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| themayor | im here but going to sleep | 04:29 |
| themayor | this is jack btw | 04:29 |
| themayor | see you guys tomorrow | 04:29 |
| themayor | its 12:30am here | 04:29 |
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| rejon | themayor: cool! when you see tvol and tannewt online (timothy vollmer) intro yourself...cheers! | 04:45 |
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| Bovinity | neat, cyrille is working on xmp support in krita | 16:22 |
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| paulproteus | Whoa, a capital Bovinity. | 16:44 |
| rejon | tvol, themayor is jack from redhat | 16:45 |
| tvol | rejon thanks | 16:52 |
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| tvol | themayor: do you know what the minimum size is for the most basic fedora package--we've been playing around with keeping things very tight for the cclivecd | 17:00 |
| rejon | where's tannewt? | 17:01 |
| rejon | is he in office? | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | Psst, tvol, why not Ubuntu? (-; | 17:01 |
| luisv | because their equivalent tools for creating liveCDs are closed-source? | 17:02 |
| luisv | but hey, you can do it by (messy) hand | 17:02 |
| luisv | <- been there, done that | 17:02 |
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| rejon | paulproteus: redhat is helping with...plain and simple | 17:03 |
| rejon | they are being excellent friends of cc | 17:03 |
| rejon | tannewt: themayor is jack from redhat | 17:03 |
| rejon | fyi | 17:03 |
| tannewt | ooh, okay | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | luisv, Uh, at acm.jhu.edu, we customized the Ubuntu Live CD and I don't think we had to use any closed source junk. | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | Having said that, rejon, help is a great reason to pick one over the other. (-: | 17:03 |
| luisv | paulproteus: like I said, you can do it by hand with open tools | 17:04 |
| tannewt | themayor, we're having trouble with reducing the package payload size through revisor | 17:04 |
| luisv | given that most of the documentation on that process was written by yours truly, the documentation isn't very good ;) | 17:04 |
| paulproteus | Hah, duly noted luisv! | 17:04 |
| luisv | tannewt: when you say package size, you mean the core iso? or individual rpms? | 17:05 |
| rejon | luisv: the redhat wiki and path to gain access to the system is weak | 17:05 |
| rejon | not the whole wiki | 17:05 |
| luisv | rejon: you mean signing the CLA and such? | 17:05 |
| rejon | yah | 17:05 |
| luisv | (SCA? whatever) | 17:05 |
| tannewt | luisv, its the number in megabytes given before building the iso | 17:05 |
| rejon | trying to get access, etc | 17:05 |
| luisv | rejon: yeah, simplifying that is one of my pet projects for the summer | 17:05 |
| luisv | rejon: I just have to talk my boss into actually assigning that to me ;) | 17:06 |
| rejon | or, just do it ;) | 17:07 |
| rejon | twis a wiki | 17:07 |
| luisv | oh, I mean the legal-procedural bits | 17:09 |
| luisv | I mean, I *could* just rewrite them | 17:09 |
| luisv | but I'm guessing they'd get reverted ;) | 17:09 |
| rejon | themayor: you alive? ;) | 17:10 |
| luisv | he is in NYC | 17:13 |
| luisv | on a friday | 17:13 |
| luisv | he's probably already drunk by now ;) | 17:13 |
| rejon | what? | 17:14 |
| rejon | he is an open source gangsta | 17:14 |
| luisv | exactly | 17:24 |
| luisv | his open source honeys are probably there at the office | 17:24 |
| luisv | and he's sipping from the open source gin and juice | 17:24 |
| luisv | none of this IRC stuff for our boy jack | 17:24 |
| luisv | he has People for that | 17:24 |
| rejon | tvol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 17:37 |
| rejon | what ubuntu are you running? | 17:37 |
| tvol | 7.04 | 17:40 |
| rejon | click through to that link | 17:40 |
| rejon | and follow the steps | 17:40 |
| tvol | k | 17:40 |
| rejon | I think is the defacto steps | 17:41 |
| rejon | tvol: can you finish filling out the roadmap on http://wiki.creativecommons.org/LiveContent | 17:42 |
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| rejon | where's rrr | 18:09 |
| tvol | we need an intercom....or some passenger pigeons | 18:14 |
| rejon | yah, or memory | 18:15 |
| rejon | snap | 18:15 |
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| tvol | zing | 18:16 |
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| rejon | jakin: what is your phone number | 18:19 |
| rejon | I want to schedule a weekly call with you and scott | 18:19 |
| rejon | tannewt I mean | 18:19 |
| rejon | post todays meeting | 18:20 |
| tannewt | rejon, I'm working on a timeline | 18:20 |
