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NixOrHi. I'm having trouble with the ccHost installation.06:05
NixOrI keep getting errors in regard to 'Your files root' - either it can't set permissions or it can't create.06:06
NixOrAnyone active on the channel that could point me in the right direction?06:07
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NixOrAnyone active - that might be able to help?06:10
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paulproteusnathany, I find Grok confusing still, btw, and the lack of comments may make sense to someone who's been Zoping all his life but for me it's piles of indirection.12:52
paulproteuse.g., by what magic does the app know that cc_index.pt is the page template to use for the index?12:52
paulproteusI can't find a reference to that file anywhere, so it must be magic.12:52
paulproteusOh, there's a class called Cc_index.12:53
paulproteusI guess that'd do it.12:53
nathanyso it uses some name matching magic to match the module name ("chooser.py")12:54
nathanyto chooser_templates12:54
nathanyviews are mapped directly to grok.View classes12:54
nathanyif not explicitly defined, it looks for [modulename]_templates/[class_name].pt12:54
nathanybut you can also use grok.template('template')12:54
nathanyat the grok.View level12:54
nathanypaulproteus: grok is fairly new to me, too12:55
nathanypaulproteus: i'll be back online shortly...12:55
paulproteustty then12:56
paulproteusWow, nathany, tests really would be great so I know what this code is *supposed* to do. (-:13:07
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tannewtnathany, you get the liblicense stuff up an running?13:20
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nathanyrejon: you in pdx?13:50
rejonyah13:50
nathany@ oscon yet?13:50
rejonin hotel room on conf. call barrage13:50
cchelpbotnathany: Error: "oscon" is not a valid command.13:50
nathanyah, ok13:51
nathanymelissa and i are @ the conv. center13:51
rejonyah, I'll head over ther ein a bit13:51
rejoncool13:51
nathanyi'm finishing my slides for this afternoon, going to upload shortly13:51
rejonfor lunch13:51
rejon1 sec13:51
tannewtnathany, did you get liblicense going? I added it to the control center13:51
tannewtvia a .desktop file13:51
nathanyno, i never managed to get it to build; not sure it was due to a wonky python build or what13:52
nathanyso just going to talk about it as something "coming soon"13:52
tannewtack, what'd it die on?13:52
nathanya call into gtk (which is what makes me think it's possibly not your code, but rather my install)13:53
tannewthuh, email me the error when you get a chance13:53
nathanyok13:53
tannewtnathany, I really wanted to have it done for you to show13:55
nathanytannewt: i know13:55
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tannewtnathany, I could take some screenshots14:04
nathanysure, that'd be great14:05
paulproteustannewt, Do you need/want some last-minute help?14:05
tannewtpaulproteus, well, I'm just taking screenshots, I dont know what the error is that nathan has14:06
paulproteusMaybe I can try building it on my non-Gentoo system....14:06
tannewtsure14:06
paulproteusJust grab the tarball and it should tell me everything?14:06
tannewtpaulproteus, grab svn14:07
paulproteusOkay.14:07
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paulproteustannewt, Yeah, builds for me.14:08
tannewtpaulproteus, rev 6353?14:08
paulproteusWhoa....14:08
paulproteusNo.14:08
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paulproteusHold on.14:08
tannewtpaulproteus, I just commited it, its just configure changes14:09
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paulproteusI was running something days old.14:09
tannewtpaulproteus, thats a shame :-P14:10
paulproteusOkay, compiled + installed fine.14:10
tannewtpaulproteus, is it in your settings and nautilus?14:10
paulproteusThat's all it should take?14:11
paulproteusBTW I did it in /usr/local.14:11
paulproteusTime to restart Nautilus, then.14:11
bovinitywe had issues with nautilus and /usr/local last night14:11
