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| marucs | hi, I got a question about "no derivative works". Anyone able to help? | 18:06 |
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| nyergler | marucs, happy to try :) | 18:06 |
| marucs | I have some pupils who are making stop motion animated movies | 18:07 |
| marucs | and was wondering if it's ok to use NDW's as background music | 18:07 |
| nyergler | marucs, not sure I can answer specifically, but in the US (at least) syncing music to images (ie, in a video/movie) is considered a derivative work | 18:08 |
| marucs | I want them to learn about copyright and CC. But I have to understand it myself first :) | 18:08 |
| nyergler | :) | 18:08 |
| nyergler | so in the US the answer would be "no" | 18:08 |
| marucs | Yea, ok. I'm in Norway, and afaik CC isn't localized here | 18:09 |
| nyergler | yeah, i'm not sure what the answer is for Norway... sorry | 18:10 |
| marucs | thanks for your help :) | 18:10 |
| greg-g | well, all the 3.0 licenses, to the best of my knowledge, say "For the avoidance of doubt, where the Work is a musical work, performance or phonogram, the synchronization of the Work in timed-relation with a moving image ("synching") will be considered an Adaptation for the purpose of this License." | 18:15 |
| greg-g | marucs: ^^ | 18:15 |
| greg-g | and adaptation is not allowed in the ND licenses | 18:15 |
| marucs | greg-g: thanks, such a shame, there are plenty of good music out there under ND licenses | 18:28 |
| akozak | marucs, you're always free to contact the author and ask for permission | 18:29 |
| akozak | or to ask them to change the license :P | 18:29 |
| akozak | nkinkade, could you give me ("akozak") permission to edit pages on wiki-staging? | 18:39 |
| nyergler | akozak, do you just need to confirm your email address? | 18:46 |
| akozak | nyergler, I did... | 18:46 |
| nyergler | ah ok | 18:46 |
| akozak | nyergler, says I'm confirmed in my preferences | 18:47 |
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| JED3 | whoa awesome | 19:00 |
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| nkinkade | akozak: You're an admin now. User Akozak, right? | 19:08 |
| akozak | nkinkade, yes, thank you. | 19:08 |
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| CC_Hudson | Yippie, build fixed! | 19:31 |
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| nkinkade | paroneayea: Is there anything special I should know about adding a new language to i18n? | 20:36 |
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| greg-g | why do those urls give 404s? | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | The old way probably doesn't apply these days, at least not completely: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_with_Pootle/Administration | 20:37 |
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| paroneayea | nkinkade: not that I can thin of | 20:43 |
| paroneayea | think | 20:43 |
| paroneayea | of | 20:43 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Used to be that we had to copy things from po/ and i18n/, but I see that i18n is now gone. | 20:43 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: run ./bin/buildout :) | 20:43 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: I have. | 20:43 |
| paroneayea | it should be in cc/i18n/i18n | 20:44 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: The only thing in cc/i18n is po/ and master/ | 20:44 |
| paroneayea | try running ./bin/buildout -N again and paste the output to a pastebin please | 20:45 |
| nyergler | greg-g, what urls? | 20:52 |
| greg-g | nyergler: the hudson URLs, they give "status code: 404" | 20:56 |
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| nyergler | nyergler, they should be working now... let me know if they still are 404 for you | 21:03 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Huh. I ran buildout again, with the -N option like you said, and it seems to have worked this time. | 21:04 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 21:04 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: sure | 21:05 |
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| nyergler | paroneayea, sorry to bother you, not sure if you're off today or not, but wondering what the most up to date branch of cc.license is -- is master what we're using? | 21:41 |
| nyergler | paroneayea, nevermind, appears | 21:42 |
| nyergler | to be | 21:42 |
| nyergler | trying to figure out why cc0 has an html template, cc licenses don't appear to... | 21:43 |
| JED3 | is paroneayea off today? | 21:46 |
| nyergler | yes, until Thursday | 21:46 |
| nyergler | he's moving | 21:46 |
| nyergler | (iirc) | 21:46 |
| JED3 | ahh okay | 21:54 |
| nkinkade | JED3: What's happening with those jurisdiction site URLs? | 22:00 |
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| CC_Hudson | * Nathan Kinkade: Added PO dir for new language Hindi. | 22:01 |
| CC_Hudson | * Nathan Kinkade: Added language hi (Hindi) and ran sync and po2cc. | 22:01 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: working on right now | 22:08 |
| JED3 | on it* | 22:09 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: updated the rdf files and the api | 22:38 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: let me know if you run across any other jurisdictions missing their local url | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Thanks! | 22:40 |
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| paroneayea | nyergler: hi | 23:23 |
| nyergler | hi paroneayea | 23:23 |
| paroneayea | before I disappear | 23:23 |
| nyergler | my question is unimportant :) | 23:23 |
| nyergler | will send an email | 23:23 |
| paroneayea | so the answer is that the standard formatters used to use jinja templates also | 23:23 |
| nyergler | ok | 23:23 |
| nyergler | oh, but we changed because of i18n keys? | 23:23 |
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| paroneayea | yes | 23:24 |
| nyergler | got it, thanks | 23:24 |
| paroneayea | CC0 formatters simply don't have translations | 23:24 |
| paroneayea | so those are still jinja | 23:24 |
| nyergler | paroneayea, but assuming we added i18n, then we'd move them out of the .html file? | 23:24 |
| nyergler | (if this is too much detail we can talk after you move) | 23:24 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: np... anyway I think what we'd have to do is make a custom {% trans %} tag for jinja | 23:24 |
| paroneayea | like {% cctrans %} | 23:25 |
| paroneayea | but then we could keep the jinja templates. | 23:25 |
| nyergler | ok, thanks | 23:25 |
| nyergler | hey, are you off through thursday, or until thursday? | 23:25 |
| paroneayea | b/c string interpolation like %(foo)s instead of ${foo} | 23:25 |
| paroneayea | until thursday. | 23:25 |
| nyergler | ok, thanks | 23:25 |
| paroneayea | the guy is installing internets "before noon" central time | 23:26 |
| paroneayea | so I may be offline until 10 your time | 23:26 |
| paroneayea | hopefully not later. | 23:26 |
| nyergler | ok | 23:26 |
| paroneayea | but I'll work the whole day | 23:26 |
| nyergler | thanks | 23:26 |
| paroneayea | if anything is urgent I still have my phone, and internet works from the phone in dekalb | 23:26 |
| nyergler | ok, thanks | 23:26 |
| paroneayea | if worst comes to worst/disaster strikes I still have ssh access on the go in tiny-keyboard-form :) | 23:26 |
| paroneayea | kk | 23:26 |
| paroneayea | shutting down my laptop now! | 23:26 |
| paroneayea | later. | 23:27 |
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