Monday, 2010-11-22

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paroneayeahrmmm16:38
paroneayeaI'm gonna remove all those license.fsf_* messages from the cc_org master .po16:38
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nyerglerparoneayea: any idea why cc.license installs zope.tal and zope.app.applicationcontrol as part of the i18n part?20:48
paroneayeaas part of the i18n part?  not sure20:49
* paroneayea looks20:49
paroneayeanyergler: "it shouldn't"20:49
paroneayeanyergler: oh20:50
paroneayeaI think I know why.20:50
paroneayea        'zope.i18n',20:50
paroneayea        'zope.interface',20:50
nyergler?20:51
nyerglerdon't understand what that means20:51
paroneayeahold on, looking, but20:51
paroneayeaI think maybe zope.i18n would require zope.tal?20:51
paroneayeamaybe for the sake of extracting translations20:52
paroneayeathat's my guess20:52
nyerglerparoneayea: see http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/cc.license.git/tree/buildout.cfg20:52
nyerglerok20:52
paroneayeaoh :)20:52
paroneayeaI thought you meant you saw it installing, while buildi8ng out20:52
paroneayeanyergler: I think this actually is an artifact.20:53
paroneayeaI think I put that in there when I was trying to figure out how to extract things, and copied it from something else20:53
paroneayeabut it doesn't need to be there20:53
paroneayeabut let me confirm my suspicion20:54
paroneayeaI did it in August 2009, I definitely didn't know how this shit worked20:55
* paroneayea totally cargo cultin'20:56
paroneayeaI'll remove it20:56
nyerglerthanks20:56
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akozakJED3, dumb question, but do rdfa parsers know when a triple in rdfa is e.g. within a <textarea> or is being quoted rather than rendered?21:41
JED3akozak: i would expect that most parsers would use those triples in the graph it builds21:42
akozakso if im writing a code snippet showing how to use rdfa, is the only way to avoid parsers thinking they are actual triples to do things like replace < and > with &lt; and &gt;21:45
JED3akozak: http://code.creativecommons.org/~john/attrib_test.html21:45
JED3http://scraper.creativecommons.org/apps/triples?url=http://code.creativecommons.org/~john/attrib_test.html21:45
akozakJED3, yea but don't you *not* want that to happen?21:46
JED3akozak: yes, you *don't*21:46
JED3you could replace the brackets with entities that should work21:47
akozakhrm21:47
akozakI might as well not put it in a textarea then21:48
JED3akozak: yeah, no need for a textarea then21:50
JED3akozak: http://code.creativecommons.org/~john/excaped_rdfa.html and its empty results: http://scraper.creativecommons.org/apps/triples?url=http://code.creativecommons.org/~john/excaped_rdfa.html21:50
akozakJED3, yea I wish there was a way around that21:51
akozakoh well21:51
JED3akozak: why?21:51
akozakJED3, so I could just drop in html into something like a <code> tag without having to escape it all21:51
akozakand it was understood that the code wasn't to be interpreted21:52
paroneayeanyergler: ping21:52
paroneayeaon http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_CC_Deeds should I say it's best to email webmaster@ if you need translations updated on live?21:52
JED3akozak: well <pre> does that for a browser21:53
JED3akozak: ...maybe not21:53
paroneayeabtw, <pre> is kosher html; is it kosher xhtml?21:54
paroneayeaI'm guessing not, but I've never looked21:54
mralexit's in the spec21:54
* paroneayea looking, yeah21:55
akozaki wonder if rdfa parsers respect it though21:55
JED3pre is strictly for formatting, i thought it also signalled that the child elements should be interpretted as a text node21:55
mralexbut not encouraged i think21:55
paroneayeaoh, you mean it is allowed, per the spec21:55
mralexit's allowed by frowned upon ;)21:55
mralexer, but21:55
paroneayeamralex: strange since technically things between <pre> can be totally broken from xml standpoints21:55
paroneayeaand can break it if you run it through a generic xml parser21:55
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