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| Jefro | hi all - I was pointed here by paulproteus (thanks) | 00:05 |
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| * paulproteus waves to Jefro | 00:05 | |
| Jefro | I have some questions about cc and other licenses, particularly BSD, for a project that is hardware-based rather than software-based. Anyone feel like tackling? | 00:06 |
| akozak | Jefro, I'm about to head home so I can't help but if you don't get any answers tonight feel free to email the cc-community list: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-community | 00:08 |
| akozak | or ask again during working hours PST :P | 00:08 |
| akozak | But we're mostly knowledgeable about CC, not BSD licenses | 00:09 |
| Jefro | akozak Ok, thanks - I'll email community. Mostly curious about the best way to license hardware, CC or BSD or ?? | 00:09 |
| akozak | or rather, we're less likely to be able to answer questions about BSD | 00:09 |
| nyergler | i suspect the answer is "it depends" | 00:10 |
| akozak | Jefro, depends on what you mean by "license hardware". | 00:10 |
| nyergler | hardware is tricky, since there are more than just copyrights involved | 00:10 |
| akozak | relevant: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/13/open-source-hardware-3.html | 00:10 |
| akozak | http://freedomdefined.org/OSHW | 00:10 |
| Jefro | akozak - cool, thanks (just subscribed to list). this hardware is a special case, already "open" (loosely licensed BSD-like). I want to recommend how to license it properly to ensure it can continue. Will post more on mailing list, thanks for the links. | 00:12 |
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| CC_Hudson | Project deedscraper build (5): SUCCESS in 5 min 6 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/deedscraper/5/ | 01:05 |
| CC_Hudson | Project metadata_scraper build (7): SUCCESS in 1 min 37 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/metadata_scraper/7/ | 01:07 |
| CC_Hudson | Project cc.engine build (14): STILL FAILING in 7 min 12 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.engine/14/ | 01:07 |
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| Mariusz | Hi there, hope there's anyone present here | 03:03 |
| Mariusz | I have an important question, and I am in a little hurry also | 03:04 |
| Mariusz | My question is pasted to http://wklej.to/CJiY/text | 03:05 |
| Mariusz | Please check it and give me an answer | 03:05 |
| Mariusz | Either here (I will keep this window open) or to my mail: realsyco@o2.pl | 03:06 |
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| karlcow | http://observatory.designobserver.com/entry.html?entry=15078 | 11:18 |
| karlcow | The Costs of Ownership: Why Copyright Protection Will Hurt the Fashion Industry | 11:18 |
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| akila87 | paroneayea: Hi, are you busy? | 14:04 |
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| paroneayea | hi akila87 | 14:10 |
| paroneayea | well I just got on :) | 14:10 |
| paroneayea | what's up | 14:10 |
| akila87 | i tested the plugin in windows 64 bits also there OOO comes with a 32 bit jvm bundled so there is no problem with that. | 14:11 |
| akila87 | but in win ooo does not recognize 64 bit jvm | 14:12 |
| akila87 | I'm wandering how it does in Mac | 14:12 |
| akila87 | in the screen shots that Timothy send me OpenOffice is using a jvm | 14:14 |
| akila87 | so I think our explanation about not detecting jvm is not valid. | 14:15 |
| akila87 | and I found a issue on this http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=92926 | 14:15 |
| akila87 | I'm still going through it :) | 14:16 |
| akila87 | just wanted to keep you updated. | 14:16 |
| paroneayea | hum interesting | 14:18 |
| paroneayea | yeah thanks for the update akila87 | 14:18 |
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| paroneayea | nyergler: hey | 16:23 |
| nyergler | paroneayea, morning | 16:24 |
| paroneayea | morning | 16:24 |
| paroneayea | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Public_Domain_Mark#Tech_Roadmap "basic" is the only one not wrapped in <p> | 16:24 |
| nyergler | paroneayea, it can be wrapped in <p> as far as i'm concerned | 16:24 |
| nyergler | just not necessary | 16:24 |
| paroneayea | also "Guidelines specified" is missing a closing </p>, assuming that's an error | 16:25 |
