Monday, 2010-11-08

SamWhitedI have a quick question about a work I want to use which is licensed under the CC Attribution 3.0 Unported license. I want to use an image on a show-poster I'm designing for a local theater, however, I can not include the attribution on the poster itself. Would it be within my rights to include the attribution in the show's program even though it won't be visible everywhere on the poster (or include the attribution on the theater's websit00:01
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paroneayeankinkade: yo15:38
nkinkadeparoneayea: Hi.15:39
paroneayeaI looked more into this and filed a bug for one thing
paroneayeabut also15:45
paroneayeaI tried commiting from and it wants auth for
paroneayeaI must be doing something wrong15:47
paroneayeacwebber@a7:/var/www/$ svn ci -m ".pd_explain_differnces not checked in I guess"15:47's password:15:47
paroneayeahow does svn committing happen again, is it via public-key to the svn user?15:48
paroneayeaI made a new keypair for commiting from the servers (rather than my own machines)15:48
nkinkadeparoneayea: Yes, you'll have to add your new key to the svn user's authorized_keys file.15:49
nkinkade(on a7)15:49
paroneayea nkinkade: kk15:50
paroneayeankinkade: thx15:50
nkinkadeJust follow the patter of the other entries in that file, paroneayea.15:51
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JED3paroneayea: ping18:47
paroneayeaJED3: pong18:48
JED3I made a change in license.rdf, meaning i should run the tests for cc.engine, cc.license, and license.rdf. if they all pass am I safe to assume that this change is fine? it has to deal with chaning the selector class of publicdomain and mark, does cc.engine deal much with the selectors?18:51
JED3paroneayea: ^18:51
paroneayeaJED3: cc.engine doesn't currently use the selectors (a bug I should probably file on roundup)18:52
paroneayeaso it won't hurt cc.engine.18:52
JED3paroneayea: ahh okay18:52
JED3so the chooser doesn't construct an answers document anymore?18:53
JED3pure python conditionals to issue the license?18:53
paroneayeaJED3: it was always python conditionals in cc.engine :\18:53
JED3... i dont think i've ever looked over that part of the new cc.engine18:53
JED3oh it was?18:53
paroneayeaI pretty much ported it over from what I could tell in the old cc.engine18:54
paroneayeahold on18:54
JED3cc.engine used to build an answers document i thought?18:54
paroneayeadid it??18:54
JED3and passed it over to a different cc.license lib that output the license you wanted18:54
JED3this is all iirc18:55
paroneayeawell here's now it works now18:55
paroneayeaoh wait18:56
* paroneayea looking at deeds, smacks self18:56
paroneayeaokay, yes, here it is18:56
paroneayeaso you're right18:57
paroneayeaI didn't understand that about the selectors, so cc.engine doesn't use them.  I simply deconstructed it and ported it over to python conditionals18:57
JED3paroneayea: that's more preferred imo ;)18:58
JED3...your approach18:58
JED3so.. another question19:00
JED3this regards ZPT so hold onto your boots19:00
* paroneayea holds onto his boots19:01
* paroneayea accidentally pulls himself up by his bootstraps19:01
* paroneayea admired by laissez-faire capitalists everywhere for his accidental bootstrap pulling skills19:01
JED3i am trying to create a separate template for the chooser's index page but I'm getting tripped up on the macro template's naming19:04
JED3so i copied to engine_2_cols.pt19:05
JED3then changed the metal:use-macro to engine_2cols_template on chooser_pages/ but zpt isn't able to find that path19:06
JED3so how does the metal:use-macro work? "filename_template" ?19:07
paroneayeaJED3: ;)19:08
paroneayeaJED3: I pass the other templates into the context O:)19:08
paroneayeathat template loader stuff in zpt doesn't work without zope19:09
JED3so i need to modify the view?19:09
paroneayeaor I couldn't figure it out / didn't think it was worth my time19:09
mralexparoneayea:  JED3: low priority, but any idea why the deed's print stylesheet is suddenly not working? as in, nothing appears on the printed page.19:09
paroneayea    engine_template = util.get_zpt_template(19:09
