| gavinbaker | paulproteus: here's the bug you told me to file like a week ago: https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=17480 | 00:00 |
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| patbam | hi folks. can anyone point me to some information about appyling cc licenses to translations? googling tends to get me translations of the licenses themselves | 01:09 |
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| paulproteus | Hey patbam! | 01:25 |
| paulproteus | Are you patfm from #joiito but now speaking Portuguese in Brazil | 01:26 |
| patbam | heya paulproteus | 01:26 |
| paulproteus | ? | 01:26 |
| patbam | yup, that's me =] | 01:26 |
| paulproteus | Whoa. | 01:26 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, as for using CC licenses for translations, I'm not quite sure what you had in mind. | 01:26 |
| paulproteus | Are these CC-licensed works? | 01:26 |
| paulproteus | Or are the originals All Rights Reserved | 01:26 |
| paulproteus | ? | 01:26 |
| paulproteus | Sorry, I made this laptop keyboard suck by washing it, but it's okay because I just asked IBM to send me a new one for my stupidity. | 01:27 |
| patbam | hehe, don't mention the washing bit in the "send me a new one" email ;) | 01:29 |
| patbam | anyway, yeah, there seems to have once been a cc mailing list specifically about translation and cc | 01:29 |
| paulproteus | I called them up, and they said it's on its way, and I didn't, so we're golden. (-: | 01:29 |
| patbam | but apparently it's dead now | 01:29 |
| patbam | hehe | 01:29 |
| paulproteus | Aww, how sad! (URL for it?) | 01:29 |
| patbam | there was apparently even a discussion of a specific translation license | 01:30 |
| patbam | http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/4150 | 01:30 |
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| patbam | someone named heather ford was working on it, but i don't think she is any more -- i sent her a few emails a while back (maybe over a year now) and never got a response | 01:30 |
| patbam | doh! wait! it's undead | 01:30 |
| patbam | http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-translation/ good grief. | 01:31 |
| patbam | well, not too active. | 01:31 |
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| paulproteus | Yeah, not too active.9 | 01:31 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, what's the permission story on the original work? | 01:32 |
| paulproteus | Meaning, is it All Rights Reserved, or does it use a CC license to grant permissions, or is it GPLware software, or what? | 01:33 |
| patbam | i just want to learn about compatibility issues in general; i'm working on a site for translating arbitrary stuff, and i want ot add licensing functionality | 01:33 |
| paulproteus | Oh, interesting.9 | 01:33 |
| paulproteus | I guess I should have let this keyboard dry a little longer.9 | 01:33 |
| paulproteus | Yaah.9 | 01:33 |
| paulproteus | YAH! | 01:33 |
| patbam | lol.9 | 01:34 |
| paulproteus | l9ol9 | 01:34 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, I guess you should ask the cc-community list, which is way more active than this channel. | 01:34 |
| paulproteus | If you're lucky, an official CC person might reply with some useful tips. | 01:34 |
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| tannewt | lol | 01:37 |
| tannewt | .9 | 01:37 |
| patbam | okay paulproteus, thanks.9 | 01:37 |
| paulproteus | You're l9aughing now, Scott, but one day you'l9l9 know see.9 | 01:37 |
| paulproteus | You got it, patbam.9 | 01:38 |
| tannewt | haha | 01:38 |
| tannewt | I've successfully washed a keyboard before.9 | 01:38 |
| paulproteus | Luser error.9 )-: | 01:38 |
| paulproteus | Oh, wel9l, at l9east I didn't l9ose any money out of it, and I needed IBM to send me some fresh screws anyway given how worn my current ones are.9 | 01:39 |
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| jakin | tannewt, what are you going to be working on tomorrow? I've got the build system in disarray and would like to avoid conflicts :-/ | 01:40 |
| tannewt | jakin, informal publicity and sugar stuff (not liblicense coding yet) | 01:41 |
| tannewt | just learning sugar | 01:41 |
| jakin | tannewt, okay cool. pretty much, zero commits until I commit all this reoganization would be nice | 01:42 |
| tannewt | jakin, alright, I'll let you know when I'm gonna start hacking on it | 01:43 |
| jakin | i think it's done, but i'll look over it and commit tomorrow. did we decide on a name? | 01:43 |
| jakin | liblicense-{kde,gnome}? | 01:43 |
| tannewt | that works | 01:46 |
| jakin | cool, cool | 01:48 |
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| paulproteus | tannewt, My housemates ordered pizza tonight. | 01:52 |
| paulproteus | Whoa, my '.' ey wors etter now! | 01:52 |
