Wednesday, 2010-06-02

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JED3nkinkade: ping17:05
nkinkadeJED3: Yeah.17:05
JED3nkinkade: do you know if chris had any luck this morning?17:05
nkinkadeJED3: With what.17:06
JED3relaunching sanity17:07
nkinkadeJED3: I think so, but we're not going to launch it till he gets back from vacation, just so as not to rush it.17:07
JED3nkinkade: aye17:08
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paulproteusnyergler: We talked about talking at 1 your time; can we do 1:30 or 2? I'm still cleaning up some things I want to be able to say are done (-;19:51
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nkinkadeJED3: What sort of logging is enabled for the scraper on a7, again?20:15
JED3nkinkade: it logs the responses in /var/log/metadata_scraper20:15
nkinkadeJED3: Something bad happened on a7 around 13:45 UTC today.  I can't find much in the logs.  I'm wondering if you know of any other logs to look around in ... like the scraper log, tec.20:17
nkinkadeLooks like the scraper log dir is empty.20:18
JED3nkinkade: sure, looking now20:21
JED3nkinkade: so on a7 the log is in /var/www/
JED3forgot to update the path there20:25
nkinkadeJED3:  Are those Unix timestamps in the log?20:29
nkinkadeOr just sequential numbers?20:29
JED3nkinkade: yes20:29
nkinkadeJED3: Has that file ever been rotated?20:30
nkinkadeI just picked out an entry and get this date: 2009-04-22 06:26:0320:31
nkinkadeWhich seems improbable.20:31
nyerglerJED3, nkinkade, akozak: tech call, 1 min, line 220:31
nkinkadeAnd the last entry in the file yields this date: 2009-07-20 08:08:1620:32
JED3nkinkade: this is an old log actually20:32
nkinkadeI can see. :-)20:32
nkinkadeWhere is the new one?20:32
nkinkadenyergler: That works.20:33
JED3nkinkade: not sure if there is one at all20:33
nyerglernkinkade, are you dialing in?20:38
nkinkadeI was in there, but nobody else was in so I left.20:38
nkinkadeLine 2?20:38
nyerglerwe're there now20:39
nyerglermaybe we're in the alternate universe20:39
nyerglerwe'll dial back in20:39
nyerglernkinkade, sorry, i dialed the wrong code20:39
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JED3nkinkade: git clobbers the cpu on a7 when you clone a repo20:50
JED3nkinkade: whats the hostname for the office backup?21:02
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nkinkadeJED3: sf.creativecommons.org21:06
nkinkadeJED3: You're right that git hammers the CPU for a large clone, but we've had git up for a long time now, and it's not clear to me why git would suddenly be a problem, but not before.21:07
JED3nkinkade: i was just noting something that I've just noticed myself21:07
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JED3i've terminated two civicrm clones that were 1/2 half way through out of impatience, sitting this last one out21:08
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mralexor chrome is being a bitch21:27
nkinkadea7 was gone for a minute, mralex.  It's back.21:33
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nyerglernkinkade, did you update i18n on cc.engine on production in response to CC TW's email re: CC0?22:39
nkinkadenyergler: No, I haven't done anything on that.  Should I have?22:40
nyerglernkinkade, i wasn't expecting you to, it just looked almost the same at a glance22:40
nkinkadeAh.  I was sort of viewing that thread as between Diane, CC TW and Chris.22:40
nkinkadeBut I can certain update if need be ???22:40
nyerglernkinkade, it primarily was22:41
nyergleri was just going to try and push it live if needed since chris is on vacatoin22:41
nkinkadenyergler: I can do that if you like?22:41
nkinkadeOr if you're already, there I suppose it's easy enough. :-)22:41
nyerglernkinkade, i can do it, but it looks nearly identical to me22:42
nyerglernkinkade, with the exception of "Universal" being untranslated22:42
nyergler(which I think is license_xsl, so probably just a bug until we finally land sanity)22:42
nkinkadeMaybe there is something uncommitted on a7?22:42
nkinkadeNope.  Nothing uncommitted from Pootle.22:43
nkinkadeAt least not for zh_TW.22:44
nyergleri'll update cc.engine on a5 and re-ping CC TW22:44
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JED3nkinkade: ping22:58
nkinkadenyergler: I just made all of the CC hosts dependent on A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET22:59
nkinkade... in Nagios.22:59
nyerglernkinkade, so if it can't reach the root server, it won't err out?22:59
nkinkadeSo if Nagios can't ping A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, then it won't bother notifying us about anything else.22:59
nkinkadeThat's the hope.22:59
nkinkadeI think it should work.22:59
nkinkadeI hope it's not bad netiquet to ping A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET every minute or two.23:00
nkinkadeJED3: What's up?23:00
JED3nkinkade: why is civicrm/CRM/Core/DAO in the gitignore list?23:00
JED3is that dir a pear install?23:00
nkinkadenyergler: Can you think of any of any other host that has a single fixed IP address that should never, ever be down?23:00
nkinkadeJED3: Because the DAO files are generated files at install time.23:01
nkinkadeThey are generated by xml/GenCode.php23:01
JED3hmm okay, so I can't just drop civi into a drupal installation?23:01
nyerglernkinkade,  not off the top of my head...23:02
JED3guess i should be reading
nkinkadeI think it's a good one I have, but I feel mildly bad about using in that way.23:02
nyerglernkinkade, concur23:02
nyerglernkinkade, i suppose you could use GOOG or Y!23:02
nyergleri feel slightly less bad about that :)23:03
nkinkadenyergler: Their IP address are much less fixed.23:03
nyerglernkinkade, oh, it needs to be fixed, right23:03
nkinkadeOne, they roundrobin, two they may possibly change (I think)23:03
nkinkadeIt needs to be a single IP address that we can count on.23:03
nkinkadenyergler: I guess I don't feel too too bad about pinging a root name server every minute or two.  I think they are all pretty much anycast addresses anyway, so it's not like we're loading one machine with our additional 64 bytes every minute.23:06
nkinkadeIt's mostly the principle that bothers me.23:06
nkinkadeI'll think about another server, but leave it as is for the moment.23:06
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nkinkadenyergler: I just hit upon it, for what it's worth.  Google Public DNS uses a couple of anycast addresses for that service. and  I'll just use one of those.23:13
nyerglernkinkade, perfect23:15
JED3nkinkade: that wiki page hasn't been much help, how should i go about installing civi?23:17
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nkinkadeJED3: Work from this doc:
nkinkadeAnd this document, which I just recently made:
nkinkadeI think you already know about the latter.23:18
JED3perfect, the former worked for me23:22
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JED3nkinkade: ping again :)23:48
nkinkadeJED3: Yeah.23:48
JED3just as a heads up i'm probably going to be bugging you a lot over the next couple weeks23:48
JED3if you don't mind that is23:49
JED3i'm getting a "Cannot redeclare civicrm_form_alter()" after enabling the civi admin theme module, forums say that you need to apply a patch to fix this problem23:49
JED3can you tell me what the civicrm_templates directory does?23:50

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