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| tannewt | mlinksva, no more news from the third possible intern? | 17:06 |
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| mlinksva | tannewt, you left... ping me next time :) | 17:15 |
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| tekonivel | hello all | 17:27 |
| tekonivel | i would like to ask about the CC-licenses and libraries | 17:27 |
| tekonivel | i wonder if you lot are around | 17:27 |
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| tekonivel | to me it seems the CC licenses allow use in a library | 17:29 |
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| tekonivel | however, some sites (f.ex. thinner.cc) say that the material is free for private, but not for commercial use. libraries are naturally /not/ commerial, but they're not private either | 17:30 |
| tekonivel | theoretically a library could print a CC book, catalog it and add it to the collection and borrow it to patrons just like any book, right? | 17:31 |
| tekonivel | anybody? | 17:39 |
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| rejon | http://www.videoadfactory.com/ | 18:07 |
| rejon | check that out | 18:08 |
| rejon | ugc commercials | 18:08 |
| mlinksva | tekonivel, it seems that a non-profit library would be ok even if the CC license says noncommercial, but i am not a lawyer | 18:11 |
| tekonivel | yeah, i agree | 18:12 |
| tekonivel | mlinksva: a lot of sites only mention a) private use and b) commercial use. libraries, archives etc. are often not mentioned at all | 18:13 |
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| tekonivel | mlinksva: but i shouldn't mind the texts on the sites, only the license | 18:14 |
| mlinksva | tekonivel, well, if they're using a CC license, that is about public use | 18:14 |
| tekonivel | mlinksva: exactly | 18:14 |
| mlinksva | private use is fair use anyhow, so if they say they are allowing private use, they aren't telling you anything :) | 18:14 |
| tekonivel | mlinksva: some site (i don't rememer which) has material, but seems to claim i'm allowed to redistribute only in electronic form... i've sent them email, asking for clarification | 18:15 |
| tekonivel | mlinksva: :) | 18:15 |
| tekonivel | mlinksva: of course the local law has an impact, but the finnish librarylaw excludes all sorts of e-material | 18:16 |
| tekonivel | mlinksva: well, it doesn't exactly exclude them, it just doesn't mention them at all | 18:16 |
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| rejon | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Media_Hosting_Wishlist | 19:04 |
| rejon | anyone want to review my handiwork? | 19:04 |
| rejon | mlinksva: could you add content for the 3 incomplete sections plz | 19:04 |
| rejon | I just hashed out the documen | 19:04 |
| rejon | ok, emailed the list about it | 19:10 |
| rejon | at the salon on wed: http://www.archive.org/download/doublefishandiloopliveinbj/format=flash+video | 19:13 |
| rejon | http://www.archive.org/details/doublefishdoublefishxx | 19:16 |
| rejon | also | 19:16 |
| rejon | bovinity: http://www.archive.org/details/doublefishdoublefishxx | 19:17 |
| bovinity | hmm | 19:23 |
| bovinity | ha, rad | 19:24 |
| bovinity | i'm sure alec empire would be proud of this. | 19:25 |
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| bovinity | did they CC license that rammstein sample? | 19:26 |
| bovinity | :P | 19:27 |
| rejon | fair use | 19:27 |
| bovinity | i suppose it should be. | 19:28 |
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| mlinksva | rejon, what you think of http://apcmag.com/5876/intel_gives_red_flag_the_green_light | 20:56 |
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| rejon | mlinksva: I think it will sell well | 21:37 |
| rejon | chinese folks are way into tiny computers | 21:38 |
| rejon | last time I was there, many ppl. wanted umpcs | 21:38 |
| rejon | so, I think that means many ppl. will get them and the cheapest clones possible | 21:38 |
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| bryce | rejon, abouts? | 21:41 |
| rejon | heya | 21:43 |
| rejon | whats up | 21:43 |
| bryce | heya, I have new blog software and want to update planet.inkscape.org | 21:43 |
| rejon | ok...do I own that? | 21:44 |
| rejon | brb...1 sec door | 21:44 |
| bryce | can you point me at where the file is? | 21:44 |
| bryce | ah found it: freedesktop.org: /srv/create.freedesktop.org/www_rejon/planet_inkscape | 21:44 |
| bryce | can you please change http://wwww.bryceharrington.org/blosxom.cgi to http://www.bryceharrington.org/drupal/ | 21:45 |
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| rejon | convert | 21:52 |
| rejon | bryce: you should move your whole site to it | 21:52 |
| bryce | the feed is here: http://bryceharrington.org/drupal/blog/1/feed | 21:53 |
