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| akozak | JED3, out of curiosity, how does the scraper parse whitespace in literals? | 18:54 |
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| JED3 | akozak: it ignores leading and trailing whitespace | 18:55 |
| akozak | is that to spec? | 18:55 |
| JED3 | idk, i imagine it would be | 18:55 |
| akozak | maybe a better way to put it is, that makes sense to me and im hoping its in the spec :P | 18:56 |
| akozak | "A conforming RDFa Processor must preserve white space in both plain literals and XML literals. However, it may be the case that the architecture in which a processor operates does not make all white space available. It is therefore advisable for authors who would like to make their documents consumable across different processors, to remove any unnecessary white space in their markup." | 18:57 |
| akozak | lame | 18:57 |
| akozak | this is from a draft though | 18:57 |
| JED3 | wow, interesting | 18:57 |
| JED3 | oh | 18:57 |
| JED3 | link? | 18:57 |
| akozak | http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/drafts/2010/WD-rdfa-core-20100803/ | 18:57 |
| akozak | ah | 18:58 |
| akozak | http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-core/ | 18:58 |
| akozak | is the most recent | 18:58 |
| akozak | still there it seems | 18:58 |
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| JED3 | akozak: an example of whitespace sneaking past our parsers: http://illegal-art.net/allday/ click the by-nc badge | 19:13 |
| akozak | ha! | 19:14 |
| akozak | JED3, so it *doesnt* strip it? | 19:14 |
| JED3 | guess not... the parsing is handled in rdfadict which i think uses rdflib's parser, | 19:16 |
| JED3 | the deedscraper should be stripping it though before the deed renders the string, i might need to open an issue for this | 19:16 |
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| JED3 | mralex: http://benthebodyguard.com/ <- whoa | 19:23 |
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| mralex | JED3: yeah, saw that earlier. super cool | 19:34 |
| akozak | so simple but so awesome | 19:35 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: ping | 19:48 |
| paroneayea | JED3: pong | 19:48 |
| JED3 | re: cc-india.org, want me to take care of that? | 19:49 |
| paroneayea | JED3: sure, thx | 19:49 |
| JED3 | np | 19:50 |
| JED3 | get your free music downloads and royalty free photos http://creativecommmons.org/ | 19:52 |
| paroneayea | f r e e p h o t o s http://creativecommmons.org/ | 19:55 |
| paroneayea | spammer style | 19:55 |
| akozak | nkinkade, I tried to upload these webm files to mirrors but I don't have permissions | 20:09 |
| akozak | is it worth giving me sudo or should you just create the dir for me? | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | akozak: You should already have sudo privs. | 20:10 |
| akozak | oh dang, maybe i shouldve tried sudo first | 20:10 |
| akozak | thanks nkinkade | 20:10 |
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| akozak | i guess it doesn't make sense to disrupt internet for the entire office to upload these videos :P | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | akozak: true true. Go disrupt the internet for an entire coffee shop instead ;) | 20:20 |
| akozak | I don't think they sell coffees large enough to last the time itd take to upload 1gb | 20:20 |
| paroneayea | 1) buy http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3029/2809230657_7e7e1bb47f.jpg | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | 2) find a pour-your-own-coffee-shop | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | (like Panera) | 20:21 |
| paroneayea | (??? profit!!!) | 20:22 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: you wanted to put testing and etc on a monitor or something; hackable, rebranded chumby ones, $50 http://dealnews.com/Insignia-Infocast-3.5-Chumby-Internet-Device-for-50-free-shipping/410893.html | 20:25 |
| * paroneayea marks this as critical in roundup! | 20:25 | |
| akozak | JED3, the deed whitespace thing seems like a bug to me, even though the spec says to preserve whitespace | 20:35 |
| akozak | it at least aknowledges that the environment around the processor could strip it | 20:35 |
| akozak | so strictly speaking, i don't think there's a violation of the spec for the scraper to strip it after it's been parsed | 20:36 |
| akozak | and its obviously suboptimal for it not to | 20:36 |
| nyergler | paroneayea: interesting | 20:37 |
| nyergler | i have a chumby at home, but never hack on it due to it's inherent flash-based-ness | 20:37 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 20:37 |
| nyergler | also, i want like a 40" monitor on the wall showing the test status | 20:37 |
| paroneayea | though, I thought you could reconfigure it | 20:37 |
| paroneayea | to use x11 and more generic things | 20:37 |
| paroneayea | http://www.openminddev.net/projects/wiki/4/Debian_on_a_Chumby | 20:38 |
| paroneayea | but yes, not quite 40" :) | 20:39 |
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| nyergler | grumble, grumble, transifex 1.0, grumble | 20:46 |
| paroneayea | ;x | 20:47 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: So what would be the most convenient way for Tx to interact with the build process for the i18n package? | 20:48 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: I don't know, I haven't looked at the scripts yet | 20:48 |
| nkinkade | That is, I imagine that we'll want the build process to do a fetch from Tx prior to each build. | 20:48 |
| paroneayea | yeah probably | 20:48 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: It should be trivial. | 20:48 |
| paroneayea | I'm thinking that | 20:48 |
| paroneayea | ok | 20:48 |
| paroneayea | I just need to look at those scripts | 20:49 |
| paroneayea | if you say it is trivial I will believe you ;) | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | It should just a matter of installing the tx tool with easy_install, and then configuring it. | 20:49 |
