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enrry | hi all | 11:24 |
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rjcp | Hallo. | 13:31 |
paulproteus | Hello rjcp! | 14:06 |
rjcp | Hello paulproteus | 14:06 |
enrry | goodbye all! | 14:24 |
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enrry | hi all! | 17:13 |
k9d-925 | greetz, any reports from the salon in sf last night? | 17:15 |
k9d-925 | i wound up skipping it to work on my preso for dorkbot tonight =\ | 17:15 |
mralex | k9d-925: we recorded the event, http://www.ustream.tv/channel/creative-commons-salon | 17:17 |
k9d-925 | nice, bookmarked the channel! | 17:18 |
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enrry | goodbye all! | 17:26 |
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paroneayea | nkinkade: yo | 17:37 |
paroneayea | when you have a sec, if you could let me know about how to link directly to the msgid that would be helpful | 17:38 |
paroneayea | in pootle | 17:38 |
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akila87 | hi paroneayea, | 17:54 |
nkinkade | paroneayea: Yeah. One sec ... let me find it. | 17:55 |
nkinkade | paroneayea: The link will look like this: | 18:01 |
nkinkade | http://translate.creativecommons.org/vi/cc_org/translate.html?translate=1&view=1&pofilename=cc_org.po&item=57 | 18:01 |
nkinkade | Changing, of course "vi" to whatever lang code and the item=. | 18:01 |
nkinkade | The only way I have found to find the item number is to look at the source for the page where you see the string. | 18:02 |
paroneayea | nkinkade: aw man, that's kind of a pain | 18:03 |
paroneayea | you'd think there would be like a msgid=foo parameter | 18:03 |
paroneayea | anyway, thx for the help | 18:03 |
nkinkade | paroneayea: Maybe we can just start pointing people to the Transifex.net | 18:03 |
paroneayea | is it ready? | 18:03 |
nkinkade | I can't see any reason to keep using Pootle, but we haven't made the official switch yet. | 18:04 |
paroneayea | I imagine if we were using pootle + transifex at the same time there could be svn conflicts | 18:04 |
paroneayea | so what are we waiting on... an announcement of sorts? | 18:05 |
paroneayea | (I guess we'll be talking about this in meeting this week) | 18:05 |
paroneayea | oh hey akila87 | 18:11 |
paroneayea | sorry, didn't see that message | 18:12 |
paroneayea | what's up | 18:12 |
akila87 | paroneayea: i got the mail. | 18:12 |
akila87 | ya i think its better. | 18:12 |
paroneayea | so that makes sense? | 18:12 |
akila87 | yep :) | 18:12 |
paroneayea | great :) | 18:13 |
nkinkade | paroneayea: I think we should table topic during our meetings. I can't see why we shouldn't just make the move final. But I know NRY wanted to settle the whole thing about commits to Transifex.net being automatically pushed to staging before we launch officially. | 18:13 |
paroneayea | sounds good | 18:15 |
akila87 | paroneayea, i think [0] is better because it less confusing. if we are using [1] sometimes we can antecedently add unwanted strings too. like "com.sun.star..." | 18:16 |
paroneayea | akila87: In the extraction process? | 18:16 |
akila87 | ya | 18:16 |
* paroneayea looks again | 18:17 | |
paroneayea | so the difference you mean between [0] and [1] is calling xgettext on specific files? | 18:18 |
* paroneayea confused maybe on what you mean? | 18:18 | |
akila87 | if we use [0] we just have to put _() for the texts we want. | 18:19 |
akila87 | but if we use [1] | 18:19 |
paroneayea | I think [1] was suggesting doing that also (and is mostly the same thing?) | 18:20 |
paroneayea | Extractor | 18:20 |
paroneayea | xgettext -k_ | 18:20 |
paroneayea | System.out.println(_("Operation completed.")); | 18:20 |
akila87 | first we have to make the bundle, and in netbeans it shows all the strings as a list and you have to choose them one by one. | 18:20 |
akila87 | ya but i felt like [0] is easy when we have about 100 strings. | 18:21 |
paroneayea | extracting new strings probably won't happen too often and we can probably run "xgettext -k_ […]" before adding them to the catalog | 18:21 |
paroneayea | running that manually from the commandline (rather than through netbeans) I would suspect might be easier | 18:22 |
paroneayea | but I don't really know :) | 18:22 |
paroneayea | nyergler: ^^^ <- does that seem right? | 18:23 |
akila87 | no i mean about creating the bundle from netbeans, if we use the [1] | 18:24 |
akila87 | but in [0] we just have to use _() for the strings that need to be translated xgettext -k_ will do the rest. | 18:25 |
paroneayea | Maybe I misread but I'm not sure how [1] isn't saying that, but it doesn't really matter because I agree that this is the right approach anyway :) | 18:26 |