| nyergler | it is :) | 16:25 |
| nyergler | although that one isn't something you have to generate at the moment, we'll just support in deeds | 16:25 |
| paroneayea | kk, I'll fix it | 16:25 |
| nyergler | ugh, not sure if i looped you into that conversation -- | 16:25 |
| nyergler | the "norms" field needs to go away for the time being on the chooser | 16:25 |
| paroneayea | oh okay | 16:26 |
| paroneayea | and in the formatter as well then | 16:26 |
| nyergler | right; it'll probably come back at some point in the future | 16:26 |
| nyergler | but not part of the initial package | 16:26 |
| paroneayea | okay | 16:27 |
| paroneayea | also: | 16:27 |
| paroneayea | http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue638 you said no work url but | 16:27 |
| paroneayea | what about creator url? | 16:27 |
| paroneayea | oh wait | 16:27 |
| paroneayea | okay yes that is still a question :) | 16:28 |
| nyergler | yes, we should support a creator url | 16:28 |
| paroneayea | okay cool | 16:28 |
| nyergler | btw, http://labs.creativecommons.org/demos/pd/pd6.html is the latest mockup | 16:28 |
| nyergler | before you start doing deed templates, you should ping mralex for the latest HTML | 16:29 |
| nyergler | i *think* those are mostly locked down after today | 16:29 |
| paroneayea | okay | 16:29 |
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| paroneayea | nyergler: seems that some of these i18n strings may change around a bit before launch | 16:35 |
| paroneayea | I wonder if it makes sense to make a pdmark i18n branch? | 16:35 |
| paroneayea | nm that's a bad idea. | 16:36 |
| nyergler | they may change, but don't think we need a branch at the moment | 16:36 |
| paroneayea | changed my mind, we have enough problems with branches atm :D | 16:36 |
| nyergler | we can just defer extraction until they're locked | 16:36 |
| paroneayea | kk | 16:36 |
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| paroneayea | nyergler: http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue652 I just hope we get the icons in before the merge | 16:46 |
| paroneayea | if we forget we might be attacked by Reapers | 16:46 |
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| nyergler | :) | 16:47 |
| akila87 | paroneayea: Hi | 16:47 |
| paroneayea | hi akila87 | 16:47 |
| akila87 | paroneayea: I sent you the post. looks like waiting for clarify the mac os issue is not a good thing. | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | akila87: ok, thanks | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | looking now | 16:49 |
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| paroneayea | akila87: replied | 16:59 |
| akila87 | paroneayea: thanks :) | 17:00 |
| akila87 | and its the final day of GSoC | 17:00 |
| akila87 | :) | 17:00 |
| paroneayea | :) | 17:01 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: Was it my imagination or did I receive an invite for a tech meeting at 10AM PDT for today? | 17:12 |
| nyergler | that's in a couple weeks | 17:12 |
| nyergler | the 3rd | 17:13 |
| nkinkade | Ah ha. I was right about the day of week, just waaaay off on the date. :-) | 17:17 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 17:18 |
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| akozak | paulproteus, this call is still going on | 18:00 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Alack | 18:08 |
| paulproteus | It's amazing how lame I am in my time-wasting. | 18:09 |
| paulproteus | All I ever do, when I feel like it's okay to waste time, is hit Ctrl-T and go to Slashdot. | 18:09 |
| * nyergler suspects there are stories in Pivotal that haven't been done... ;) | 18:10 | |
| paulproteus | The first step is admitting I have a problem (-: | 18:11 |
| * paulproteus starts a pomodoro and gets to wr0k | 18:11 | |
| akila87 | nyergler: I removed the releases. See whether you can upload it now. | 18:14 |
| nyergler | akila87, it still seems to think it exists | 18:17 |
| nyergler | did you remove the entire extension? | 18:17 |
| akozak | paulproteus, just ended | 18:18 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Okay, gimme 10 min myself | 18:19 |
| akila87 | nyergler: no. only the version. now i deleted the whole extension. | 18:19 |
| akozak | paulproteus, anything i can do in the meantime | 18:20 |
| akozak | am i just doing some feed/curator administration | 18:20 |