bovinityhad to --prefix=/usr for it to work14:11
bovinityYMMV14:11
paulproteusI'll try /usr now.14:11
paulproteus(Doesn't show up in file properties; is that what should happen?)14:11
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tannewtpaulproteus, yeah, I think I need to detect the prefix for nautilus-python instead14:12
paulproteusDesktop Integration:14:12
paulproteus        GTK widget and app:                     no14:12
paulproteus        Nautilus-python extensions:             no14:12
paulproteusOops, guess I should get myself some packages.14:12
tannewtpaulproteus, pygtk?14:13
tannewtpaulproteus, (yay my configure works)14:13
paulproteusYay re: configure. (-:14:14
nathanytannewt: are you just going to email some screenshots?14:14
paulproteusnathany, Is there a time before which if we get this working for you, you can actually demo it?14:15
tannewtnathany, I was going to dump them on cc-livecd.dreamhosters.com just because I have access to it14:15
nathanytannewt: sounds good14:15
nathanypaulproteus: probably not; as i told tannewt, i'm not sure that the problem is his code14:16
nathanycould be my python build14:16
nathanyi'd rather just show screen shots at this point14:16
paulproteusWell, it should be able to work with the system Python; do you have that still installed?14:16
paulproteusRelatedly, if I make a .deb for it, then maybe that would work out well for you.14:17
nathanyyes, but i don't install dev pkgs into my system python14:17
nathanyscreenshots are fine14:17
* paulproteus shrugs, very well.14:17
nathanypaulproteus: sure, a demo is preferable, i've just learned that adding demos @ the last minute is a sure way to have things blow up :)14:18
paulproteusnathany, Well, that's my question; how last minute are we? (-:14:18
nathanyvery14:18
nathany:)14:18
paulproteusOkay. (-:14:19
nathanythe talk is just following lunch, and i need to get the slides uploaded before then14:19
paulproteusOkay, then I'll get back to my stuff for now. (-:14:20
nathanypaulproteus: on an unrelated note, the folks in #grok are generally very helpful; philiKON is one of the devs, and the author of the Z3 book i have14:20
nathany:)14:20
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paulproteusnathany, Sure, but that doesn't help with the fact that some of your functions have two return lines!14:21
nathanyLOL14:21
paulproteus(Yes, they're both unconditional.)14:21
paulproteustannewt,         GTK widget and app:                     no14:21
nathanyah, yeah... that's from committing testing code... sorry about that14:21
paulproteusWhat do I need to make that a yes?14:21
nathanywhat file?  i'll fix now?14:21
tannewtpaulproteus, pygtk 2.4 (its probably because I required the newest version hehe)14:23
bovinityworks fine for me14:24
paulproteusdef expandLicenseCode(licenseCode, jurisdiction='', locale='', version=None): in ./cc.license_/cc/license/support.py14:24
paulproteus(cctools/cc.license/trunk/ prefix to that)14:24
paulproteus(cctools/cc.engine/trunk/ prefix to that, rather)14:24
nathanypaulproteus: updating now14:24
nathanyright14:25
tannewtnathany, http://cc-livecd.dreamhosters.com/14:27
nathanytannewt: thanks14:28
tannewtbovinity, my latest commit works for you?14:28
bovinityyes14:28
jakintannewt, no luck here with nautilus14:30
tannewtjakin, hi! what prefix?14:30
jakintannewt, /usr14:31
tannewtnathany, how do those look?14:31
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tannewtjakin, huh, is it enabled in configure?14:31
jakintannewt, yup, i got a "yes"14:31
jakintannewt, i see libnautilus-python.so in /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/14:32
tannewtjakin, huh, the directory it should go into is /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/python/14:33
jakintannewt, yeah, i was just wondering why there's an empy 'python' directory14:34
tannewtjakin, :-/14:35
paulproteusjakin, Out of curiosity,, what distro?14:35
* paulproteus wonders if he should try to make debs for you guys14:35
jakintannewt, well, a make clean and make install installed nautilus-liblicense.py in extensions-1.0/python/14:36