akila87 | :) | 18:26 |
paroneayea | [nyergler: nm, we clarified it] | 18:26 |
akila87 | and should we have make a script to make the resource bundle from .po, when compiling or user have to first create the resource bundle for each .po manually and then build the project. | 18:29 |
akila87 | i think you are talking about having a script to do it automatically ? | 18:30 |
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paroneayea | the former, yes | 18:31 |
paroneayea | it could be a separate script even, as long as the build system calls it | 18:31 |
paroneayea | only downside is if it slows the build system down | 18:31 |
akila87 | ok. :) | 18:31 |
paroneayea | if it slows things down to terribly then I think having it as a script that's run separately from build would be okay | 18:31 |
paroneayea | since those translations probably won't change as often as you recompile | 18:32 |
paroneayea | give it a test with the automatically-run-at-build and see how that goes | 18:32 |
akila87 | ya that make sense. | 18:33 |
paroneayea | great :) | 18:33 |
akila87 | i'll try it and tell you. hopefully, on tomorrow :) | 18:34 |
paroneayea | sounds great | 18:34 |
paroneayea | thx akila87! | 18:34 |
akila87 | hey, I'm the one who should thank :D thanks paroneayea!! | 18:35 |
paroneayea | nonsense ;) I'll settle for mutual thanks though. | 18:36 |
akila87 | :D :D | 18:36 |
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paroneayea | hey mralex | 20:50 |
paroneayea | are you the one who edits the javascript on cc.org normally or whatever? | 20:50 |
paroneayea | maybe that's nkinkade. Anyway: | 20:51 |
mralex | i work on it | 20:51 |
paroneayea | deed.js has an error on staging | 20:51 |
paroneayea | YAHOO.util.Event.onDOMReady(YAHOO.cc.load); | 20:51 |
paroneayea | ======= | 20:51 |
paroneayea | that ======= line shouldn't be there | 20:51 |
paroneayea | makes the js engine unhappy | 20:51 |
mralex | looks like a bit of svn conflict left over, safe to delete | 20:52 |
paroneayea | ah :) | 20:52 |
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JED3 | paroneayea: i believe that'd be my error | 21:09 |
JED3 | feel free to revert anything i did there | 21:09 |
paroneayea | kk | 21:19 |
paulproteus | nkinkade: Do you happen to use something like RRDTool? | 21:37 |
paulproteus | For my own benefit, I'm going through a tutorial at http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/tut/rrdtutorial.en.html | 21:37 |
paulproteus | It's a general tool for graphing time-based data for servers, like temperature or bits per second or Varnish cache hits over time. | 21:38 |
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nkinkade | paulproteus: We use RRDTool, but indirectly via a package called cacti. | 21:50 |
paulproteus | What sort of stuff do you measure with it? | 21:51 |
akozak | I'm in love with mediawiki mode for emacs | 21:51 |
akozak | thanks for the help JED3 | 21:51 |
JED3 | akozak: no prob | 21:52 |
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JED3 | paroneayea: i've got this apache mongodb log working very nicely, but can't think of any interesting use cases for it now that i have it built | 21:55 |
JED3 | any ideas? | 21:55 |
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akozak | anyone a regex wizard? | 22:40 |
akozak | I'm trying to filter a buffer for instances of {{{field|***whatever is here***}}} | 22:41 |
mralex | the bit between field| and }}}? | 23:01 |
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paroneayea | akozak: wait, are you trying to capture ***whatever is here*** ? | 23:09 |
akozak | paroneayea, that surrounded by the field braces | 23:10 |
akozak | like, each line contains one {{{field}}} element | 23:10 |
paroneayea | so you want to transfer it or just extract it? | 23:11 |
paroneayea | er, not transfer | 23:11 |
paroneayea | transform | 23:11 |
akozak | I guess either, I'm working in emacs so if I could do it on an emacs buffer and then open the results in a new buffer or window that would save me time | 23:12 |
akozak | I know I can execute a shell command on a region | 23:12 |
akozak | i was just going to grep my current buffer | 23:12 |
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nkinkade | akozak: $ perl -nle 'print for m/(\[.+?\])/g' test.txt | 23:36 |
paroneayea | nkinkade: :) | 23:36 |
nkinkade | akozak: you would need to change that to, say, {{{.+?}}}, instead of \[.+?\] | 23:37 |
nkinkade | But that should spit out all matching instances to stdout. | 23:37 |
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