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| tlk | Hello, any chance that GNU AGPLv3 is explained for humans ala http://creativecommons.org/licenses/GPL/2.0/ ? | 08:20 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: How fast does this page load for you? http://staging.creativecommons.net/civicrm/contribute/search&reset=1 | 17:44 |
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| mralex | nkinkade: not very fast | 17:44 |
| nkinkade | mralex: It barely loads at all for me ... it might after 3 or 4 minutes. | 17:45 |
| nkinkade | I don't know what's going on here. I don't have this problem on the live site, just on staging. | 17:45 |
| mralex | nkinkade: apache benchmark gives me an average of 1s to load over 10 requests | 17:45 |
| nkinkade | mralex: So ab loads its quickly, but your browser doesn't? | 17:46 |
| mralex | nkinkade: brwoser appears to be mostly slow in loading the css and js | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. There is a Varnish rule to pass() all requests to staging.CC.net. I just changed that to a pipe() and it seems quick now. | 17:47 |
| mralex | it's about as fast as staging usually is now. | 17:47 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: woot, the new metadata js works | 17:58 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: we need to set up a redirect for cc.org/apps to scraper.cc.org/apps, but other than that we can disable the scraper service on a5 | 17:59 |
| JED3 | ... if you havent already | 17:59 |
| nkinkade | JED3: No, I haven't. Is the redirect for those who may be using the service independent of the deeds? | 18:00 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: yes | 18:01 |
| paroneayea | JED3: jawesome | 18:02 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: JED3: How do we coordinate this transition? Is the only thing that needs to happen is pushing the changes to cc.engine live, then clearing the deed cache, then adding the redirect? | 18:07 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: yes afaik | 18:07 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: the redirect doesnt need to be done right now | 18:08 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Why's that? | 18:08 |
| nkinkade | What does the redirect need to look like? | 18:08 |
| JED3 | just merge cc.engine's next into master and clear the deed cache | 18:08 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Do you want to implement that redirect? | 18:08 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: the deed's wont be referencing the old path anymore | 18:08 |
| JED3 | they'll point to scraper.cc.org | 18:08 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: and yes i can add the redirect today | 18:09 |
| paroneayea | JED3: is it ready for golive? | 18:09 |
| * paroneayea makes some tea, brb | 18:09 | |
| JED3 | paroneayea: yes, i just pushed a commit to next that needs to be merged first | 18:09 |
| JED3 | ... on cc.engine | 18:09 |
| nkinkade | I'm ready whenever you guys are, but it seems that there's not much for me to at this point. | 18:09 |
| paroneayea | JED3: okay | 18:09 |
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| mralex | nkinkade: mlinksva: err, it appers creativecommons.net is down. | 18:17 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I think it's the massive amount of traffic from this mailing that just happened. | 18:18 |
| mlinksva | really? find it hard to believe the letter could generate massive traffic | 18:18 |
| JED3 | i cant ssh in | 18:18 |
| mlinksva | anyway, that's why i'm here now. | 18:18 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: is a9 reachable for you? | 18:19 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I'm logged in, but it's brutally slow. | 18:19 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: sigh, has serverbeach reported any issues in the past few days? | 18:20 |
| JED3 | i noticed a7 just a few moments ago as being incredibly unresponsive | 18:20 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Not that I know of, why? | 18:20 |
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| mattl | paroneayea: fix your database. | 18:24 |
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| paroneayea | mattl: my database? | 18:25 |
| mattl | https://creativecommons.net/sites/default/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=317&qid=220048 | 18:25 |
| mattl | DB_DataObject Error: DB Error: connect failed | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | arg | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: JED3: ^^ | 18:26 |
| mralex | mattl: we're aware of the problem | 18:26 |
| mattl | i'm making you extra aware of it. | 18:26 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: for obvious reasons I am going to delay deploying that new code to cc.org until cc.net is not a problem | 18:30 |
| paroneayea | and since I don't know much about cc.net, I guess I'm staying out of that. | 18:30 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: ok thx | 18:30 |
| mattl | cc.net is the openid thing, right? so, for whatever reason, i assume because my membership expired, but my openid just kinda stopped working one day. | 18:31 |
