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| JED3 | nkinkade: ping | 17:05 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Yeah. | 17:05 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: do you know if chris had any luck this morning? | 17:05 |
| nkinkade | JED3: With what. | 17:06 |
| JED3 | relaunching sanity | 17:07 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I think so, but we're not going to launch it till he gets back from vacation, just so as not to rush it. | 17:07 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: aye | 17:08 |
| JED3 | thanks | 17:08 |
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| paulproteus | nyergler: We talked about talking at 1 your time; can we do 1:30 or 2? I'm still cleaning up some things I want to be able to say are done (-; | 19:51 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: What sort of logging is enabled for the scraper on a7, again? | 20:15 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: it logs the responses in /var/log/metadata_scraper | 20:15 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Something bad happened on a7 around 13:45 UTC today. I can't find much in the logs. I'm wondering if you know of any other logs to look around in ... like the scraper log, tec. | 20:17 |
| nkinkade | Looks like the scraper log dir is empty. | 20:18 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: sure, looking now | 20:21 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: so on a7 the log is in /var/www/staging.creativecommons.org/metadata_scraper/metadata.log | 20:25 |
| JED3 | forgot to update the path there | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Are those Unix timestamps in the log? | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | Or just sequential numbers? | 20:29 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: yes | 20:29 |
| JED3 | timestamps | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Has that file ever been rotated? | 20:30 |
| nkinkade | I just picked out an entry and get this date: 2009-04-22 06:26:03 | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | Which seems improbable. | 20:31 |
| nyergler | JED3, nkinkade, akozak: tech call, 1 min, line 2 | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | And the last entry in the file yields this date: 2009-07-20 08:08:16 | 20:32 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: this is an old log actually | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | I can see. :-) | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | Where is the new one? | 20:32 |
| JED3 | :) | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: That works. | 20:33 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: not sure if there is one at all | 20:33 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, are you dialing in? | 20:38 |
| nkinkade | I was in there, but nobody else was in so I left. | 20:38 |
| nkinkade | Line 2? | 20:38 |
| nyergler | yeah | 20:39 |
| nyergler | we're there now | 20:39 |
| nyergler | maybe we're in the alternate universe | 20:39 |
| nyergler | we'll dial back in | 20:39 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, sorry, i dialed the wrong code | 20:39 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: git clobbers the cpu on a7 when you clone a repo | 20:50 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: whats the hostname for the office backup? | 21:02 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: sf.creativecommons.org | 21:06 |
| nkinkade | JED3: You're right that git hammers the CPU for a large clone, but we've had git up for a long time now, and it's not clear to me why git would suddenly be a problem, but not before. | 21:07 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: i was just noting something that I've just noticed myself | 21:07 |
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| JED3 | i've terminated two civicrm clones that were 1/2 half way through out of impatience, sitting this last one out | 21:08 |
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| mralex | labs.creativecommons.org isn't accessible | 21:27 |
| mralex | or chrome is being a bitch | 21:27 |
| nkinkade | a7 was gone for a minute, mralex. It's back. | 21:33 |
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| nyergler | nkinkade, did you update i18n on cc.engine on production in response to CC TW's email re: CC0? | 22:39 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: No, I haven't done anything on that. Should I have? | 22:40 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, i wasn't expecting you to, it just looked almost the same at a glance | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | Ah. I was sort of viewing that thread as between Diane, CC TW and Chris. | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | But I can certain update if need be ??? | 22:40 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, it primarily was | 22:41 |
| nyergler | i was just going to try and push it live if needed since chris is on vacatoin | 22:41 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: I can do that if you like? | 22:41 |
| nkinkade | Or if you're already, there I suppose it's easy enough. :-) | 22:41 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, i can do it, but it looks nearly identical to me | 22:42 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. | 22:42 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, with the exception of "Universal" being untranslated | 22:42 |
| nyergler | (which I think is license_xsl, so probably just a bug until we finally land sanity) | 22:42 |
| nkinkade | Maybe there is something uncommitted on a7? | 22:42 |
| nkinkade | Nope. Nothing uncommitted from Pootle. | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | At least not for zh_TW. | 22:44 |
| nyergler | ok | 22:44 |
| nyergler | i'll update cc.engine on a5 and re-ping CC TW | 22:44 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: ping | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: I just made all of the CC hosts dependent on A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | ... in Nagios. | 22:59 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, so if it can't reach the root server, it won't err out? | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | So if Nagios can't ping A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, then it won't bother notifying us about anything else. | 22:59 |
| nyergler | right | 22:59 |
| nyergler | thanks | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | That's the hope. | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | I think it should work. | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | I hope it's not bad netiquet to ping A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET every minute or two. | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | JED3: What's up? | 23:00 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: why is civicrm/CRM/Core/DAO in the gitignore list? | 23:00 |
| JED3 | is that dir a pear install? | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: Can you think of any of any other host that has a single fixed IP address that should never, ever be down? | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Because the DAO files are generated files at install time. | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | They are generated by xml/GenCode.php | 23:01 |
| JED3 | hmm okay, so I can't just drop civi into a drupal installation? | 23:01 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, not off the top of my head... | 23:02 |
| JED3 | guess i should be reading http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/Moving+an+Existing+Installation+to+a+New+Server+or+Location | 23:02 |
| nkinkade | I think it's a good one I have, but I feel mildly bad about using in that way. | 23:02 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, concur | 23:02 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, i suppose you could use GOOG or Y! | 23:02 |
| nyergler | i feel slightly less bad about that :) | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: Their IP address are much less fixed. | 23:03 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, oh, it needs to be fixed, right | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | One, they roundrobin, two they may possibly change (I think) | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | It needs to be a single IP address that we can count on. | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: I guess I don't feel too too bad about pinging a root name server every minute or two. I think they are all pretty much anycast addresses anyway, so it's not like we're loading one machine with our additional 64 bytes every minute. | 23:06 |
| nkinkade | It's mostly the principle that bothers me. | 23:06 |
| nkinkade | I'll think about another server, but leave it as is for the moment. | 23:06 |
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| nkinkade | nyergler: I just hit upon it, for what it's worth. Google Public DNS uses a couple of anycast addresses for that service. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4. I'll just use one of those. | 23:13 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, perfect | 23:15 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: that wiki page hasn't been much help, how should i go about installing civi? | 23:17 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Work from this doc: http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC/Installing+CiviCRM+from+subversion+%28SVN%29+repository | 23:17 |
| nkinkade | And this document, which I just recently made: http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Upgrading_CiviCRM | 23:18 |
| nkinkade | I think you already know about the latter. | 23:18 |
| JED3 | perfect, the former worked for me | 23:22 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: ping again :) | 23:48 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Yeah. | 23:48 |
| JED3 | just as a heads up i'm probably going to be bugging you a lot over the next couple weeks | 23:48 |
| JED3 | if you don't mind that is | 23:49 |
| JED3 | i'm getting a "Cannot redeclare civicrm_form_alter()" after enabling the civi admin theme module, forums say that you need to apply a patch to fix this problem | 23:49 |
| JED3 | can you tell me what the civicrm_templates directory does? | 23:50 |
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