nathanytannewt: i'm looking @ them now; slow-ass connection here14:36
jakinpaulproteus, gentoo14:36
paulproteusWell, then .debs wouldn't help you. (-:14:36
nathany(and incredible lag)14:36
jakinhmm, "ImportError: No module named nautilus"14:38
tannewtjakin, weird, which nautilus-python are you using?14:39
jakintannewt, 0.4.3?  it's the first i came across14:39
tannewtjakin, it didn't work for me, I had to use svn, not sure what the error I had was though14:40
jakin:-/14:40
jakini hate dependancies14:41
bovinityubuntu feisty has 0.4.3, and works fine14:41
tannewtjakin, at least you can disable it now :-)14:42
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jakintannewt, alright, it works here... yay for yet another one of your dependancies on svn :-P14:45
tannewtjakin, hey, that one was needed, I tried with 0.4.314:46
jakintannewt, yeah, it's just that it always works out that way14:46
* tannewt grins14:46
jakintannewt, what's the gnome control panel?  (I'm guessing I don't have it installed)14:47
tannewtjakin, gnome-control-center14:48
jakinooh, i crashed it14:48
paulproteusnathany, I finally updated http://wiki.creativecommons.org/JsWidget as well as released 0.2.14:49
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paulproteusBTW the program "ReleaseForge" is very convenient.14:50
nathanypaulproteus: thx14:50
paulproteusnathany, Sure thing.14:50
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rejonnathany: can you download my slides to your machine14:54
rejonfrom that url I sent out14:54
rejoni have not tested this laptop on a projector yet14:55
rejonmaking backups14:55
rejonwill go and test now14:55
rejonbrb14:55
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nathanyrejon: sure14:57
nathanytannewt: images work fine; thanks14:59
tannewttvol_, http://cc-livecd.dreamhosters.com/15:03
tvol_tannewt thanks15:03
tannewtjakin, did raptor die?15:04
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jakintannewt, it was when reading a file with an invalid license15:08
tannewtjakin, hmm15:09
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tannewtjakin, should it use xmp sidecars on mp3 files16:06
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tannewtanyone know how to add nautilus emblems without the gui?16:31
bovinityi think they'll get picked up if you put them in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/emblems/16:32
bovinity /usr and/or /usr/local16:33
paulproteusMan, metacity crashing X is lame.16:35
paulproteusI guess metacity just crashed itself and X was configured to die when metacity did.16:35
luisvhrm, shouldn't16:36
luisvmaybe it was gnome-session that crashed and not metacity?16:36
bovinitymetacity should be set to auto restart in gnome-session16:36
luisv(though really, I haven't seen either of those crash in *ages*)16:36
bovinityquite16:37
paulproteusWell, I was going nuts with devilspie and then when all my windows were no longer accessible I tried metacity --replace.16:37
tannewtbovinity, okay, I'll try that16:38
paulproteusnathany, I figured out what I was doing wrong re: content negotiation, I think.16:40
nathanypaulproteus: coolio16:40
tannewtbovinity, doesn't look like it works for me16:47
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bovinitytannewt, http://ch.tudelft.nl/~arthur/emblems/16:53
tannewtbovinity, that shows how to do it in the ui16:54
bovinityright16:55
paulproteustannewt, You still on this?17:06
tannewtpaulproteus, yeah17:06
paulproteusLet's see...17:06
paulproteustannewt, Looks like there's nothing particularly special to do with emblems, I think.17:08
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jakintannewt, if it finds id3lib it shouldn't use xmp sidecar17:10
tannewtjakin, :-/17:10
jakintannewt, is the problem reading or writing?17:12
tannewtjakin, just that its writing the sidecar17:14
jakintannewt, if you have the id3 module (it shows up in 'license -m') and the mimetype is audio/mpeg, then for some reason id3lib must be failing, so it falls back to xmp17:16
