (gui_gtk.py.in nautilus-liblicense.py): Fixed bug when modifying multiple files. | 14:16 |
| CIA-39 | jakin44 * r6831 /liblicense-kde/trunk/license-widget/licensechooser.cpp: Select the correct combobox when setting a license (when a combination of flags returns more than one license). | 14:18 |
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| CIA-39 | bse * r6832 /ccwordpress/trunk/www/images/international/ (nz-logo.png nz.png): New Zealand images. | 14:23 |
| CIA-39 | tannewt * r6833 /livecontent/: Initial module for livecontent scripts. | 14:38 |
| CIA-39 | nkinkade * r6834 /ccoer/trunk/scripts/cc_oer/ (import_csv.py import_rss.py): Fixed problem with adding empty tags. | 14:47 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, do you want the live content scripts to be in a directory trunk/scripts or just trunk? | 14:50 |
| paulproteus | Just trunk should be okay. | 14:51 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, alright | 14:51 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6835 /jswidget/trunk/ (Makefile complete.js): hopefully no longer needs to store translations in the DOM | 14:51 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, should I add the home directory? | 14:53 |
| paulproteus | Oh, huh. | 14:54 |
| paulproteus | How big is it? | 14:54 |
| tannewt | ~200 mb i think | 14:55 |
| paulproteus | nathany_, ^^ | 14:55 |
| tannewt | because of the content | 14:55 |
| paulproteus | What make you of this? | 14:55 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, The best thing would be if you could have a script that maps filenames to URLs to grab them from, and a script I can run that replaces placeholder files you commit with downloadable URLs. | 14:56 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, doesn't that defeat the purpose of svn in the first place? | 14:57 |
| paulproteus | Not really; you consider the media files "generated files" that you don't version. | 14:58 |
| nathany_ | tannewt: only if we care about versioning the files | 14:58 |
| nathany_ | right, what he said | 14:58 |
| tannewt | oh right, just for the media files | 14:59 |
| nathany_ | right | 14:59 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, Exactly. | 14:59 |
| tannewt | I could commit everything but the content contents | 14:59 |
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| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6836 /jswidget/trunk/.htaccess: UTF-8, I mean it | 15:10 |
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| tannewt | paulproteus, so you want everything but the media files? | 15:38 |
| paulproteus | Preferably zero out the media files, so the filenames do get committed, and write a script that looks for those specific files and inflates (i.e., downloads) or deflates (i.e., makes zero-byte) them. | 15:39 |
| paulproteus | Keep the generated thumbnails in svn. | 15:39 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, that doesn't make much sense to me because they wont be used in version 2 and I only want to spend a minimal amount of time on this | 15:40 |
| paulproteus | The generated thumbnails won't? In that case, don't include 'em. | 15:40 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6837 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/chooser.py: Wiki license (eww) bug fix. | 15:41 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, all of the media wont | 15:41 |
| paulproteus | Well, okay then. | 15:42 |
| paulproteus | I'd still like the ability to recreate your LiveContent 1.0 CDs somehow. | 15:42 |
| paulproteus | Can I just ask you to do something reasonable and tell me later what it was that you did? | 15:42 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, sure, I'll upload everything but the contents of the five content directories to svn | 15:43 |
| paulproteus | And you've put those five content directories somewhere I can access them or provided instructions on how to recreate them? | 15:44 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, the directories will be included in svn but will have nothing in them so that in future revisions you can just drop content in | 15:45 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, if you want the old content you can pull it off the cd | 15:45 |
| paulproteus | Pull it off the CD isn't great. | 15:45 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, or ask tvol for it | 15:45 |
| paulproteus | Can you do anything else? | 15:45 |