| paroneayea | hrm | 20:49 |
| paroneayea | we're still stuck with the possible merge conflicts proble | 20:49 |
| paroneayea | m though | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | Then telling your build script to call tx to pull down data. | 20:49 |
| paroneayea | there's no way to avoid that I guess | 20:49 |
| paroneayea | possible race condition is inevitable? | 20:50 |
| nkinkade | Well, at least it isn't a new problem. | 20:50 |
| paroneayea | yeah. | 20:50 |
| nkinkade | It's just an old problem that is carrying over. | 20:50 |
| paroneayea | at least this time the race condition problem is on our turf ;) | 20:50 |
| nkinkade | In fact, this used to be a problem with Pootle as well. | 20:50 |
| paroneayea | right | 20:50 |
| nkinkade | I can remember going through conflict hell with Pootle when adding new strings. | 20:50 |
| nkinkade | It seems to be characteristic of this version control method of doing things. | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | Well, at least characteristic of our way of adding strings. | 20:51 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Where does your build script live? | 20:52 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: 1sec, pulling it up | 20:54 |
| paroneayea | a7:/var/www/staging.creativecommons.org/make_i18n_sdist.sh | 20:55 |
| paroneayea | and updates | 20:55 |
| paroneayea | a7:/var/www/staging.creativecommons.org/i18n_hook_checkout/ | 20:55 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Does it really matter where it's located, as long as it's on a7? | 20:57 |
| nkinkade | The tx stuff, I mean. | 20:58 |
| paroneayea | no, it doesn't | 20:58 |
| paroneayea | I mean, the scripts have to be changed | 20:58 |
| paroneayea | but the location doesn't matter | 20:58 |
| paroneayea | that location was chosen because discussion on irc at the time seemed to indicate it was the smartest place :) | 20:58 |
| nkinkade | Actually, as I think about it, this tx stuff can be anywhere. It just needs to pull down changes from Tx.net and push them to our repo, and your scripts keep working without change. | 20:59 |
| paroneayea | the reason it needs to be a7 | 20:59 |
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| paroneayea | is because it copies files into code.cc.org/basket | 20:59 |
| paroneayea | new packages, that is | 21:00 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Cool. But I think this tx stuff can be anywhere, right? | 21:00 |
| nkinkade | Your code works from the git repo, and that won't change. | 21:00 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 21:00 |
| nkinkade | We just need this shim somewhere. | 21:00 |
| paroneayea | that's true | 21:00 |
| paroneayea | we also presumably need to trigger *pushing* changes to transifex | 21:00 |
| paroneayea | I'm guessing they've got that figured out though | 21:00 |
| paroneayea | probably the same script even? | 21:01 |
| paroneayea | brb, tea | 21:03 |
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| Papyros | can anyone help me with a small problem ? | 21:31 |
| akozak | Papyros, go ahead and ask, someone might be able to answer. | 21:33 |
| Papyros | a min , and max problem http://pastebin.com/9xSesjBm | 21:34 |
| Papyros | why can't i find the max ? | 21:34 |
| akozak | Papyros, this isn't a channel for the c or c++ programming language | 21:34 |
| Papyros | what is the wrong ? | 21:34 |
| Papyros | what is it ? | 21:35 |
| Papyros | sorry | 21:35 |
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| paroneayea | aw | 21:36 |
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| mralex | paroneayea: did you already add the missing border radii that i forgot to add in? | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | oh uhhh | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | I don't think so? | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | maybe | 22:34 |
| * paroneayea not sure what you mean | 22:34 | |
| mralex | deed3.css on staging and production are both correct | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | oh | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | gnomes | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | gnomes did it | 22:34 |
| mralex | maybe an old bug submission? | 22:35 |
| paroneayea | it's a few months old | 22:35 |
| paroneayea | I'm basically clearing out my orgmode file of non-roundupified things | 22:35 |
| paroneayea | sorry! | 22:35 |
| mralex | ah | 22:35 |
| paroneayea | feel free to close it | 22:35 |
| mralex | done :) | 22:36 |
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| akozak | hrm, why does the w3c have their own document license | 22:44 |
| akozak | http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2002/copyright-documents-20021231 | 22:45 |
| paroneayea | should be cc0! | 22:45 |
| paroneayea | no-derivatives? :( | 22:46 |
| paroneayea | see, that's silly paranoia | 22:46 |
| paroneayea | why use copyright as a tool for that | 22:46 |
| paroneayea | the canonical version will be the version your org puts out | 22:46 |
| paroneayea | if you really want to make your version super-surely-canonical, do openpgp sigs | 22:46 |
| akozak | This document answers several Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about W3C intellectual rights policies. The primary goals of these policies are: | 22:48 |
| akozak | To encourage the widespread dissemination of W3C work. | 22:48 |
| akozak | To preserve the integrity of W3C work by eliminating confusion about its source and status. | 22:48 |
| akozak | CC is in their faw though | 22:48 |
| akozak | maybe they allow CC? | 22:48 |
| akozak | faq* | 22:49 |
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| paroneayea | EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE | 22:58 |
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