jakinerrr17:17
tannewtjakin, I'll look into it once I get this emblem stuff sorted out17:17
jakintesting it myself, now17:17
jakini could have sworn that was working, but it looks like I just need to invert the return value of id3_write :-P17:18
tannewtjakin, :-P17:18
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tannewtI think I got it, caching issue17:45
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bovinityrejon, that new OLPC arrived17:50
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rejoncool17:51
rejonhow many?17:51
tannewtrejon, my guess is one17:59
bovinitylooks like one18:02
bovinityi can tear open the box and find out18:02
rejoncool18:07
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bovinitynew case18:12
bovinitykinda18:12
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tannewtjakin, mp3 didn't work for me18:18
paulproteusIt's heavier!18:18
jakintannewt, :-(18:19
tannewtjakin, there it worked18:19
jakintannewt, :-)18:19
tannewtjakin, it takes two goes to license an mp318:21
jakintannewt, does it take two to switch the license?18:22
tannewtjakin, let me try18:23
tannewtjakin, no18:23
jakintannewt, hmm, it must create the id3 frames the first go, and then fill it in the second.  i'll check it out18:24
tannewtjakin, I'll add the emblem stuff18:24
tannewtjakin, done, rev 636018:26
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jakintannewt, and rev 6362 should fix this problem18:31
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jakintannewt, i'm pretty close to having the kde stuff integrated in the build system18:35
cchelpbotNOTICE: SF.net SVN: cctools: [6363] ccoer/trunk/www: Revision: 6363 http://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/cctools/?rev=6363&view=rev Author: nkinkade Date: 2007-07-25 15:33:18 -0700 (Wed, 25 Jul 2007) Log Message: ----------- Fixed 2 more small bugs with registration/activation. Modified Paths: -------------- ccoer/trunk/www/activate.php18:35
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jakintannewt, i set it up as a subproject (i.e. with it's own configure)18:35
tannewtjakin, cool18:38
tannewthttp://cc-livecd.dreamhosters.com/ll_nautilus_emblem.png18:39
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tannewtnathany, http://cc-livecd.dreamhosters.com/ll_nautilus_emblem.png18:40
nathanycool18:40
tannewtI think we should start thinking about a release18:47
tvol_looks cool tannewt18:47
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gavinbakertannewt: i'm just a lurker, but that looks really neat.18:58
gavinbakerwould the package that does that be something i can just drop into ubuntu?18:58
tannewtgavinbaker, eventually yeah, we just need to package it up, it has its deps of course18:58
bovinityheh. emblem looks rad in action.18:59
gavinbakertannewt, sounds great.18:59
gavinbakerstill looking for integration with Amarok ;)18:59
tannewtbovinity, change it from a CC license to a non-cc license18:59
tannewtgavinbaker, yeah, I'd like that too, we'll look into it sometime19:00
tannewtgavinbaker, bovinity is running it from svn on ubuntu19:01
gavinbakerah cool19:02
gavinbakerbesides the emblems in nautilus, is there a place to check the license?19:02
gavinbaker(and is this for any filetype, or just jpg?)19:02
tannewtgavinbaker, http://cc-livecd.dreamhosters.com/ there are other screenshots19:03
bovinityirb(main):004:0> l = Liblicense.read("Alex Roberts.asc")19:03
bovinityFile mime-type: application/pgp-keys19:03
bovinityfails gracefully19:03
tannewtbovinity, you fixed it?19:03
bovinitynope19:03
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bovinitynautilus still hangs19:03
tannewtgavinbaker, with all modules we cover all file types because we have an external storage method (xmp sidecar files)19:04
tannewtgavinbaker, the ones starting with ll_ are the ones you want19:04
tannewtgavinbaker, the cclc_ stuff  is top secret ;-)19:05
gavinbakertannewt: so if there's OS-level integration, can i tell my computer to CC license everything i do?19:05