| nyergler | ok, i'm going to log out/log in, and try again | 18:20 |
| paulproteus | akozak: We're going to do a totally fresh install. | 18:20 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Let's set up a screen on the new machine with "screen -x" so you can type while I watch. | 18:20 |
| akozak | now or in 10 min? | 18:21 |
| nyergler | paulproteus: just wondering if this is the sanest thing | 18:21 |
| nyergler | is it important that akozak be able to clean install/configure tomcat? | 18:21 |
| paulproteus | I leave that personnel decision in your hands as his supervisor. (-; | 18:21 |
| nyergler | i mean, we want our instructions to be complete, but were they ever that complete? | 18:21 |
| paulproteus | If you want, then, I can do the fresh setup, and start him with an empty install and watch him add curators etc.? | 18:22 |
| nyergler | that seems to be the level we were operating at previously | 18:22 |
| nyergler | does that seem sane to you? | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | Yup, fine by me! Doing so now then. | 18:22 |
| nyergler | since that's also the level that you can get to by just grabbing gimme-discovered | 18:22 |
| nyergler | thanks | 18:23 |
| paulproteus | b | 18:23 |
| akozak | p.s. I don't think I have access to the new machine. | 18:23 |
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| paulproteus | akozak: I can change that! (or so can nkinkade) | 18:24 |
| akila87 | nyergler: Is it working? | 18:24 |
| nyergler | still waiting... upload is slow | 18:25 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Do you have an SSH key I can add? I presume akozak on the machine is the right username. | 18:26 |
| akozak | paulproteus, yea you need the .pub right? | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | akozak: ya | 18:26 |
| akozak | paulproteus, ok emailing, hoping this is the right one | 18:26 |
| paulproteus | b | 18:26 |
| akozak | sent. btw what does "b" mean? | 18:28 |
| paulproteus | http://www.asheesh.org/note/communication/thumbs-up.html | 18:29 |
| akozak | haha, I loled | 18:29 |
| akozak | b d | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | :D | 18:29 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Okay -- you should be able to ssh in to akozak@discovered.labs.creativecommons.org | 18:30 |
| paulproteus | Plus you have a file ~/password . | 18:31 |
| akozak | yea it shouldn't be asking me for a pwd right? | 18:31 |
| akozak | I have like 3 different .pub keys floating around | 18:31 |
| nyergler | akila87, still fails, still seems to believe the old one exists | 18:31 |
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| paulproteus | akozak: Yeah, it shouldn't be. | 18:32 |
| nyergler | akila87, i'm going to try and host it on our server, provide a download link | 18:32 |
| nyergler | akozak, if you have multiple keys in .ssh, you'll need to use -i when ssh'ing | 18:32 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to do the basic setup stuff first, and I suggest you ask NK or NY to make you a shell there first, unless I beat them to it by finishing the initial deployment. | 18:32 |
| nyergler | (afaik) | 18:32 |
| akila87 | nyergler: use this link http://labs.creativecommons.org/gsoc/2010/ccooo.oxt | 18:33 |
| akila87 | nyergler: Christopher uploaded that. | 18:33 |
| akozak | god ssh keys have always been a pain for me for some reason | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Here are some tips. When you give them out, give out all your *.pub files in one bundle. | 18:34 |
| nyergler | akila87, what's the final version number? 0.7.0? 0.7.1? | 18:34 |
| akozak | paulproteus, well I tried -i for both of my keys and neither worked | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | Hmmph. | 18:34 |
| akila87 | nyergler: looks like the extension versions does not remove even if we remove the extesnsion. | 18:34 |
| akozak | and I have some odd detached .pub in my home dir | 18:34 |
| akila87 | nyergler: 0.7.0 | 18:34 |
| paulproteus | akozak: One other problem is sysadmins like me often screw up adding them. | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | WIth permissions and filenames and the like. | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | In fact... | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | Yup, the filename I used was wrong. retry. | 18:35 |
| akozak | paulproteus, worked :) | 18:35 |