| paulproteus | But not the k key. | 01:52 |
| * tannewt grins | 01:53 | |
| paulproteus | Life with two gigs of RAM doesn't feel a whole lot different from life with one. | 01:54 |
| paulproteus | But then again Java code is compiling extremely fast. | 01:54 |
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| paulproteus | Lie 477 classes in under 6 seconds or something, it's crazy. | 01:55 |
| patbam | life with half a gig is dreadful =] | 01:59 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, Do you think I just didn't wait long enough for the keyboard to dry | 02:03 |
| paulproteus | ? | 02:03 |
| paulproteus | Or maybe there was some gunk in the keyboard that I didn't wash out well enough so now it's concentrated in some keys? | 02:04 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, not sure | 02:05 |
| paulproteus | Either way, it's not such a huge deal since IBM will send me a replacement. | 02:06 |
| * paulproteus rolls his eyes | 02:06 | |
| tannewt | its still funny | 02:08 |
| paulproteus | I now. | 02:08 |
| paulproteus | +k | 02:08 |
| paulproteus | I only admitted to it hoping someone would find it funny. (-: | 02:08 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, Hey, do you use Jabber? | 02:36 |
| paulproteus | I want to test my connectivity to the Jabber network. | 02:36 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, yeah but I'm about to go to bed | 02:37 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, Can you try IMing asheesh@rose.makesad.us ? | 02:37 |
| paulproteus | Or tell me yours? | 02:37 |
| paulproteus | Sweet. | 02:38 |
| patbam | paulproteus: i can try | 02:38 |
| paulproteus | patbam, I just verified it, but later on I'll need someone to test asheesh@asheesh.org with, so soon. (-: | 02:38 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, You got my replies? | 02:38 |
| paulproteus | Oh, well, I got his messages, good enough for now. (-: | 02:39 |
| tannewt | see you tomorrow | 02:42 |
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| paulproteus | patbam, Try IMing asheesh@asheesh.org | 02:48 |
| paulproteus | patbam, Let me know if you can try IMing. | 02:53 |
| patbam | ok, trying | 02:55 |
| paulproteus | Awesome, thanks. | 02:57 |
| paulproteus | Hooray for Internet open standards! | 02:57 |
| paulproteus | And hooray for useful software that implements those standards! | 02:57 |
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| tannewt | nathany, it doesn't look like sugar integration is going to work | 12:55 |
| nathany | tannewt: why's that? | 12:55 |
| tannewt | nathany, for one the journal doesn't support sharing yet | 12:56 |
| nathany | why is sharing a prerequisite for license selection? | 12:57 |
| tannewt | nathany, and second, the devs are busy so we can't work out how to integrate it | 12:57 |
| tannewt | nathany, I'm going to talk with them in about an hour on irc | 12:57 |
| tannewt | nathany, on #sugar | 12:58 |
| nathany | tannewt: ok... i thought rebecca had mocked up a default license selector activity... wouldn't that exist outside of journal? | 12:58 |
| tannewt | nathany, perhaps, I didn't know we had a default license selector for sugar | 12:59 |
| nathany | i thought you talked to rrrojer about this yesterday | 13:00 |
| tannewt | nathany, we did but the mockups (theirs and ours) are inconsistent with what is implemented currently | 13:00 |
| tannewt | nathany, so I was going to talk with the devs about it | 13:01 |
| nathany | tannewt: have you even put together a toolchain to poke at the sugar code yet? | 13:01 |
| tannewt | nathany, I dont have the code on my laptop but updated the real machines | 13:02 |
| nathany | tannewt: and you can do development on the machines themselves? | 13:03 |
| nathany | i'm not clear on that... | 13:03 |
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| tannewt | nathany, not really, but I wanted to have our machines have a journal so that we could get a feel for what the current implementation is | 13:04 |
| nathany | tannewt: i see; well perhaps it would be good to get the toolchain on your laptop so you can actually make progress once you talk to the sugar developers | 13:05 |
| tannewt | nathany, alright, I can do that today | 13:06 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, What do you say to an apt repository on labs-dot? | 13:12 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: just replied to your email | 13:14 |
| paulproteus | Egad. | 13:14 |
| paulproteus | My brother sent me a link to http://xkcd.com/297/ this morning. | 13:16 |
| paulproteus | Sweet re: mirrors-dot. | 13:16 |