tannewtgavinbaker, well, we don't have a way to license every file but we do store a system default that programs can use19:06
gavinbakertannewt: that's really clever. are other programs using that API?19:07
tannewtgavinbaker, not yet, we've only done one small release19:07
paulproteus"one", sure.19:07
tannewthaha, two releases in one19:07
gavinbakertannewt: i'm confused about the "Allow Sharing" icon. don't all the licenses allow sharing?19:08
tannewtgavinbaker, yes all CC licenses do, but its somewhat license agnostic19:08
tannewtgavinbaker, even so, its nice to display that its part of the license19:09
gavinbakeroh, whoa... is this a GUI for the GPL, too?19:09
* gavinbaker head asplode19:09
bovinityin theory, any license19:09
gavinbakeroh man, software licenses with metadata. that's crazy19:11
tannewtbovinity, man, without exempi it supports a lot less19:11
gavinbakerwhat will they think of next... free content licenses? :D19:11
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cchelpbotNOTICE: SF.net SVN: cctools: [6365] jswidget/trunk/gen_template_js.py: Revision: 6365 http://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/cctools/?rev=6365&view=rev Author: paulproteus Date: 2007-07-25 16:12:34 -0700 (Wed, 25 Jul 2007) Log Message: ----------- add a trailing newline Modified Paths: -------------- jswidget/trunk/gen_template_js.py This was sent by the19:13
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tannewtargh, I want to ignore cchelpbot19:13
bovinityi think it would be neat if one could remove a license from a file.19:13
tannewtbovinity, uhhhh...19:14
* tannewt grins19:14
bovinityjust sayin...19:14
tannewtbovinity, yeah, it'd be good to support19:14
tannewtjakin, nautilus: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/liblicense/io/raptor.so: undefined symbol: ll_get_permits19:16
tannewthttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/Liblicense#Milestones19:17
tannewthow should we cache things?19:17
jakintannewt, works for me.  isn't that good enough?19:17
tannewtjakin, yes of course19:18
tannewtjakin, is raptor the only module with include liblicense.h?19:19
* tannewt adds an s19:19
jakinthey all use it for LL_MODULE_DEFINE, but only raptor needs to link against it (which is the problem)19:20
tannewtjakin, right19:20
tannewtjakin, shouldn't it fail on make though?19:21
jakintannewt, not for a dynamically loaded library.  it puts off the linking until it's loaded19:21
tannewtjakin, ah ok, so it was caused by me moving liblicense.h to liblicense/liblicense.h?19:22
jakintannewt, the raptor module needs $(top_builddir)/liblicense/liblicense.la19:24
tannewtjakin, you fixing it?19:24
* tannewt grins19:24
jakintannewt, yeah, i think i got it.  my third one-line fix today19:25
tannewtjakin, nice19:26
jakintannewt, i should send you a ll_dolphin.png ;-)19:26
tannewtgavinbaker, what would an amarok plugin do?19:26
tannewtjakin, do it!19:26
gavinbakertannewt: display licenses of CC-licensed MP3s19:26
gavinbakeror OGG or what have you19:26
tannewtgavinbaker, display it how?19:26
gavinbakertannewt: either in the context bar (on the left), or in a tab in track information (right-click on a song, bottom option)19:27
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gavinbakertannewt: i filed a bug in amarok about this, once upon a time, but they WONTFIXed it.19:28
gavinbakertannewt: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142238  http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Amarok19:28
tannewtgavinbaker, huh, it'd probably be pretty easy to do once the API is worked out19:28
gavinbakertannewt, apparently the context menu is just CSS19:29
gavinbakerharder to get a tab in track information, especially while they're moving everything to Qt419:29
tannewtgavinbaker, jakin already has stuff for KDE4 :-)19:29
jakintannewt, gotta run but I'll get some screenshots soon19:29