| paulproteus | Er, tomato break. | 18:36 |
| nyergler | akila87, done! | 18:36 |
| nyergler | http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/ccooo | 18:37 |
| akila87 | nyergler: and can you please add this as the Download from page / Open follow up page: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/OpenOfficeOrg_Addin | 18:38 |
| nyergler | done | 18:40 |
| * paulproteus is Bach | 18:42 | |
| paulproteus | s/h/k/ | 18:42 |
| paulproteus | nyergler and akozak: I think the way today is shaping up, I'm going to deploy this myself, then watch akozak add some curators and feeds (nyergler -- just ND OCW, I guess?) and make sure the docs are okay, then nyergler can we skip our check-in for today, and just check in Mon morn? | 18:50 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Realistically I'm not going to have this ready for you before 12 PDT; what's your post-12 PDT schedule like? | 18:50 |
| akozak | paulproteus, shower, lunch, might relocate to a coffee shop. any of those can be delayed as needed | 18:52 |
| paulproteus | I suggest you and I finish what we need by 1 PM PDT, and then I break for the day DiscoverEd-wise. | 18:53 |
| akozak | paulproteus, ok that works for me | 18:53 |
| paulproteus | nyergler: I'm going to assume that works for you too, but say so if not. | 18:53 |
| paulproteus | nyergler: I'm also going to assume you want this in a system Tomcat; apt-getting tomcat5.5 for that reason. | 19:00 |
| nyergler | paulproteus, sounds good, maybe we can check in early on Monday since I'll be getting on a plane to DC | 19:05 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Okay, so -- ssh to discovered.labs.creativecommons.org then "screen -x" so I can see what you see | 19:05 |
| paulproteus | nyergler: Sounds good, you name the time and I'll do it. | 19:05 |
| nyergler | I think my flight leaves at 1030, so maybe just a phone call to sync up at 930 or something? | 19:05 |
| nyergler | i won't be online, so can you just plan to call my cell then? | 19:06 |
| paulproteus | nyergler: Sure -- calendar'd | 19:06 |
| nyergler | thanks | 19:06 |
| akozak | paulproteus, says there is no screen to attach | 19:06 |
| paulproteus | Oh, sorry -- you just do "screen" then to make a screen. | 19:06 |
| akozak | k | 19:06 |
| paulproteus | sorry! | 19:07 |
| paulproteus | akozak: One thing we should be doing is making sure the docs still apply. | 19:08 |
| paulproteus | So to that end, you might as well say which docs you're reading. | 19:08 |
| paulproteus | And if you're not reading some, you should be, so that we can know that reading the docs can succeed. | 19:09 |
| paulproteus | (What did env.sh do?) | 19:09 |
| * paulproteus reads http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Running_DiscoverEd | 19:09 | |
| paulproteus | Can you pastebin the old env.sh? I guess we don't have it (and honestly I don't want to rely on it) | 19:10 |
| akozak | paulproteus, all it does is sudo su -c "ulimit -n 4096; su $LOGNAME -;" | 19:11 |
| CC_Hudson | Project cc.i18n build (37): SUCCESS in 36 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.i18n/37/ | 19:11 |
| CC_Hudson | Transifex robot: l10n: Updated Georgian (ka) translation to 2% | 19:11 |
| akozak | I don't know what that does | 19:11 |
| paulproteus | Right, ulimit. | 19:11 |
| paulproteus | er, tomato break, brb | 19:11 |
| akozak | paulproteus, so assuming I don't need to set that or JAVA_HOME I'll try adding the feed/curator | 19:13 |
| paroneayea | paulproteus: what's a tomato break, since you've said that several times? | 19:15 |
| paulproteus | paroneayea: http://www.pomodorotechnique.com/ | 19:17 |
| paroneayea | paulproteus: oh neat | 19:18 |
| paroneayea | sounds like a neat task management system that can also prevent RSI's | 19:19 |
| akozak | I imagine it's most effective when everyone takes a break at the same time :P | 19:19 |
| paroneayea | akozak: yes it could make for a noisy office maybe :) | 19:19 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Okay, I adjusted the system config so that env.sh is formally unneeded. | 19:22 |
| paulproteus | akozak: BTW, "dump" works too (as I just showed in the screen) | 19:22 |
| nyergler | paulproteus: can you make sure that adjustment is documented in the wiki? | 19:22 |
| paulproteus | Yup | 19:22 |
| nyergler | oh, just saw your email, too; thanks (and pls add to wiki) | 19:23 |