paroneayea        'macros_templates/', target_lang)19:09
JED3paroneayea: :O thanks!19:09
paroneayeamralex: :O19:09
paroneayeamralex: well I just did an svn up on there19:10
paroneayeanot sure why it wouldn't be working19:10
paroneayeamaybe permissions...19:10
mralexthe css is getting included, but nothign is appearing. it's super weird.19:10
paroneayea-rw-rw-r--  1 nkinkade users  2117 2008-01-09 13:14 deed3-print.css19:11
paroneayeadoesn't look like it's changed...19:11
paroneayeanot sure why19:11
paroneayeamralex: whoa, yeah19:12
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mralexmaybe an errant display:none somewhere? can't view source on a print :(19:12
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paroneayeamralex: but that css file hasn't changed in 2 years19:12
mralexneither has the basic template, much, aside from the pd related rollout earlier, which shouldn't have changed anything that would affect the print styles19:13
paroneayeaI mean19:13
paroneayeathe file on the server has not changed19:13
paroneayeathe actual css file19:13
paroneayealast modified 2008-01-0919:14
jriachiI have found a 'by-sa' picture, and i want to use it in a book... does that mean that the whole book will have to be licensed under creative commons 'by-sa'?19:14
paroneayeajriachi: I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, but yes probably, or something compatible (CC BY or CC0), unless you get the author's permission otherwise19:16
JED3jriachi: I2ANAL but from our FAQ... "If you combine any work with a Creative Commons-licensed work that is licensed with a ShareAlike license provision, then, because of the way that the ShareAlike license element operates, the resultant work will need to be licensed under the same license as the original work."19:17
jriachiJED3: thanks19:19
jriachi(in the topic, sorry)19:20
jriachii guess i'll have to contact the author :)19:22
paroneayeaor license your work to BY-SA19:23
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JED3paroneayea: you around?22:31
paroneayeaJED3: sure am22:31
JED3paroneayea: have a moment in a bit to help with an i18n extraction on cc.engine?22:35
paroneayeaJED3: sure22:35
JED3nathan said you had some tooling built to mark strings using catalog keys as fuzzy when we change the content22:35
paroneayeahave to re-extract, change in master .po, then running ./bin/sync auto-fuzzies22:36
paroneayeawant me to extract it?  What do you want extracted22:37
JED3paroneayea: one sec, about to push another update with more strings22:43
paroneayeawhat's changing, out of curiosity?22:44
JED3removed the middle column on the chooser, and added text to the intro paragraphs22:46
JED3then on the results page, removed the duplicate donate link, removed the some rights reserved button, and a link to fairshare in the sidebar22:46
JED3the license keys that need to be extracted and marked fuzzy are...22:47
JED3license.explain, license.here_chosen, license.option_next_steps22:49
paroneayeaJED3: kk... I'll just do it from here since the process for extracting is currently non-optimal and I have it on my task list to make it into a more generic tool22:50
JED3paroneayea: awesome, yeah thats what i figured, best to leave it up to you at this point :)22:51
JED3paroneayea: oops i have another string that needs updating~!22:53
paroneayeaJED3: :O22:54
JED3paroneayea: ugh sorry, forgot about a separate issue sitting in roundup22:56
paroneayeaJED3: if you don't have the commits pushed yet I'm just going to push these out now and we'll get to the rest tomorrow, because I don't want to be super late to the LUG meeting22:58
JED3paroneayea: roger23:01
JED3i just pushed 1 wave of updates23:01
JED3this next one might take a while, so we can get to it tomorrow23:01
paroneayeaJED3: okay, let me know what the rest are for me to extract tomorrow23:02
JED3paroneayea: aye23:02
paroneayeaI'm syncing and updating transifex tomorrow, then I'm gonna run out the door23:02
paroneayeacya tomorrow23:02
JED3paroneayea: enjoy your ChiLUG mtg!23:03
paroneayeaDeKalb NIU LUG23:03
paroneayeaI'm not in chicago any more ;)23:03
paroneayeapushed to transifex23:05

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