Monday, 2007-08-20

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ivhhi, from the topic I read that this is the wrong place to ask about a certain cc-license and use of work?03:54
CIA-39fourstones * r6793 /cchost/trunk/mixter-files/home.xml: bbe announce04:22
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dasdsaahere can i find cc?04:50
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cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: DJ Vadim Releases Album Tracks under CC <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7619>05:03
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cchelpbotNew news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: User:Paquillo Dubois <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:Paquillo_Dubois>06:51
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tvolgood morning tannewt11:15
tannewthey hey tvol11:15
tvollast week for you, eh?11:16
tannewttvol, totally11:16
tvolhow's olpc stuff going?11:16
tannewttvol, its technically don ebut needs pushing to get it in11:17
tannewttvol, this week is not a hacking week, its brain dump and release week11:18
tvoli see11:18
tvolahh, brain dumps11:18
tannewtyup, time to pass the torch11:19
tannewttvol, how are things with you?11:21
tvoltannewt--going well. doing lots of cooking and ramping up for school stuff too11:21
tannewttvol, excellent, I've begun working on some course material for the class I TA11:22
tvolcool which is that?11:22
tannewttvol, the intro to programming course11:22
tvoltannewt, rad.11:22
tannewttotally11:23
tannewttvol, alright, I gotta go to work, we can talk more when I get there11:23
tvollater11:23
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CIA-39nkinkade * r6794 /ccoer/trunk/www/services/tagservice.php: Fixed small bug in tagservice.php12:23
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* paulproteus waves to tvol and the rest of y'all13:12
tannewtjakin, did we decide against custom uris?13:13
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tvolmorning paulproteus13:14
jakintannewt, exactly do you mean by custom uris?13:14
jakin^what13:14
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tannewtjakin, where they type in say, an old license13:15
tannewtjakin, seems like it'd be better to not do that13:15
tannewtrejon, when will you be in?13:15
rejonafter lunch13:16
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tannewtrejon, isn't ralph giles coming in?13:17
jakintannewt, yeah, i wouldn't worry about it13:17
rejonyah, this afternoon13:17
rejonlike 4 pm13:17
tannewtjakin, which field did you have the combobox for? uri or license?13:17
tannewtrejon, ah13:17
rejonyes, should allow for custom uris13:17
rejonotherwise, allow for possible incompatibilities13:18
rejonok, so someone has set a license, then they remove all the license RDF files on a system, that shouldn't break the selection, right13:18
rejonthat would then be a custom URI13:18
tannewtrejon, oh, when a uri is loaded that we dont know about13:19
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rejonright13:19
rejonshould allow for13:19
tannewtrejon, right, makes sense13:19
rejonyou could put a warning n that warning box, (like where the error/warning goes)13:19
rejonthat we talked about on friday13:19
tannewtrejon, but thats from a read standpoint, what about from a write standpoint?13:20
tannewtrejon, right, we never figured out how to set no license through the gui though13:20
rejonsimilar to jswidget13:21
rejonneed radio buttons up above the checkboxes13:21
tannewtok13:21
rejon(X) No license  (  ) Set license below:13:21
rejonmakes sense, right?13:22
paulproteustannewt, http://labs.creativecommons.org/jswidget/trunk/ for a demo of that13:22
paulproteushttp://labs.creativecommons.org/jswidget/trunk/example_web_app/ rather.13:22
paulproteusEr, wait.13:22
* tannewt waits13:22
paulproteusYeah, that link does work, but you might need to shift-reload.13:22
paulproteusIs it slow for you?13:23
tannewtshould it be possible to set the default as no license?13:24
jakintannewt, makes sense13:24
rejonhhmmm...better to put it in that order too tannewt13:24
rejonlike on asheesh' jswidget13:25