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| cchelpbot | New news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: Amarok developer hired by Magnatune <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7590> || Introducing Desktop Licensing <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7589> || CC at OSCON, Eric Steuer on Slideshare <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7588> || SPARC Video Contest - Mind Mashup <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7587> || Strange Horizons goes Creative Commons <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7586> || Rhizome integrates Creative Commons licenses into ArtBase <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7584> || Announcing ccLearn - the education division of Creative Commons <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7583> || CC Salon SF on WED, Aug 8 from 7-9 PM: Bittorent and Intern Presentations! <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7582> || Volunteers for LinuxWorld <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7581> || Vinismo Opens Its Doors to Wine Lovers Everywhere <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7580> | 14:00 |
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| paulproteus | tannewt, Let me know here if I'm being an idiot on #sugar. | 14:01 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, I'm going to test out my packages for liblicense now and build them on Debian and Ubuntu. | 14:03 |
| tannewt | paulproteus, thanks | 14:04 |
| paulproteus | nathany, I think that there is no deb repository on mirrors-dot. | 14:08 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@apps:/web/mirrors/www$ find | grep Packages.gz | 14:08 |
| paulproteus | That returns nothing. | 14:08 |
| nathany | paulproteus: yes; there are files which can be downloaded, not as a deb repos | 14:10 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Oh, I see. | 14:10 |
| nathany | but that's where the deb repos should live | 14:10 |
| paulproteus | Got it. | 14:10 |
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| paulproteus | paulproteus@apps:/web/mirrors/www$ find | grep [.]deb | 14:10 |
| paulproteus | ./cchost/docbuild/phpDocumentor/Smarty-2.6.0/libs/plugins/function.debug.php | 14:10 |
| paulproteus | ./cchost/docbuild/phpDocumentor/Smarty-2.6.0/libs/plugins/modifier.debug_print_var.php | 14:10 |
| tannewt | nathany, who at CC talked to someone at OLPC? | 14:10 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, My guess is rejon. | 14:11 |
| nathany | tannewt: rejon | 14:11 |
| tannewt | nathany, I'm just needing to discuss with the exactly what we're doing integration wise | 14:12 |
| nathany | tannewt: i'm in a mtg, we can talk later | 14:13 |
| tannewt | nathany, alright | 14:13 |
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| gavinbaker | paulproteus: not sure if you saw, here's the MozCC bug you told me to file: https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=17480 | 14:26 |
| paulproteus | gavinbaker, Right, thanks. | 14:26 |
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| tannewt | paulproteus, http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/2007-July/005938.html | 14:43 |
| paulproteus | This thread seems to be taking care of itself. | 14:44 |
| paulproteus | The "Lifelong Kindergarten Group" at the MIT Media Lab made scratch.mit.edu. | 14:45 |
| paulproteus | Interesting. | 14:45 |
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| tvol_ | rrrojer i've got some more info for the flyer coming your way shortly' | 14:51 |
| rrrojer | tvol_: cool | 14:52 |
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| gavinbaker | paulproteus: those Media Lab people are always doing something neat | 15:25 |
| gavinbaker | kinda makes me wish i was 11 again | 15:25 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, BTW, plan for today is to look at log stuff, see if I can publish these liblicense packages in a proper APT repository, and go home two hours early because of the time I spent from 2 to 4 am today. | 15:55 |
| nathany | ok | 15:55 |
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| jakin | can someone point me to the "right way" of adding l10n to a python project? | 16:19 |
| jakin | extracting messages, build system, etc | 16:20 |
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| paulproteus | jakin, Well, the gettext module documentation seems a natural place to start. | 16:24 |
| paulproteus | Basically, you import gettext first thing, and then instead of printing "string", you print _("string"). | 16:25 |
| jakin | paulproteus, i got the code aspects worked out, it's the build system and extracting messages that puzzles me | 16:25 |
| jakin | i know i need to generate the po files, compile them to mo... but i'm asking "how" | 16:25 |
| paulproteus | The Zope book I just read most of has a good description of good practices and howtos. | 16:25 |