| mattl | i don't remember actually getting any kind of email about that, but maybe i just missed it. | 18:31 |
| paroneayea | mattl: cc.net moved from a django codebase to entirely civicrm this year, and some openid stuff broke iirc | 18:32 |
| JED3 | mattl: most likely your account expired, i can tell you definitively once we get this machine back up :/ | 18:32 |
| paroneayea | JED3 knows more about it though | 18:32 |
| paroneayea | or expired, you know :) | 18:33 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: the openid stuf that "broke" is back to the same level of what did and didn't work before the rework | 18:34 |
| mattl | JED3: awesome. yeah, get the machine back up first :) | 18:34 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: any site that uses that gd dotnetopenid library fails when trying to auth with our openid provider | 18:34 |
| JED3 | ...most notably stackoverflow, which we get plenty of complaints about :/ | 18:35 |
| paroneayea | JED3: ah, sux | 18:36 |
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| JED3 | a9 is back up | 18:47 |
| mlinksva | k, what was the problem? | 18:47 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: found "zend_mm_heap corrupted" in the apache logs right as things started to blow up | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Hmm. | 18:51 |
| nkinkade | It's not clear to me why 5K messages would cause a problem, when they haven't in the past. | 18:52 |
| JED3 | that seems to me to indicate that there was a memory leak somewhere | 18:52 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: so everything's clear and good on cc.net | 19:29 |
| paroneayea | think it's fair to deploy on cc.org then? | 19:29 |
| mlinksva | paroneayea, i think JED3 is at lunch | 19:29 |
| paroneayea | :) | 19:29 |
| paroneayea | mlinksva: I will wait to deploy this metadata scraper stuff till he gets back then :) | 19:30 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: hey | 20:05 |
| paroneayea | JED3: yooooooo | 20:05 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ6CcEOmlYU | 20:06 |
| JED3 | its go time | 20:06 |
| paroneayea | let's go | 20:09 |
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| * paroneayea wipes the cache | 20:13 | |
| paroneayea | ._______. | 20:13 |
| paroneayea | well all is running, but as expected, complete cache wipe has cc.org sloooow | 20:15 |
| paroneayea | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ but it's up | 20:15 |
| mattl | paroneayea: you changed it? | 20:16 |
| paroneayea | mattl: different rollout :D | 20:17 |
| paroneayea | we moved the metadata scraper onto another machine, updated the deeds to reflect that | 20:17 |
| paroneayea | has nothing to do with cc.net being down | 20:17 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: http://code.creativecommons.org/~john/attrib_test.html | 20:17 |
| paroneayea | earlier | 20:17 |
| JED3 | click through to the deed | 20:17 |
| paroneayea | JED3: looks grood | 20:17 |
| paroneayea | :D | 20:18 |
| mattl | ooh | 20:18 |
| JED3 | much faster now! another attractive aspect is that the scraper results can be cached clientside now :) | 20:18 |
| paroneayea | niice | 20:18 |
| JED3 | this should really lighten the load on a5 | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | someone hang up some inspirational posters, we are on a roll | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | +===========+ | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | || o o _o || | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | || Y M | || | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | || ^ ^ ^ || | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | |+---------+| | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | | TEAMWORK | | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | +-----------+ | 20:19 |
| JED3 | lol! | 20:20 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: i'm hovering over your new thinkpad right now | 20:35 |
| JED3 | u like win7 right? half way through the install right now | 20:35 |
| mattl | JED3: make sure you put the full visual studio on there. he'll need that. | 20:36 |
| paroneayea | JED3: ;p | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | JED3: So the scraper itself is faster too? | 20:36 |
| paroneayea | JED3: the choice between 32 bit and 64 bit windows was chosen by random.choice() :) | 20:37 |
| paroneayea | serius bizness | 20:37 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yes i think so, since its not sharing network io with the rest of a5 | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Memory seems to be fine too on the new machine. | 20:38 |
| JED3 | mattl: o i'll make sure of it | 20:38 |
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| nkinkade | I guess I need to update Nagios to start monitoring the new server. | 20:38 |
| nkinkade | JED3: This new machine handles /apps/triples and /apps/deed? | 20:38 |
| nkinkade | Both? | 20:38 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: what level linode vpm is it? | 20:38 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yes | 20:38 |