| tannewt | for myself | 18:20 |
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| jakin | rejon, 360-354-0770. it's my parent's landline (where I'll be all summer) | 18:20 |
| rejon | cool | 18:22 |
| rejon | jakin: I think if you get done with tracker stuff, then should aim canons at beagle + cc integration and then spotlight + cc integration and then microsoft search + cc integration | 18:24 |
| tannewt | haha | 18:24 |
| tannewt | lots to do | 18:24 |
| jakin | eek | 18:25 |
| rejon | jakin: when is gsoc over? | 18:25 |
| jakin | some time middle of august | 18:25 |
| jakin | lots of time | 18:25 |
| rejon | yes, need to get more out of your brain :) | 18:25 |
| rejon | plus, you will be a saint in open source | 18:26 |
| rejon | I love that your code is requiring patches all over the place | 18:26 |
| rejon | make sure to add Creative Commons and Google copyright to your patches\ | 18:26 |
| tannewt | rejon, he already is a saint thanks to krecipes | 18:26 |
| jakin | tannewt, oh yeah, definitely | 18:26 |
| rejon | yah, forgot about that | 18:26 |
| rejon | tannewt: you should be adding yours and creative commons to your code | 18:26 |
| rejon | jakin: i think add your copyright too | 18:27 |
| tannewt | jakin, hey, you keep open sources developers from starving | 18:27 |
| tannewt | rejon, okay | 18:27 |
| rejon | jakin: can you look up the definite gsoc enddate please | 18:27 |
| jakin | tannewt, hehe. there's always the microwave as a backup | 18:27 |
| jakin | rejon, august 20 | 18:28 |
| tannewt | jakin, I know, I've been experiencing that phenomena | 18:28 |
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| rejon | yah, the apple and microsoft search is ugly | 18:31 |
| rejon | problematic, so, need to work on the open source majors first | 18:31 |
| tannewt | rejon, I was hoping jakin could help write file license embedders | 18:32 |
| * jakin realizes he should stop hacking and eat breakfast | 18:32 | |
| tannewt | rejon, I updated the liblicense wiki page | 18:32 |
| rejon | yes, that is the next best priority | 18:32 |
| rejon | jakin: finish SoC task, write file license embedders, then focus on reusing this code for beagle and xesam on fd.o, then if time, focus on spotlight and microsoft and google search | 18:33 |
| rejon | jakin: what is your usernmae on http://wiki.creativecommons.org ? | 18:34 |
| rejon | nm. found | 18:35 |
| jakin | rejon, alright will do. atm, it's hard to guage my process in tracker until i talk with jamie | 18:38 |
| rejon | yes | 18:39 |
| rejon | he didn't respond to call info, soooooo.... | 18:39 |
| rejon | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:Jason_Kivlighn | 18:39 |
| tannewt | rejon, what about not responding? | 18:39 |
| rejon | ok, need to break down tasks for rest of summer...I put this up, similar to what have for interns in the office | 18:39 |
| rejon | tannewt: to the call in info for our afternoon meeting | 18:40 |
| tannewt | rejon, ah | 18:41 |
| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: User:Jason Kivlighn <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:Jason_Kivlighn> | 18:44 |
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| rejon | rrr | 19:49 |
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| rejon | rrrrrrrrrr | 19:49 |
| luisv | ttttt. | 19:50 |
| rejon | rrr: that is the best irc name of all time | 19:51 |
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| paulproteus | arrr | 19:51 |
| rejon | pirate party | 19:54 |
| rejon | fyi my event for any in SF: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/185158/ | 19:57 |
| rejon | $5! films plus blevin blectum and more talking! | 19:57 |
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| tannewt | rejon, is there a google calendar for overlap? | 20:05 |
| rrr | rrrr | 20:08 |
| Bovinity | arr, it be interns. | 20:08 |
| tannewt | :-P | 20:08 |
| rrr | rejon: do you need an id? | 20:10 |
| rejon | tannewt: only upcoming.org | 20:11 |
| tannewt | bah | 20:11 |
| rejon | rrr: come early | 20:11 |
| rrr | ok | 20:13 |
| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: Main Page <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Main_Page> | 20:34 |
| rejon | tvol: maybe best to copy the main page to another page for forming it | 20:35 |
| rejon | then copy and paste when done | 20:35 |
| rejon | fyi | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | rrr, Do you mean id like web login or id like drivers license? | 20:36 |
| rejon | y | 20:36 |
| rrr | paulproteu: id like drivers license | 20:48 |
| Bovinity | you also need a handle to get in | 20:48 |
| Bovinity | irc, or door. whichever takes your fancy. | 20:48 |
