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* danbri wonders what you folks use to protect http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Main_Page from spam | 10:14 | |
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nyergler | nkinkade: looks like i only ordered 1G on it | 16:12 |
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nyergler | i have a vague recollection of thinking they were charging too much for the extra DIMM | 16:13 |
nkinkade | nyergler: Hmm. I wonder if we should drop another 1G in there? | 16:13 |
nyergler | sure | 16:13 |
nkinkade | I don't think i.CC is going to be memory intensive at all, but these days 1G is seeming sort of slim, do you think? | 16:13 |
nyergler | i agree, i think i was planning to get it from central or someplace | 16:14 |
nkinkade | Cool. | 16:14 |
nyergler | can you just find something that matches and have it shipped to the office while i'm away? | 16:14 |
nkinkade | I think the machine is mostly ready to go to ISC. | 16:14 |
nkinkade | nyergler: I'll figure out the RAM thing. | 16:14 |
nyergler | thakns | 16:14 |
nyergler | nkinkade: can i go ahead and power it down then before I leave? right now it's sort of barfed all over the orange room | 16:14 |
nkinkade | nyergler: Before shutting it down, let me uncomment the new IP in network/interfaces. | 16:15 |
nyergler | nkinkade: ok, thanks, just let me know when it's ready | 16:15 |
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nyergler | nkinkade: are we still requiring email confirmation for wiki edits? (don't want to change, just can't remember) | 16:18 |
nkinkade | nyergler: I'll have to check. I have this vague recollection that we removed that and were going to play it by ear. | 16:18 |
nkinkade | One sec., someones at the door. | 16:19 |
nyergler | ok | 16:19 |
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nyergler | nkinkade: when you get a chance can you double check what we're doing now wrt wiki editing? | 17:53 |
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danbri | hi nyergler, thanks, i'd love to know too | 18:26 |
nyergler | danbri: yup, that's why i'm checking :) | 18:26 |
danbri | :) | 18:26 |
danbri | esp. curious whether email signups are enough to keep the devils away | 18:26 |
nyergler | danbri: i can tell you they're not, at least not fully | 18:27 |
danbri | oh and a privacy question; if someone comes along to cc wiki and makes an openid-facilitated comment, do you consider that a matter of public record (ie. you could expose the openid as data at some point...) | 18:27 |
danbri | not = not enough protection...? or not yet using email much | 18:27 |
nyergler | not enough protection; i'm thinking that we turned off the email confirmation requirement because | 18:28 |
nyergler | a) it was causing lots of emails to the effect of, "why can't i edit?" | 18:28 |
danbri | oof | 18:28 |
nyergler | b) it wasn't eliminating spam | 18:28 |
nyergler | :/ | 18:28 |
danbri | so i somehow missed a load of new spam, it was not showing in the default 'recent edits' view | 18:28 |
nyergler | weird; does that view exclude "minor edits" by default? | 18:29 |
danbri | probably i should grep sql dumps for 'viagra' next time, or something low-level like that | 18:29 |
danbri | maybe, or they were talk pages perhaps | 18:29 |
danbri | we didn't do a lot of forensics beyond rescue/repair | 18:29 |
nyergler | right | 18:29 |
danbri | by we I mean Libby Miller who did the rescuing bit; i'm more trying to figure out how to keep it both open and safe... tough one :/ | 18:30 |
nyergler | we're saved at the moment by having one volunteer who does a great job watching things | 18:30 |
danbri | ah, lucky | 18:30 |
nyergler | right | 18:30 |
nyergler | yes, quite | 18:30 |
nyergler | nkinkade: what's the extension we turned on for Jesse in the CC wiki? | 18:30 |
nyergler | oh, right, AbuseFilter | 18:31 |
nyergler | danbri: you might want to check out AbuseFilter; our volunteer requested it, and i think it's helped keep things down quite a bit | 18:31 |
danbri | thanks, i'll take a look | 18:32 |
nyergler | also might be interesting to take that into account for the openid data sharing idea; i'll follow-up on the thread shortly | 18:32 |