| nkinkade | 1024. | 20:38 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: /apps/triples is pretty much deprecated at this point | 20:39 |
| nkinkade | JED3: So we don't need to be monitoring it? | 20:39 |
| JED3 | we should still monitor its status though | 20:39 |
| nkinkade | But it's on the new machine in any event, right? | 20:39 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yeah keep it in nagios, but point it at scraper.cc.org/apps/triples | 20:39 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yes | 20:39 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: is a5 still running the scraper process? | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I think so, otherwise Nagios would have complained by now. :-) | 20:40 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: i'd like to run a quick benchmark against the two if it is | 20:40 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: okay good | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I'll just let you disable it when you're ready. | 20:40 |
| JED3 | ahh okay | 20:41 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: so for this vm, can we expect that it will only be used for the scraper? | 20:41 |
| JED3 | if so, i'd like to trade in apache for nginx | 20:42 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I'm not sure there was/is any long term plan for it, just to get scraper off a5 ASAP. | 20:42 |
| nkinkade | JED3: What big benefit will nginx bring for the scraper? | 20:42 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: ahh okay, but if this is only a 1024 instance, there's no point in throwing more on it | 20:42 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I guess I don't really mind, but you should probably run that by Nathan. | 20:43 |
| nkinkade | Maybe by commenting the ticket for moving the scraper. | 20:43 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: nginx won't do anything for the scraper in its current state, but i'm making some changes to the code of scraper that would make it less efficient when ran under apache | 20:45 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Cool. Like I say, that sounds like something to discuss with Nathan, but I have no problem with it. | 20:46 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yeah, i'd definitely run it by nry first, but beforehand i wanted to find out whether or not we were going to use the new server for anything else | 20:47 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Not that I know of. | 20:48 |
| JED3 | hey flickr finally removed the .../deed.xx from rel=license links | 20:53 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: i also changed cc.engine_stage to a writable clone, just as fyi | 20:57 |
| paroneayea | JED3: ? | 20:57 |
| paroneayea | not sure what you meant there | 20:58 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: it was a read-only clone of cc.engine | 20:58 |
| JED3 | the cc.engine_stage directory on a7 | 20:58 |
| JED3 | i need to push so i change the git configuration, and wasnt sure if you had it set to read-only for a reason. cant imagine why it would be but wanted to let you know that i changed it just in case | 20:59 |
| JED3 | add some past tenses there: needed* changed* | 21:00 |
| paroneayea | ah got it | 21:05 |
| mralex | i have an uncommitted change to results.pt on cc.engine_stage, i can move it out of hte way if it's in the way. | 21:05 |
| mralex | fyi | 21:06 |
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| paroneayea | mralex: kk | 21:11 |
| mralex | or, i guess, if it's in git just don't add it :) | 21:12 |
| JED3 | hrrm, i guess i should have benchmarked while the scraper was still on a5 | 21:16 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: can i make a slightly insane request? | 21:17 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: i'm only bugging you because i'm not sure how to deal with reseting the file cache | 21:20 |
| JED3 | but can we reset back before the js changes? | 21:21 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: did you order more memory for the backups rack? | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Didn't you get the email to webmaster? | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Sorry. | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | I was thinking you meant a9. | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Yes, more memory is on the way. | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | Should be there today or tomorrow. | 22:48 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yup, sitting in my lap | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Care to drop it in the box? | 22:48 |
| JED3 | nope not all, i'll do so now | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | Thanks! | 22:48 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Would it also be possible to plug the machine in and make sure that the memory works and is registering? | 22:56 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: yeah np, do you know if the orange room is wired for ethernet? | 23:00 |
| JED3 | i cant seem to find a port anywhere | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Wait, is the orange room the tiny one? | 23:00 |