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cchelpbotNOTICE: SF.net SVN: cctools: [6367] jswidget/trunk/Makefile: Revision: 6367 http://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/cctools/?rev=6367&view=rev Author: paulproteus Date: 2007-07-25 16:24:57 -0700 (Wed, 25 Jul 2007) Log Message: ----------- updated make clean to match Modified Paths: -------------- jswidget/trunk/Makefile This was sent by the SourceForge.net19:29
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cchelpbotNOTICE: SF.net SVN: cctools: [6368] liblicense/trunk/modules/io/Makefile.am: Revision: 6368 http://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/cctools/?rev=6368&view=rev Author: jakin44 Date: 2007-07-25 16:29:23 -0700 (Wed, 25 Jul 2007) Log Message: ----------- Add the liblicense.la LIBADD to raptor so the module works outside of utils/license Modified Paths:19:29
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tannewtjakin, okay thanks19:30
jakintannewt, and you should keep liblicense from crashing when it gets a license that isn't a uri... the license emblem stuff keeps crashing nautilus when it hits one of these licenses.19:31
tannewtjakin, ah, alright, reading you mean?19:32
tannewtjakin, we need to optimize it tomorrow19:32
gavinbakertannewt: looking at that bug, i'm saddened by how much time i spent requesting it, only to see them WONTFIX it19:32
tannewtgavinbaker, the have a valid point not bothering to build support in19:33
tannewtgavinbaker, the only thing in the interface I can see is addLabel19:36
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gavinbakertannewt: it's true, but i just wish i hadn't bothered filing the bug, then -- or had filed a lazy one ;)19:37
tannewtgavinbaker, now if you could add a column19:37
tannewtbovinity, did that bug ever get fixed?19:49
bovinitywhich?19:49
tannewtbovinity, hanging nautilus19:49
bovinitynot for me19:49
tannewthmm19:49
bovinitywell, i'll check19:50
tannewthowd you generate that file? I'll make on for me19:50
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jakintannewt, 1) yup, and 2) sounds good, i'll be around20:41
tannewtjakin, I'm optimizing with sqlite for the functions which call get_all_licenses20:42
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jakintannewt, oooh20:43
tannewtjakin, it should help, but I've never done sqlite20:43
jakintannewt, krecipes used sqlite's c api :-)20:43
tannewtjakin, you wanna do it then :-P20:43
rejonyou guys are going to add sqlite optional dependency?20:44
jakintannewt, meh, we'll see20:44
tannewtrejon, yeah, if they dont have it they can wait20:44
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tannewtrejon, you see the emblem stuff?20:45
rejonyes, agree...optional dependency20:46
rejonnot yet20:46
rejonis there a screenshot?20:46
tannewtrejon, http://cc-livecd.dreamhosters.com/ll_nautilus_emblem.png20:47
rejonthat is super cool20:50
rejon!20:50
tannewtrejon, its loads better live20:50
rejonI think though we should use the legal icon20:50
rejonunfortunately20:50
jakintannewt, i need the icons where I can share them with my kde stuff20:50
rejonbse/bovinity: what do you think?20:51
tannewtrejon, already go it, if its not a cc license it uses the legal icon20:51
tannewtjakin, yeah, I realized that20:51
rejonyou rule!20:51
rejonbrilliant20:51
tannewtalright, I'm out, later guys20:51
jakintannewt, ttyl20:52
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bovinityrejon, yah, it's bloody rad20:53
rejonthat is the shit...totally puts it front and center20:56
rejonyah, the more visual this work becomes, the more real it is20:56
bovinityi'll tangoify a legal circle emblem for it20:56
rejonman, we gotta plan massive blog/pr push on this work20:56
rejoncool20:56
rejonYah, I wish we have a CC icon showing that there is some cc license20:56
rejonunless the little icons could fit on as emblems20:57
bovinitynope20:57
bovinitywill legal balk on using (cc) as an emblem you think?20:57
rejoni balk20:58
rejonas mike20:58
rejoncould put the legal icon and cc together to show that20:58
rejonthen, if not cc, then just the legal icon20:58
rejonI wonder if that would work20:58
bovinityeh, just use a legal icon for everything20:59
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