paulproteushttp://labs.creativecommons.org/jswidget/trunk/example_web_app/default-is-no-license.html13:25
tannewtminus the CC specific stuff13:25
paulproteusFWIW I support the option of "no license" is the default.13:25
tannewtok13:25
jakinthat's the way it is now, it just isn't very explicit13:25
tannewtyup13:27
paulproteuszomg, Andy Orlowski is hilarious.13:28
rejonyah, a lil morning comedy for us!13:29
paulproteus"That's the rubbishy sub-notebook designed for developing countries, that developing countries don't seem to want very much."13:29
paulproteusTo substantiate this claim, he links to the *Fake Steve Jobs* blog.13:30
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tannewtbovinity, any idea for a no license icon?13:39
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rejon(C)13:40
paulproteusBetter hope you can find a public domain (C) icon.13:41
bovinityyou speak of emblems?13:41
bovinitybecause, it owuld be silly to have one on every single bloody file, just to denote whether or not it has a license13:42
bovinityonly emblem licensed files13:42
rejonhow about a big lock icon13:43
rejonyes, agree with bovinity13:43
bovinitythat's already used for.. locked.. files13:43
bovinitylocked/RO13:43
tannewtbovinity, I only need it for the OLPC because otherwise there is no way to know where to click for a license13:43
bovinityi see13:44
bovinityhmm13:44
bovinityyou need an icon that denotes a blank space.13:45
bovinityan open circle?13:45
tannewtbovinity, something like that could work13:46
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rejonor the cirlce with a slash through it13:52
rejonlike no permission13:52
rejonfor anything13:52
rejonno smoking13:53
rejonbitches13:53
bovinityyes. that would teach them life lessons too! excellent.13:53
tannewt:-)13:54
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CIA-39nyergler * r6795 /scicom/scholars/trunk/: Ignore the sqlite database created at run-time.13:55
CIA-39nyergler * r6796 /scicom/scholars/tags/sc_20070820/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Tagging current state.13:55
CIA-39nyergler * r6797 /scicom/scholars/tags/sc_20070820/: Removing mis-tag.13:55
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bovinityargh14:35
CIA-39nkinkade * r6799 /ccoer/trunk/scripts/cc_oer/ (4 files): Renamed scripts. Made scripts more generalized for any file14:37
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tannewtbovinity, lunch?15:11
bovinityindeed15:12
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tannewtjakin, is the kde4 uri the combobox?15:58
jakintannewt, yeah15:58
tannewtjakin, wouldn't the license one be better because its human readable?15:58
jakintannewt, yeah, let's do that :-)16:00
tannewtjakin, then the uri entry should not be editable16:00
tannewtjakin, the license stuff should just be able to display unknown uris16:00
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jakintannewt, sounds good16:01
tannewtjakin, alrighty16:02
CIA-39tannewt * r6800 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/src/gui_gtk.py.in: Added 'no license' radiobuttons.16:02
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* jakin sees now why he picked the uri to be the combobox16:15
tannewteh?16:16
jakineasier to code :-P16:16
tannewt:-) yeah16:16
tannewtjakin, I get to code it in python though :-)16:17
paulproteusjakin, Is the new build system fairly stable and therefore worth trying new, more-correct packages for?16:17
jakintannewt, no worries... i got it.  I can associate some data with each entry16:17
tannewtjakin, cool16:18
jakintannewt, yeah, i don't have any planned modifications16:18
jakintannewt, it seems to be working well16:18
jakinany word on sonames? (paulproteus?)16:18
paulproteusjakin, Oh, I can look at that right now.16:19
paulproteusIn fact, I even will.16:19
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paulproteustannewt, 3 for cout << scott.brain.livecontent << endl;16:32
paulproteus3pm, that is.16:32
tannewtpaulproteus, ok16:33
* paulproteus has been pointed to http://people.redhat.com/drepper/dsohowto.pdf re: soname16:33
tannewtpaulproteus, gives me time to wake up after lunch16:33