| rrr | rejon: did we ever figure out the icon thing for the mockups? | 20:49 |
| rejon | ask bovinity: | 20:50 |
| rrr | is bovinity alex? | 20:50 |
| * paulproteus nods | 20:50 | |
| Bovinity | yes | 20:50 |
| rrr | ooh hey! | 20:50 |
| Bovinity | i'll send you the svg i came up with | 20:50 |
| rrr | awesome | 20:50 |
| paulproteus | Though right he's bovine spongiform encephalopathy (i.e., mad cow disease). | 20:51 |
| Bovinity | quite mad. | 20:51 |
| rejon | paulproteus? | 20:53 |
| rejon | hahah | 20:53 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Hmm? | 20:53 |
| rejon | you are quite mad, nm, bad joke | 20:53 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 20:54 |
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| jakin | rejon, should I be calling in? | 21:01 |
| rejon | i'm calling you | 21:02 |
| jakin | ah | 21:02 |
| rejon | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Liblicense | 21:06 |
| rejon | jakin: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Liblicense | 21:07 |
| rejon | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Tracker_CC_Indexing | 21:15 |
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| paulproteus | Afternoon nathany. | 21:19 |
| nathany | hey paulproteus | 21:20 |
| nathany | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Ogg | 21:23 |
| * poningru steals the olpc and openmoko from cc | 21:25 | |
| paulproteus | Sshhh... | 21:25 |
| jakin | http://wiki.xiph.org/Metadata | 21:26 |
| paulproteus | Whoa, I'm being surrounded. | 21:26 |
| tannewt | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Liblicense#Attributes | 21:27 |
| paulproteus | lol, RDF + Dublin Core in Vorbis Comments! | 21:27 |
| paulproteus | That'd be SOLID. | 21:27 |
| tvol | hey does anyone know how many high-level domains cc has....like media.creativecommons....... | 21:38 |
| nathany | tvol: i don't know, but i can look it up later | 21:42 |
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| tannewt | nathany, what is the CCPL? | 21:55 |
| nathany | just a blanket name for all of our licensees | 21:56 |
| nathany | licenses, that is | 21:56 |
| tannewt | oh ok, are the licenses(CCPL) licensed under any defined license? | 21:58 |
| * paulproteus drowns in a sea of meta | 21:58 | |
| tannewt | haha | 21:59 |
| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: Film <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Film> | 21:59 |
| poningru | rofl | 21:59 |
| poningru | I always wondered that | 21:59 |
| poningru | and have been too afaid to ask | 21:59 |
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| nathany | tannewt: wtf? | 21:59 |
| tannewt | nathany, lol | 21:59 |
| paulproteus | lol, poningru! | 22:00 |
| tannewt | nathany, you should know everything upon fixation is copyright | 22:00 |
| tannewt | nathany, they should be recursively licensed | 22:00 |
| poningru | paulproteus: seriously though what license is the license gpl released under? | 22:00 |
| tannewt | poningru, I'd hate to get sued for modifying it and giving it away | 22:02 |
| poningru | :p | 22:04 |
| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: Desktop Integration <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Desktop_Integration> | 22:09 |
| paulproteus | poningru, iirc GPL says what license it's under: verbatim distribution only is allowed. | 22:09 |
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| tannewt | paulproteus, huh | 22:10 |
| poningru | huh did not know that | 22:10 |
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| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: Film <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Film> | 22:21 |
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| paulproteus | tannewt, poningru: from http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html: "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed." | 22:26 |
| tannewt | :-) | 22:26 |
| poningru | so full copyright | 22:27 |
| paulproteus | No! | 22:27 |
| poningru | 0.0 | 22:27 |
| poningru | how isnt it? | 22:27 |
| paulproteus | (C) disallows distribution of verbatim copies. | 22:27 |
| paulproteus | It approximates CC by-nd. (-: | 22:27 |
| poningru | oh true | 22:28 |
| poningru | :p | 22:28 |
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| rejon | nerds | 22:31 |
| tannewt | rejon, jakin, http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Liblicense#Example | 22:31 |
| tannewt | rejon, its a valid question | 22:31 |
| tannewt | although ridiculous | 22:32 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, Well, go read the licenses. | 22:36 |
| poningru | rejon: are you trying to imply you are not a nerd? | 22:36 |