| JED3 | the tiny one is green, the orange one is where we used to keep all the tshirts and mailing stuff | 23:01 |
| JED3 | otherwise known as the "mail room" i guess | 23:01 |
| JED3 | nkinkade ^ | 23:02 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Yeah, there is definitely a jack in there. I think it's on the back left wall as you're walking in. | 23:02 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: ahh okay, i think its been covered with the new file cabinets then | 23:03 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Does Apache need to be reloaded after the scraper logs are rotated? | 23:10 |
| nkinkade | No, right? | 23:10 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: no, as long as the logs' directory is writable by john:users, then apache with just create a new file | 23:11 |
| JED3 | will just* | 23:11 |
| nkinkade | Cool. At the moment the logrotate conf file is reloading Apache. I'll stop that. | 23:11 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: i can't find any port in the orange room, there is an empty wall port, with a blank plastic plate on the far left wall? | 23:12 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Hmm. My most recent memory is working there with paroneayea last time I was in SF. I thought it was back there. | 23:12 |
| nkinkade | Behind the big metal shelf with the tshirts on ti. | 23:13 |
| nkinkade | it | 23:13 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Could you just take it to another place in the office and plug it in? | 23:13 |
| JED3 | haha, yeah nothing's there, mralex just helped me look to make sure i wasn't insane | 23:15 |
| JED3 | the port that would have been where tshirts shelf used to be is now just a blank plastic face on the wall | 23:16 |
| JED3 | but yeah i'll plug it in elsewhere | 23:16 |
| JED3 | i only ask because the router doesn't have any available ports, so i have to unpload ani's hr machine, but thats fine for right now | 23:17 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Isn't there a wall jack by Ted's desk? | 23:37 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yes, but no openings avail | 23:37 |
| nkinkade | Ted's not using it right now, right? | 23:38 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I'm not seeing the machine? | 23:40 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: sorry got pulled away for a sec, its using the cable normally connected the HR PC | 23:41 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: how are you finding the machine anyhow? with nmap? | 23:41 |
| nkinkade | JED3: The other day when you powered it up for me I configured an virtual interface (eth0:0) to be at 10.0.2.99. | 23:42 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: odd, i'm not seeing it, how do i know whether or not it booted? | 23:46 |
| JED3 | there's 3 green lights illuminated, and 1 blue one flashing... | 23:46 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Perhaps it's running but has no eth connection? | 23:46 |
| nkinkade | I even just tried setting a virtual int. on the office machine to the same net as the public IP of that new server, but still can't reach it. | 23:47 |
| JED3 | doh, the ethernet cable needed to be pushed in by a hair | 23:47 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 23:47 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. Still can seem to reach it. | 23:48 |
| JED3 | hmm, there's green light coming from the network port, indicate its receiving packets right? | 23:48 |
| nkinkade | That should be right. | 23:49 |
| JED3 | still a blinking blue light on the front though, blinking at an interval, not like an activity indicator | 23:49 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I've got to run in a about 3 minutes. The main thing is to make sure the machine booted, and also that the extra 2G are being seen, for a total of 3G ... before we ship it down to Redwood City. | 23:49 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: sure, i'll check it | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | Thanks JED3! | 23:50 |
| JED3 | thanks for the help today! | 23:50 |
| JED3 | yeah no prob, have a good night | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | What did I do?! | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | I'm glad we got the scraper successfully moved. | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | And I've also got log rotating and backups happening for the new machine, as well as Nagios monitoring. I think we're set. | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | JED3: The public IP of that machine should be 149.20.54.15, and the private IP 10.0.2.99. | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | Just in case you get to configuring virtual interfaces. :-) | 23:52 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: heh alrighty\ | 23:54 |
| JED3 | whatever, you saved a9! | 23:54 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: got it up, back had to connect a monitor, it stalled on the boot asking to confirm the eth interface conf | 23:57 |
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