| rejon | ok | 21:53 |
| rejon | oh yeah, its on fd.o | 21:53 |
| bryce | yeah I plan to if I have time | 21:53 |
| bryce | most of my site currently is photos, and while I really like drupal, I kind of prefer what I put together over what drupal can do | 21:54 |
| rejon | yah | 21:54 |
| bryce | (as far as photo albums go) | 21:55 |
| rejon | man, I have to say, it so much easier to manage my site now that I converted it to wordpress | 21:55 |
| rejon | http://bryceharrington.org/drupal/blog/1/feed | 21:55 |
| bryce | realistically, a lot of the stuff I put on my site is random once-off things like screenshots, patches, php experiments, etc | 21:55 |
| rejon | Yah, I thought of that too...just decided better to make all those posts with tags | 21:56 |
| rejon | takes care of making it searchable, etc | 21:56 |
| rejon | bryce: your feed is giving error | 21:56 |
| bryce | oh? | 21:56 |
| rejon | wait | 21:56 |
| rejon | I mean, I loaded int FF and it says the feed is not validating | 21:56 |
| bryce | ?? | 21:58 |
| rejon | bryce: i'm running the cron to see if it chokes on it | 21:58 |
| rejon | ok, lets see | 21:58 |
| rejon | ok, it worked | 21:58 |
| rejon | cool! | 21:58 |
| bryce | excellent, thanks! | 22:00 |
| rejon | yep | 22:00 |
| rejon | mlinksva: are you going to go to the swivel drinkx at 5 | 22:01 |
| rejon | I dunno...think I might just head to the dinner...they will be at the salon, right | 22:01 |
| mlinksva | rejon, i think i will just head to dinner | 22:02 |
| rejon | yah, can't get burnt out too early | 22:03 |
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| rejon | mlinksva: I'm about to send a massive brain dump from meeting with redhat...fyi...not all parseable, but FYI | 22:09 |
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| aphid | rejon: ping | 22:24 |
| rejon | aphid: pong | 22:24 |
| aphid | mm.. pong | 22:25 |
| rejon | bovinity: does CC have Adobe CS3 | 22:25 |
| aphid | looks like mike and i will be doing metavid full time for a year | 22:25 |
| rejon | aphid: excellent!!!! | 22:25 |
| rejon | I heard some rumblings about this last week in DC | 22:25 |
| rejon | aphid: who is funding you guys? | 22:25 |
| aphid | O.o | 22:25 |
| aphid | sunlight foundation | 22:25 |
| rejon | excellent! | 22:25 |
| aphid | via UCSC.. (eg, university salaries, etc) | 22:25 |
| aphid | why, what did you hear? hehe | 22:26 |
| rejon | I can't remember...someone mentioned to me at this conf on UGC | 22:26 |
| aphid | cool | 22:26 |
| rejon | This is great for you guys! Perfect! | 22:26 |
| rejon | a great place for you guys to dock and connect up action... | 22:27 |
| aphid | yeh, their otherprojects will be a good fit | 22:27 |
| rejon | agree | 22:29 |
| rejon | I think will be key to get your guys' footage and content embedded in their projects and around the web | 22:29 |
| bovinity | rejon: no, we don't | 22:29 |
| rejon | (esp. for longevity) | 22:29 |
| rejon | bovinity: what version? | 22:29 |
| bovinity | rejon: yet? | 22:29 |
| bovinity | we have CS2 | 22:29 |
| rejon | right | 22:31 |
| rejon | ok, just seeing...does it come with adobe bridge? | 22:31 |
| bovinity | yes | 22:31 |
| aphid | rejon: yeah, theora's funkiness has been kind of an obstacle to that. the coming integration in firefox and opera will help a lot | 22:32 |
| aphid | (funkiness in-browser) | 22:32 |
| rejon | aphid: would it be evil to encode to flash and/or work with a site like blip.tv to convert to FLV and link to the original content? | 22:35 |
| aphid | click.tv has been doing that w/our content.. or trying to | 22:35 |
| aphid | we're hoping to stay patent-free/nonproprietary but it could happen :D | 22:36 |
| rejon | agree | 22:36 |
| rejon | aphid: that is true, but at the end of the day, what will help mass proliferation of the content IMO...and provide both | 22:36 |
| rejon | whoa, this is cool! http://click.tv/ | 22:38 |
| aphid | http://click.tv/metavid/ | 22:38 |
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| rejon | cool | 22:41 |
| rejon | aphid: is there a format as compressed and as easy to use as FLV? | 22:42 |
| rejon | and/or what would you recommend? | 22:42 |
| aphid | we've been pretty happy with theora, at least when we don't have to use java to play it :D | 22:43 |
| aphid | and we're able to serve portions of much longer files (like 35 seconds out of a 7 hour proceeding) as distinct saveable streams | 22:43 |
| aphid | which makes creative re(/mis)use much easier | 22:44 |
| rejon | true... | 22:45 |
| rejon | ok, keep me posted...I have to step out for a sec | 22:46 |
| aphid | sure thing.. was hoping to get up to the salon tomorrow but something came up. hopefully next month | 22:46 |
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