CIA-39jakin44 * r6801 /liblicense-kde/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs):16:35
CIA-39-Add "No license" radio box16:35
CIA-39-Make the license name the combobox to chooser from when there's multiple matching licenses16:35
CIA-39-URI is no longer editable16:35
jakinaww, "No license" is first? (now I look at the gtk widget)16:36
paulproteusMan, I love virtual address spaces.16:36
* tannewt grins16:36
paulproteusBTW, on mine CC is first.16:37
CIA-39nyergler * r6802 /scicom/scholars/trunk/scicom/scholars/ (app.py dbconn.py stats.py): Updates for sqlalchemy 0.4.16:38
jakinwhat do i wish my mentoring organization had known before I started GSoC? (filling out my final survey :-)16:41
jakinpaulproteus, that document looks fun16:44
CIA-39jakin44 * r6803 / (4 files in 2 dirs):16:52
CIA-39-Match gtk widgit16:52
CIA-39-Have ll_new_license_chooser take a const char* array16:52
paulproteusjakin, BTW, does the above svn change affect the ABI?16:53
jakinpaulproteus, err... if char** -> const char** is binary incompatible, then yes16:54
paulproteusI personally have no idea, but I think after reading this Drepper paper I will.16:55
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CIA-39tannewt * r6804 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/src/gui_gtk.py.in: Add support for multiple licenses per checkbox combination.17:08
CIA-39tannewt * r6805 /liblicense/trunk/bindings/python/liblicense.c: Change -1 to 0 so Python returns False on write operation when appropriate.17:09
paulproteus(But what if the write() operation is actually supposed to write zero bytes?)17:11
jakinthis is ll_write()17:12
paulproteus(I ask this not having read the code in question.)17:12
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* tannewt is out of practice with C17:23
jakinhehe, slacker17:24
tannewtjakin, just a lot of python17:27
* jakin takes any chance he can get to call someone a slacker17:28
jakindo we have any more coding for liblicense 0.4?17:38
tannewtjakin, I'm just amking sure that the default stuff works17:38
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CIA-39nyergler * r6806 /scicom/scholars/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Basic stats implementation.17:46
CIA-39bse * r6807 /ccwordpress/trunk/cc4/: Theme revamp landing directory.17:48
bovinitywow, that was prompt17:48
CIA-39tannewt * r6808 /liblicense/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Flat file support for no license.17:49
CIA-39tannewt * r6809 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/src/gui_gtk.py.in: Widget returns None from get_license if No License is selected.17:50
tannewtpoof17:50
tannewtnow imagine that if it was cc(un)help(ful)bot17:51
jakintannewt, sssh, he can still hear you17:52
tannewtjakin, thats why I skewed the name17:52
jakintannewt, watch out.  he's smarter than he acts17:52
tannewtjakin, okay, thanks for the warning17:52
tannewtjakin, will you watch my (digital) back?17:53
jakintannewt, yeah, don't worry17:53
tannewtjakin, phew, thanks17:53
jakini've got an 0.4 kde4 tarball that's ready to go17:56
jakinand it's perfect (which I can claim since nobody here has kdelibs4 to test it with)17:56
paulproteusrejon, BTW, see you at 3 in Athena.17:59
CIA-39bse * r6810 /ccwordpress/trunk/cc4/ (7 files): Theme revision! Not finished.17:59
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CIA-39bse * r6811 /ccwordpress/trunk/cc4/nav.php: Tabbed navbar.18:01
rejonyah, one second18:02
CIA-39jakin44 * r6812 /liblicense/trunk/ (README bindings/python/liblicense.c):18:02
CIA-39-Updated deps18:02
CIA-39-char* -> const char* (get rid of a warning)18:02
CIA-39nkinkade * r6813 /ccoer/trunk/scripts/cc_oer/ (import_csv.py import_rss.py): Small fixes and improvements to import scripts.18:03
CIA-39jakin44 * r6814 /liblicense/trunk/po/Makefile.in: Include po/Makefile.in in 'make dist'18:06
CIA-39jakin44 * r6815 /liblicense-gnome/trunk/ (README configure.ac): Release preparations18:12
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CIA-39nkinkade * r6816 /ccoer/trunk/scripts/cc_oer/import_csv.py: Fixed CSV import script for incompat. between python 2.5.1 and 2.4.419:03
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