| paulproteus | Can you just make a tarball of them and stick it somewhere? | 15:45 |
| paulproteus | Then I'll put it in my apps.cc.org $HOME along with a note that that's where to find it. | 15:45 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, sure, I can throw it on cc-livecontent.dreamhosters.com | 15:46 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 15:46 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6838 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/ (chooser.py chooser_pages/index.pt configure.zcml): Fix for emailing license information. | 15:53 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6839 /jswidget/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): translations largely work without wasting space in DOM | 15:59 |
| CIA-39 | jakin44 * r6840 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/src/nautilus-liblicense.py: Add a note for a minor (potential) TODO | 16:11 |
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| bov | ride the tubes! | 17:21 |
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| bse__ | hahah | 17:26 |
| bse__ | wf is going on | 17:26 |
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| jakin | whee! | 17:26 |
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| CIA-39 | bse * r6841 /ccwordpress/trunk/cc4/ (9 files): Major layout enhancements. Minutiae remain. | 17:40 |
| CIA-39 | bse * r6842 /ccwordpress/trunk/cc4/nav.php: Bad Blog tab! Don't activate on home page! | 17:44 |
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| CIA-39 | tannewt * r6843 /livecontent/ (700 files in 167 dirs): LiveContent home directory minus content and build scripts. | 18:00 |
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| tannewt | paulproteus, there you go its in svn and the Desktop directory is http://cc-livecontent.dreamhosters.com/livecontent-desktop.tar.gz | 18:03 |
| CIA-39 | tannewt * r6844 /liblicense/trunk/PRESS.asheesh: Removed old file. | 18:10 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6845 /jswidget/trunk/gen_translations.py: better at extraction | 18:11 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6846 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/ (chooser_pages/index.pt macros_templates/metadata.pt): Rollovers for chooser. | 18:12 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6847 /ccwordpress/trunk/www/includes/help.js: Rollovers for chooser. | 18:12 |
| CIA-39 | bse * r6848 /ccwordpress/trunk/cc4/nav.php: un-stupify the Blog tab. | 18:14 |
| CIA-39 | tannewt * r6849 /liblicense/tags/0.4/: tag for 0.4 release | 18:14 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6850 /i18n/trunk/data/en/jswidget.Desire_license_in_specific_jurisdiction.html: duplicate string | 18:15 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6851 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/macros_templates/support.pt: Navigation steps macros for PD. | 18:16 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6852 /jswidget/trunk/template.html: the strings we actually should have been using for a long time | 18:18 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6853 /license_xsl/trunk/licensexsl_tools/convert.py: accept unicode if it already is | 18:18 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6854 /jswidget/trunk/gen_translations.py: handles sets and lists right, plus prints gratuitiously | 18:20 |
| CIA-39 | nyergler * r6855 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/i18n.py: Handle browsers where no http-accept language is specified (jon!). | 18:28 |
| tannewt | wow, thats hard work | 18:39 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6856 /jswidget/trunk/template.html: oh my God, the strings are finally what they should be - except the ones I haven't changed yet | 18:41 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6857 /jswidget/trunk/gen_template_js.py: stop trying to write a JSON writer myself | 18:43 |
| CIA-39 | tannewt * r6858 /liblicense-gnome/tags/0.4/: tag for 0.4 release | 19:01 |
| CIA-39 | jakin44 * r6859 /liblicense-kde/trunk/license-kcm/kcm_liblicense.cpp: version 0.4 | 19:02 |
| CIA-39 | bse * r6860 /ccwordpress/trunk/cc4/sidebar.php: Hooked Jurisdiction chooser back up | 19:11 |
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| tannewt | paulproteus, 0.4 tarballs are up | 19:32 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, zomg. | 19:32 |
| tannewt | :-) | 19:32 |
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| CIA-39 | bse * r6862 /ccwordpress/trunk/cc4/ (header.php index.php style.css): | 20:06 |