| paulproteus | I did that for GPL; what do the CCPLs (as nathany put it) say? | 22:36 |
| paulproteus | poningru++ | 22:36 |
| poningru | ;) | 22:37 |
| rejon | poningru and paulproteus: how can I give you guys some tasks to work on | 22:37 |
| rejon | ? | 22:37 |
| rejon | openmoko? | 22:37 |
| rejon | olpc? | 22:37 |
| poningru | OOH | 22:37 |
| poningru | yes yes | 22:37 |
| rejon | fixing freeculture.org? | 22:38 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Hey, I'm still on pre-vacation or something. | 22:38 |
| rejon | yah, right | 22:38 |
| poningru | send one to: 2841 SW 13th st Gainesville FL | 22:38 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Oh, we have beta.freeculture.org. | 22:38 |
| paulproteus | It's just we think it doesn't work in IE and none of us are really capable of fixing this. | 22:38 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, If you feel like looking at beta.fc.o, let me know what you think.... | 22:38 |
| Bovinity | one of your peopel asked me to look, but didn't get back to me regarding accounts to WP or server | 22:38 |
| Bovinity | if you wanna give me a WP account, i'll tweak it as far as i can | 22:39 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Sounds good to me! | 22:39 |
| rejon | jakin: are you in the #tracker channel | 22:39 |
| Bovinity | or tar up the theme adn email it over | 22:39 |
| jakin | rejon, yeah | 22:39 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Oh, it's actually in svn. | 22:39 |
| Bovinity | oh super, send me the svn server url | 22:40 |
| paulproteus | http://freeculture.org:8080/svn/wordpress-theme/trunk/ | 22:41 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, BTW there are no tags or branches really, and there are stale images in there but that shouldn't be a problem. | 22:42 |
| Bovinity | shouldn't be an issue | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | One thing you should be aware of is that there is PHP that refers to our MySQL server. | 22:43 |
| paulproteus | grep for rose.makesad.us and comment out the code that does the call; otherwise it'll hang for 30s before timing out I think. | 22:43 |
| paulproteus | Sorry we're so lame. (-; | 22:43 |
| paulproteus | But after that it should Just Work. | 22:44 |
| paulproteus | I think. | 22:44 |
| Bovinity | neat. | 22:45 |
| paulproteus | Let me know if you get it going or it explodes or something. | 22:45 |
| paulproteus | Or if you abandon the idea of trying it. (-: | 22:45 |
| Bovinity | i'll get back to you on that. | 22:45 |
| paulproteus | Sounds good; as always, feel free to flame me as appropriate. | 22:46 |
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| tannewt | rejon, I think one think liblicense will be missing are license icons | 22:59 |
| tannewt | s/think/thing | 23:04 |
| tannewt | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Liblicense#Example_.28i18n.29 | 23:04 |
| rejon | you mean from the rdf license files, or a way to associate license with icons? | 23:10 |
| tannewt | rejon, just an association, so apps have something non-text to display | 23:11 |
| rejon | hmmm...yah, not sure about that one | 23:11 |
| rejon | get creative :) | 23:11 |
| * tannewt digs up ancient wiki article | 23:11 | |
| * tannewt points rejon to http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Libcclicense | 23:12 | |
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| rejon | tannewt: can you pull relevant info from that and then redirect that entire page to liblicense | 23:18 |
| rejon | please move any content on our wiki that refers to libcclicense to liblicense | 23:19 |
| rejon | good so we don't bring confusion upon the world | 23:19 |
| rejon | :) | 23:19 |
| tannewt | sure | 23:19 |
| rejon | jakin and tannewt: good work by the way! | 23:19 |
| rejon | massive high fives | 23:19 |
| tannewt | I just stumbled upon it earlier today | 23:19 |
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| rejon | yah, mad wikifarming needed | 23:21 |
| rejon | tvol: hows the front page of the wiki coming? | 23:22 |
| tvol | rejon: on hold momentarily | 23:23 |
| tvol | writing up something for carrie from ala | 23:23 |
| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: Libcclicense <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Libcclicense> | 23:23 |
| rejon | tvol: yah, she seems willing to do work on livecontent if given specific parameters | 23:24 |
| tvol | true | 23:24 |
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| paulproteus | Mmm, wikifarming. | 23:43 |
| rejon | ok, pce friends...movie time!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 23:44 |
| tannewt | rejon, enjoy | 23:44 |
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