| akozak | oh my | 19:23 |
| paulproteus | b | 19:23 |
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| akozak | I'm noticing a lot of learn.cc.org uris | 19:24 |
| nyergler | it's just the legacy namespace URI | 19:25 |
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| akozak | nyergler, are they still dereferenceable | 19:25 |
| akozak | suppose that's easy to check | 19:25 |
| nyergler | no, they're not | 19:25 |
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| akozak | paulproteus, so should I run this aggregate | 19:27 |
| paulproteus | Sure, let's rock it. | 19:27 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Do me a favor and sanity-check that what you're doing is as per http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Running_DiscoverEd | 19:28 |
| nyergler | i'm going to get some lunch, let me know if anything blows up | 19:28 |
| paulproteus | nyergler: b | 19:28 |
| akozak | paulproteus, yes :) | 19:28 |
| akozak | err | 19:29 |
| akozak | with one minor change | 19:29 |
| akozak | (addition) | 19:29 |
| akozak | actually, paulproteus if you were do do ./bin/feeds seed > seed/urls.txt and seed/ didn't exist, would it be created? | 19:29 |
| paulproteus | Nope | 19:30 |
| akozak | ok noted on the page | 19:31 |
| akozak | paulproteus, before I never had to do this as the discovered user | 19:32 |
| akozak | should that be noted? | 19:32 |
| akozak | oh it is | 19:32 |
| akozak | nevermind | 19:32 |
| paulproteus | It's my style that this be done as the discovered user. Other ways strike me as vaguely insane and lead to permissions insanity. | 19:32 |
| akozak | ok | 19:33 |
| * paulproteus is setting up Tomcat right now | 19:33 | |
| akozak | paulproteus, build successful. I'm assuming there's no production index to merge this one with | 19:36 |
| paulproteus | Agreed. | 19:36 |
| paulproteus | I'm having trouble getting Tomcat going, sadly. | 19:38 |
| paulproteus | Watching you type is hilarious. | 19:38 |
| akozak | :P | 19:40 |
| akozak | paulproteus, is production_crawl supposed to just be the crawl-# directory? | 19:40 |
| akozak | or does production contain the directory | 19:40 |
| paulproteus | You remember /usr/local/nutch/crawl/ ? | 19:40 |
| paulproteus | This is supposed to be like that, but with a more reasonable path. | 19:40 |
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| akozak | i must admit my memory is hazy :P | 19:41 |
| akozak | I remember | 19:41 |
| paulproteus | In that directory is where, literally, the production crawl should live. | 19:41 |
| akozak | right | 19:41 |
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| paulproteus | Which BTW we should update with a symlink update, which is atomic, not this rename nonsense. | 19:42 |
| akozak | don't laugh at me while I try to do this | 19:42 |
| paulproteus | Okay! | 19:42 |
| akozak | paulproteus, don't really follow | 19:42 |
| paulproteus | The symlink thing isn't really a note for you, just me being egotistical out loud. | 19:42 |
| paulproteus | nyergler: I have Tomcat errors that I don't understand; /var/log/tomcat5.5/catalina.2010-08-20.log | 19:43 |
| paulproteus | Wow, I'm not sure all that coffee today was a good idea. | 19:43 |
| nyergler | paulproteus, one second, let me look | 19:44 |
| paulproteus | Thanks! | 19:44 |
| paulproteus | brb, tomato break. | 19:44 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: when you're done with that I have something to discuss with you | 19:45 |
| akozak | paulproteus, I'm 100% sure that could have been accomplished in one step | 19:45 |
| akozak | instead it took me like 15 | 19:45 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 19:45 |
| nyergler | paulproteus: i think you need to look @ the "configure tomcat's file and webapp paths" section on http://wiki.apache.org/nutch/GettingNutchRunningWithDebian | 19:47 |
| akozak | paulproteus, if you have a structure like dirX/diry/stuffinhere, and you want it to replace dirX with dirY (move everything up a level) how does one do that easily? | 19:47 |
| nyergler | at least i have had to in the past | 19:47 |
| paulproteus | mv dirX dirX.disabled ; mv dirX.disabled/dirY dirX | 19:48 |
| akozak | ah easy enough | 19:49 |
| akozak | paulproteus, the index should be ready | 19:49 |
| akozak | err, crawl | 19:49 |
| paulproteus | b | 19:50 |
| paulproteus | nyergler: /me reads that, thanks | 19:50 |
