Monday, 2010-08-09

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marucshi, I got a question about "no derivative works". Anyone able to help?18:06
nyerglermarucs, happy to try :)18:06
marucsI have some pupils who are making stop motion animated movies18:07
marucsand was wondering if it's ok to use NDW's as background music18:07
nyerglermarucs, not sure I can answer specifically, but in the US (at least) syncing music to images (ie, in a video/movie) is considered a derivative work18:08
marucsI want them to learn about copyright and CC. But I have to understand it myself first :)18:08
nyerglerso in the US the answer would be "no"18:08
marucsYea, ok. I'm in Norway, and afaik CC isn't localized here18:09
nyergleryeah, i'm not sure what the answer is for Norway... sorry18:10
marucsthanks for your help :)18:10
greg-gwell, all the 3.0 licenses, to the best of my knowledge, say "For the avoidance of doubt, where the Work is a musical work, performance or phonogram, the synchronization of the Work in timed-relation with a moving image ("synching") will be considered an Adaptation for the purpose of this License."18:15
greg-gmarucs: ^^18:15
greg-gand adaptation is not allowed in the ND licenses18:15
marucsgreg-g: thanks, such a shame, there are plenty of good music out there under ND licenses18:28
akozakmarucs, you're always free to contact the author and ask for permission18:29
akozakor to ask them to change the license :P18:29
akozaknkinkade, could you give me ("akozak") permission to edit pages on wiki-staging?18:39
nyerglerakozak, do you just need to confirm your email address?18:46
akozaknyergler, I did...18:46
nyerglerah ok18:46
akozaknyergler, says I'm confirmed in my preferences18:47
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akozakactually I take that back, I'm not a member of the emailconfirmed group even though I confirmed my email18:51
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JED3whoa awesome19:00
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nkinkadeakozak: You're an admin now.  User Akozak, right?19:08
akozaknkinkade, yes, thank you.19:08
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CC_HudsonYippie, build fixed!19:31
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CC_HudsonYippie, build fixed!20:34
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nkinkadeparoneayea: Is there anything special I should know about adding a new language to i18n?20:36
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greg-gwhy do those urls give 404s?20:37
nkinkadeThe old way probably doesn't apply these days, at least not completely:
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paroneayeankinkade: not that I can thin of20:43
nkinkadeparoneayea: Used to be that we had to copy things from po/ and i18n/, but I see that i18n is now gone.20:43
paroneayeankinkade: run ./bin/buildout :)20:43
nkinkadeparoneayea: I have.20:43
paroneayeait should be in cc/i18n/i18n20:44
nkinkadeparoneayea: The only thing in cc/i18n is po/ and master/20:44
paroneayeatry running ./bin/buildout -N again and paste the output to a pastebin please20:45
nyerglergreg-g, what urls?20:52
greg-gnyergler: the hudson URLs, they give "status code: 404"20:56
* greg-g goes afk20:59
nyerglernyergler, they should be working now... let me know if they still are 404 for you21:03
nkinkadeparoneayea: Huh.  I ran buildout again, with the -N option like you said, and it seems to have worked this time.21:04
paroneayeankinkade: sure21:05
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nyerglerparoneayea, sorry to bother you, not sure if you're off today or not, but wondering what the most up to date branch of cc.license is -- is master what we're using?21:41
nyerglerparoneayea, nevermind, appears21:42
nyerglerto be21:42
nyerglertrying to figure out why cc0 has an html template, cc licenses don't appear to...21:43
JED3is paroneayea off today?21:46
nyergleryes, until Thursday21:46
nyerglerhe's moving21:46
JED3ahh okay21:54
nkinkadeJED3: What's happening with those jurisdiction site URLs?22:00
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CC_Hudson* Nathan Kinkade: Added PO dir for new language Hindi.22:01
CC_Hudson* Nathan Kinkade: Added language hi (Hindi) and ran sync and po2cc.22:01
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JED3nkinkade: working on right now22:08
JED3on it*22:09
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JED3nkinkade: updated the rdf files and the api22:38
JED3nkinkade: let me know if you run across any other jurisdictions missing their local url22:39
nkinkadeJED3: Thanks!22:40
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paroneayeanyergler: hi23:23
nyerglerhi paroneayea23:23
paroneayeabefore I disappear23:23
nyerglermy question is unimportant :)23:23
nyerglerwill send an email23:23
paroneayeaso the answer is that the standard formatters used to use jinja templates also23:23
nyergleroh, but we changed because of i18n keys?23:23
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nyerglergot it, thanks23:24
paroneayeaCC0 formatters simply don't have translations23:24
paroneayeaso those are still jinja23:24
nyerglerparoneayea, but assuming we added i18n, then we'd move them out of the .html file?23:24
nyergler(if this is too much detail we can talk after you move)23:24
paroneayeanyergler: np... anyway I think what we'd have to do is make a custom {% trans %} tag for jinja23:24
paroneayealike {% cctrans %}23:25
paroneayeabut then we could keep the jinja templates.23:25
nyerglerok, thanks23:25
nyerglerhey, are you off through thursday, or until thursday?23:25
paroneayeab/c string interpolation like %(foo)s instead of ${foo}23:25
paroneayeauntil thursday.23:25
nyerglerok, thanks23:25
paroneayeathe guy is installing internets "before noon" central time23:26
paroneayeaso I may be offline until 10 your time23:26
paroneayeahopefully not later.23:26
paroneayeabut I'll work the whole day23:26
paroneayeaif anything is urgent I still have my phone, and internet works from the phone in dekalb23:26
nyerglerok, thanks23:26
paroneayeaif worst comes to worst/disaster strikes I still have ssh access on the go in tiny-keyboard-form :)23:26
paroneayeashutting down my laptop now!23:26
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