| * paulproteus nods | 16:26 | |
| paulproteus | Let me see if the chapter/book is available on the web. | 16:26 |
| paulproteus | Actually: | 16:27 |
| paulproteus | Have you seen http://docs.python.org/lib/node738.html ? | 16:27 |
| jakin | yeah... i'm wondering where pygettext comes from | 16:28 |
| paulproteus | There's a footnote about an alternative package, po-utils. | 16:28 |
| jakin | i'd be nice to just find another application that does it right, and follow that | 16:29 |
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| paulproteus | Well, isn't it as easy as (a) always use translatable strings like _("string"), and (b) extract them using the po-utils package, and (c) use the extracted things to create some .po files? | 16:30 |
| jakin | it doesn't seem very widely used | 16:30 |
| jakin | (a) is easy | 16:30 |
| jakin | if that's the typical way of doing it, i'd think there'd be a po-utils ebuild by now :-/ | 16:31 |
| paulproteus | And it's not in Debian, either. | 16:32 |
| paulproteus | But: | 16:32 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@asheesh:~ $ which pygettext | 16:32 |
| paulproteus | /usr/bin/pygettext | 16:32 |
| paulproteus | I think it comes with Python. | 16:32 |
| paulproteus | paulproteus@asheesh:~ $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/pygettext | 16:32 |
| paulproteus | python: /usr/bin/pygettext | 16:32 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, there we are. | 16:32 |
| paulproteus | jakin, So you can do (b) with pygettext instead of po-utils. | 16:33 |
| jakin | i'm still trying to figure out where i can get pygettext on my system | 16:34 |
| paulproteus | In a Python 2.4 tarball, it seems to come in Python-2.4/Tools/i18n/pygettext.py. | 16:34 |
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| paulproteus | Does Gentoo maybe put Python's bundled tools somewhere other than /usr/bin, or maybe provide a separate e.g. python-extra-tools or python-i18n package? | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | Even if not, you can just grab the file from web. | 16:36 |
| paulproteus | I used to have to do that for redemo.py which Debian didn't ship but I really liked. | 16:36 |
| jakin | and this still doesn't tell me the right way to integrate it into the build. i need an example, period. | 16:36 |
| paulproteus | Or maybe I was using Mandrake back then, I don't remember. | 16:36 |
| jakin | i know i can hack something together... it's the "right way" i'm concerned about ;-) | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | Googling pygettext+Makefile finds http://mail.python.org/pipermail/i18n-sig/2004-June/001874.html | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | Which gives the example of Mailman and a specific file to look at in it. | 16:38 |
| paulproteus | I'm sure Mailman is done right as far as i18n, so hopefully that'll suit your needs. | 16:39 |
| jakin | paulproteus, i'll see, thanks | 16:39 |
| paulproteus | Sure thing, let me know how it goes. | 16:40 |
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| jakin | i got the manual process down, but the build system is (once again) so ugly. i'm saving this for later | 17:01 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, got a musec? | 17:53 |
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| cameronparkins | bov: http://a2.creativecommons.org/participate/ | 19:55 |
| cameronparkins | a bit more slimed down | 19:55 |
| cameronparkins | i have to work on the wiki side to flesh that out a bit more | 19:55 |
| bov | nice | 19:55 |
| cameronparkins | but what do you think? | 19:55 |
| bov | it's looking good | 19:56 |
| bov | could do wiht some relevant art | 19:56 |
| bov | but i dig it | 19:56 |
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| cameronparkins | ok cool | 19:58 |
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| tvol | cameronparkins looks pretty cool...may be a bit much for all on one page...split up? | 19:59 |
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| cameronparkins | its pretty large | 19:59 |
| cameronparkins | tvol: where is the split | 20:00 |
| rejon | morning | 20:04 |
| bov | nah, page is good | 20:04 |
| bov | just needs a sub-nav | 20:04 |
| bov | hey jon | 20:04 |
| rejon | just woke up with that "oh shit, I just missed the whole conf. feeling"...luckily not | 20:04 |
| paulproteus | rejon++ | 20:05 |
| tvol | haha, rejon, are you in yesterday, or tomorrow? | 20:06 |
| tvol | cameronparkins looking at it now | 20:07 |
| rejon | i'm futur-boy | 20:07 |
| cameronparkins | tvol: bov says it will be ok with a nav bar | 20:07 |
| tvol | cool | 20:08 |
| rejon | tannewt: I think all is well olpc wise | 20:08 |
| tannewt | rejon, what do you mean? | 20:09 |
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