| nyergler | paulproteus: akozak drawing attention to the latent learn.cc.org URLs does make me wonder if we should replace that with something resolvable | 19:50 |
| nyergler | i have oersearch.org; you can imagine some sanity for this project in putting a namespace doc @ oersearch.org/ns | 19:51 |
| nyergler | (or even wiki.cc.org/DiscoverEd/ns | 19:51 |
| akozak | paulproteus, is there anything else you'll need me to look at that right now? Or is double checking the wiki docs in 30-40 minutes OK? | 19:53 |
| akozak | when I got nutch running locally a few months back I remember a bunch of permissions pain | 19:53 |
| akozak | with tomcat | 19:53 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Double-checking the wiki in 30-40min is good. nyergler, I think I need to check out and finish this over the weekend anyway. | 19:54 |
| paulproteus | I'll give you an update on Mon morning, and also sooner by email. | 19:54 |
| nyergler | great, thanks | 19:54 |
| akozak | ok be back in a bit | 19:54 |
| paulproteus | akozak: Actually, just check them Monday. | 19:55 |
| * paulproteus waves ciao for now. | 19:55 | |
| akozak | paulproteus, ok :) | 19:55 |
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| paroneayea | aww | 20:00 |
| nyergler | paroneayea, you pinged? | 20:02 |
| nyergler | (sorry, slipped my mind) | 20:02 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: yeah, so | 20:03 |
| paroneayea | so I'm aware that JED3 used jinja and its translation stuff for the new strings in metadata scraper | 20:04 |
| paroneayea | I was wondering if I should do the same with this pdmark stuff | 20:04 |
| paroneayea | maybe not now that I think about it. | 20:04 |
| paroneayea | because there will be both zpt stuff and the stuff from the formatter | 20:05 |
| nyergler | why yes, why no? | 20:05 |
| nyergler | ah | 20:05 |
| nyergler | yeah, it should at least be consistent... we're doing zpt right now for formatters, right? | 20:05 |
| paroneayea | yes | 20:05 |
| paroneayea | er, | 20:05 |
| paroneayea | no, we're not using zpt | 20:05 |
| paroneayea | but we're using zope-style translations | 20:05 |
| paroneayea | so I guess yeah, we should be consistent | 20:06 |
| paroneayea | it's mostly the substitution pattern that would change | 20:06 |
| paroneayea | in the future actually I'd like to write a jinja tag that's zope-style translations in jinja | 20:06 |
| paroneayea | but not now because it's not necessary and time is short on this project | 20:06 |
| paroneayea | okay! question answered | 20:06 |
| paroneayea | thanks nyergler | 20:06 |
| nyergler | okay, great :) | 20:07 |
| nyergler | concur that consistency for translators is a good thing. | 20:07 |
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| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: norms_href and work_href both being axed | 20:49 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Are you in the office by chance? | 20:49 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: no, sorry i am not | 20:50 |
| nkinkade | Okay, cool. Thanks. | 20:50 |
| CC_Hudson | Project cc.engine build (15): STILL FAILING in 2 min 46 sec: http://code.creativecommons.org/hudson/job/cc.engine/15/ | 20:58 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Yikes, that extra form shouldn't have been there | 20:58 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: This one either! | 20:58 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Removing norms url and work url fields based on bugtracker / email conversations | 20:58 |
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| nyergler | nkinkade, ping | 21:29 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: yeah. | 21:29 |
| nyergler | i'm looking @ ted's laptop | 21:29 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 21:30 |
| nyergler | if I go to \\10.0.2.10 in the explorer, i get prompted for a password | 21:30 |
| nyergler | is that expected? | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: That's right. | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | I can't remember what the password is for the user 'accounting' | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | but that's the user that Ted should be using. | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: ^^ | 21:30 |
| nyergler | ok | 21:31 |