| CIA-39 | * Moved the strapline, now an H4 in the homepage "What is CC" block. I wasn't happy with the balance offset under the logo. | 20:06 |
| CIA-39 | * Spacing tweaks. | 20:06 |
| bse__ | i appreciate that, CIA-39 | 20:06 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6863 /i18n/trunk/data/en/jswidget.short.html: the real short string we will probably use | 20:09 |
| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6864 /jswidget/trunk/template.html: hopefully final strings and info box placement | 20:10 |
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| CIA-39 | paulproteus * r6865 /i18n/trunk/data/en/jswidget.no_license_chosen.html: no license | 21:29 |
| supervillain | I installed liblicense-gnome and python-nautilus, and restarted nautilus, but I can't see the cc properties editor in nautilus. Is there anything I need to do? | 21:35 |
| paulproteus | supervillain, I'm about to head out, but you should email the cc-devel list and ask for help there. | 21:35 |
| paulproteus | Or email the author, Scott - his email address should be easy enough to find in the package. | 21:35 |
| paulproteus | http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-devel | 21:35 |
| supervillain | thanks. | 21:36 |
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| tannewt | supervillain, I wrote liblicense, whats up? | 21:48 |
| supervillain | tannewt: how do I see the nautilus properties for cc? | 21:50 |
| tannewt | supervillain, what prefix did you install ll-gnome to? | 21:51 |
| tannewt | supervillain, it probably should be /usr | 21:53 |
| tannewt | supervillain, my guess is that the liblicense extension is being put in the wrong directory | 21:53 |
| supervillain | wait I'll check it | 21:54 |
| supervillain | I have /usr/lib/liblicense.so.0.0.0 and /usr/lib/liblicense/ | 21:56 |
| tannewt | supervillain, okay, but what about when you installed the gnome stuff | 21:56 |
| tannewt | supervillain, my directory is /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/python/nautilus-liblicense.py | 21:57 |
| tannewt | supervillain, minus the directory part | 21:57 |
| tannewt | :-) | 21:57 |
| supervillain | tannewt: I also have /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/python/nautilus-liblicense.py and python-nautilus is installed in /usr/lib/nautilus-python/ | 21:58 |
| tannewt | supervillain, did you try running nautilus from command line to see if there is an error? | 21:59 |
| supervillain | tannewt: yes, this is the errors http://pastebin.com/f56b0a43f | 22:01 |
| tannewt | supervillain, looks like a nautilus-python bug, what distro you on? | 22:02 |
| supervillain | I'm using feisty fawn | 22:03 |
| supervillain | ubuntu | 22:03 |
| tannewt | supervillain, hmm, well I'm gentoo and dont know what to tell you except that its a nautilus-python problem | 22:03 |
| supervillain | I think the problem is it can't find the /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so, slocate says, /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1 | 22:05 |
| supervillain | /usr/lib/libpython2.5.so.1.0 | 22:05 |
| supervillain | I'll try creating a symbolic link | 22:05 |
| supervillain | wow, now it's working! | 22:07 |
| tannewt | supervillain, rock on, what do you think? | 22:07 |
| supervillain | tannewt: will it automatically create emblems for the particular file, because I it doesn't get displayed | 22:08 |
| supervillain | tannewt: I think this should be included default. | 22:08 |
| tannewt | supervillain, emblems should be added after you license something | 22:09 |
| supervillain | tannewt: will the file I license will be uploaded? | 22:11 |
| supervillain | tannewt: still the file doesn't get emblemized | 22:15 |
| tannewt | supervillain, no its doesn't upload anything, just embeds the license | 22:16 |
| tannewt | supervillain, you probably need to update your icon cache | 22:16 |
| supervillain | ok | 22:16 |
| supervillain | tannewt: btw, where is the icons for the cc emblems? | 22:18 |
| tannewt | supervillain, they should end up in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/emblems/scalable or something like that | 22:19 |
| tannewt | supervillain, gotta run, I'll be back in about two hours but you can also ask jakin questions | 22:20 |
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| supervillain | ok, thank you! | 22:20 |
| supervillain | I'll try to log backin | 22:21 |
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