danbri | i had capcha and blacklist, and felt i was doing enough but it's an arms war... | 18:32 |
danbri | thanks, would love to hear your view | 18:32 |
danbri | it's not a magic cure-all but if a few sites started, could be an interesting experiment at least | 18:32 |
nyergler | right | 18:33 |
* danbri heads off, take care! | 18:34 | |
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nkinkade | nyergler: Sorry about the delay. I had a friend stop by unexpectedly and it turned into a bit of a long visit .... | 18:47 |
nkinkade | I just checked and we stopped the emailconfirmed thing some time ago. Now, any registered user can edit. | 18:48 |
nyergler | nkinkade: thanks | 18:52 |
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nkinkade | nyergler: I'm confused by your js examples for deed.js and the scraper stuff ... I'm probably overlooking something obvious, but isn't everything being served off the same domain? | 19:25 |
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nyergler | nkinkade: labs vs. a7 | 19:59 |
nkinkade | nyergler: Maybe I didn't look close enough, sorry. I only saw a7. | 20:02 |
nkinkade | I didn't look at the js files, though. That must be it. | 20:03 |
nyergler | nkinkade: no, it's in the HTML | 20:03 |
nyergler | but assuming you request from labs.cc.org (which I think is the link I gave in the ticket, the js w/o a domain will retrieve from labs; other specifies a7 | 20:04 |
nyergler | two different tests, fwiw | 20:04 |
nkinkade | nyergler: You link to a7 in the ticket. Maybe that was it. | 20:04 |
nyergler | ah, crap | 20:05 |
nkinkade | I was just looking around at the files thinking: this is all coming from a7, what does this prove? I'll try it from labs. | 20:06 |
nyergler | nkinkade: ok to shutdown new-i? | 20:18 |
nkinkade | nyergler: Yeah, earlier I uncommented the new IP address, and added JED3 and paroneayea as users. | 20:19 |
nyergler | b | 20:19 |
nyergler | thanks | 20:19 |
nkinkade | nyergler: Anything else that's left can be done in it's new location. | 20:19 |
nkinkade | Oh, nyergler, and I also took the liberty of renaming the box ..... are you ready? | 20:19 |
nkinkade | a10 | 20:19 |
nkinkade | haha | 20:20 |
JED3 | thats a joke right? | 20:20 |
nkinkade | It's going to host mirrors too, so i.CC didn't seem like the name ... and I'm sure that in the passage of time we'll heap another 5 or 10 domains on it. | 20:20 |
nkinkade | JED3: No. :-) | 20:20 |
nyergler | LOL | 20:23 |
JED3 | our license may only be at 3.0 but our tech is 10.0 | 20:24 |
nkinkade | A+10 | 20:25 |
nkinkade | Grade A[10] | 20:25 |
nkinkade | I actually sort of like the a# convention ... it's sort of boring, but it's short and sweet, and easy. And it even implies some data about the order of provisioning. | 20:28 |
JED3 | nkinkade: i like it as well, how did the prefix "a" come about? | 20:29 |
nkinkade | JED3: It must go way back to the early days. | 20:29 |
JED3 | i also appreciate the "everett" user on most of the machines | 20:29 |
nkinkade | Probably had to do with Glen Brown(??) and Mike. | 20:29 |
nkinkade | There was initially a sever called "apps" | 20:30 |
nkinkade | Then the second server provisioned was a2, then a3. It was around the time of a4 that I came on board. | 20:30 |
nkinkade | Wow, I can also use those names to mark time. | 20:30 |
JED3 | a1 = 2001? | 20:31 |
JED3 | a10 = 2010 | 20:31 |
nkinkade | JED3: There was no a1 to my knowledge ... just apps, then straight to a2. | 20:31 |
nkinkade | But hey, you might be pretty close as to the names! | 20:32 |
JED3 | hah! we could have gone hex, and called it aa | 20:33 |
nkinkade | haha | 20:35 |
nkinkade | That would have been much more clever than the a10 I came up with. | 20:36 |
JED3 | so a10 is the hostname of a linode vm right? | 20:37 |
nkinkade | JED3: No, it's the hostname of the rack server in the office right now. | 20:39 |
nkinkade | The new i.CC.org, and mirrors.CC.org. | 20:40 |
JED3 | nkinkade: ahh ok, to be racked at isc? | 20:44 |
nkinkade | Yeah. | 20:48 |
paroneayea | wooy on a10 | 21:00 |
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