| nkinkade | We can always reset the password ... it's just a regular system account on that machine. | 21:31 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, it isn't just set through smbpasswd? | 21:31 |
| nyergler | i was going to ask if that was ok to reset | 21:31 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: Oh, you could be right. | 21:32 |
| nyergler | it does seem weird that it can't find \\backup, but can find \\10.0.2.10 | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: Oh. I know why. | 21:32 |
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| nkinkade | The machine is now named sf | 21:32 |
| nyergler | AH! | 21:32 |
| nyergler | that explains it | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | Not backup, since that name is reserved for the new "real" backup machine. | 21:32 |
| nyergler | his shortcut points to \\backup | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | Fuck. | 21:33 |
| nyergler | well at least we know what the problem is | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | Thanks for looking at that. I spent about 15 or 20 minutes trying to walk Ted through some troubleshooting, and ultimately realized that you could figure it out in just a couple minutes whereas it was going to take an hour with me. | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | The odd thing is that he says he connected just this morning, yet that machine has been named sf for at least several weeks. | 21:34 |
| nyergler | werid | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | Probably since I was last in the office. | 21:34 |
| nyergler | weird | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | That's why I didn't bother checking the URL for the link. | 21:34 |
| nyergler | maybe the winbind cache just expired? | 21:34 |
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| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Changing "your work" to "the marked work" in the (i) button | 21:38 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: Added slightly-modified-from-cc0 metadata lead-in text, per diane's email | 21:38 |
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| nkinkade | nyergler: I'm replying the Leland from Gandi. | 21:44 |
| nkinkade | How would you feel about proposing we test out the new Baltimore data center with a low volume site like rdfa.info or Acawiki? | 21:44 |
| nkinkade | Those aren't on servers we are intending to shut down soon, but still I think it would be nice to farm them out so that our busiest machine just run busy services. | 21:45 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, sounds reasonable | 21:45 |
| nyergler | would it be reasonable to ask for a couple slices, one small for rdfa/acawiki, one medium for teamspace or wiki-dot? | 21:45 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: I figure we could propose spinning up a single VPS and pushing a single low-volume site there for testing. | 21:46 |
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| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: Oh right, also gotta remove those fields from the template.render call! | 21:49 |
| paroneayea | my commits sure have sounded forgetful today. | 21:50 |
| nyergler | lol | 21:52 |
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| erlehmann | nkinkade, do you think the embed button should be optional? friends of mine argue that others should not use their server resources, but then, CC is all about sharing. | 23:33 |
| nkinkade | erlehmann: I'm just about to walk out the door. Can you send me an email that I can get to later this weekend or early next week? | 23:33 |
| erlehmann | ok | 23:34 |
| nkinkade | erlehmann: CC is all about sharing. | 23:34 |
| erlehmann | sharing is caring! | 23:34 |
| nkinkade | So it's hard for me to believe that someone would want to place an image under a CC license then make it hard for users to attribute them properly. | 23:34 |
| nkinkade | But options are good. | 23:34 |
| erlehmann | my thoughts exactly | 23:34 |
| nkinkade | Let's discuss this at more length early next week. Cool? | 23:34 |
| erlehmann | options are good, but resonable defaults are better. | 23:35 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 23:35 |
| erlehmann | ok, until then | 23:35 |
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| nkinkade | Have a nice weekend. | 23:35 |
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