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mralex | akozak: JED3: y'all want a marquee? http://zupport.creativecommons.org/donate | 00:21 |
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akila87 | Hi paroneayea, | 17:18 |
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paroneayea | heya akila87 | 17:29 |
paroneayea | what's up | 17:29 |
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akila87 | I wrote the blog post can I send it to you in .odt format | 17:30 |
paroneayea | sure thing | 17:31 |
paroneayea | http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/19/webm-google-h-264/ | 17:31 |
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JED3 | paroneayea: listening to joi talk about that very topic right now ;) | 17:35 |
paroneayea | :D | 17:35 |
JED3 | i'm interested in how this will carry over to the ogg/theora discussions | 17:35 |
paroneayea | Google will give it a big push by making YouTube videos support it as well | 17:36 |
paroneayea | :D | 17:36 |
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paroneayea | JED3: did the meeting keep going or did he discuss it post-meeting? | 17:39 |
paroneayea | it seemed like suddenly everyone disconnected | 17:39 |
JED3 | paroneayea: post mtg | 17:40 |
JED3 | ahh it was adjourned | 17:40 |
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JED3 | paroneayea: hey have a sec? | 17:48 |
JED3 | mralex: in the shadow of WebM announcement there was this, did you catch it? http://blog.typekit.com/2010/05/19/typekit-and-google/ | 17:51 |
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mralex | JED3: yeah, haven't read typekit's post yet tho | 17:52 |
paroneayea | JED3: sure | 17:54 |
mralex | good times, http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/05/19/vp8-analysis | 17:54 |
mralex | http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/?p=377 | 17:55 |
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paroneayea | mralex: hm | 17:57 |
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paroneayea | mralex: http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/www.webmproject.org/en/us/media/pdf/vp8_bitstream.pdf | 18:25 |
paroneayea | looking at the actual spec, it does have code embedded in it | 18:25 |
paroneayea | but it doesn't look haphazardly pasted and etc | 18:25 |
paroneayea | it could just be that it's easier to describe things with code, and that's the advantage of having an actually free software spec | 18:26 |
paroneayea | er | 18:26 |
paroneayea | free software reference | 18:26 |
akozak | any word on the quality of the codec itself? | 18:26 |
mralex | better than theora, not as good as h.264, is the unverified word | 18:27 |
akozak | poor theora | 18:27 |
paroneayea | mralex: is the word of a h.264 developer it looked like :) | 18:27 |
mralex | indeed, but he knows more about video codecs than either of us, so i'll take his word | 18:28 |
akozak | dunno, people who know a lot about it have their own biases | 18:29 |
paroneayea | the xiph guys at libre planet were noting that the settings at which h.264 compression is compared isn't really accurate because h.264 and theora both aren't generally used with all the bells and whistles turned on, because they're not usable generally in all such circumstances | 18:29 |
paroneayea | and were noting that for example, with the same settings that youtube compresses at and most flash-based streaming plays at, theora does as good or better | 18:29 |
paroneayea | that's again someone with a bias talking, but :) | 18:29 |
akozak | im wary of the whole quality debate anyways. id gladly go for a slightly less initially optimal solution if it meant moving to an open standard | 18:30 |
akozak | no one should control video online, even if that means it's slightly higher quality | 18:31 |
paroneayea | agreed | 18:49 |
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paroneayea | and truth be told theora is even more than good enough for most people | 18:50 |
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JED3 | nkinkade: ping | 19:41 |
nkinkade | JED3: Hi. | 19:41 |
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JED3 | hi, how have you been managing upgrades to civicrm? are you using a checkout? if so, which tag? | 19:42 |
nkinkade | JED3: I do git rebase, then push the new code to a new remote branch like cc_production_3.1.3, then rename the local branch. | 19:43 |
JED3 | nkinkade: using git-svn merge initially or something? | 19:44 |
nkinkade | JED3: git-svn is already done in the background somewhere else. Our civicrm.git repo is fully git. | 19:44 |
nkinkade | First you'd do a git-pull. Then the git-rebase. | 19:45 |
nkinkade | But there are a few step extras since we run from source code and not a tarball distribution of CiviCRM. | 19:45 |
nkinkade | What's the problem? Do you want to upgrade from 3.1.3. to 3.1.4 for some reason? | 19:46 |
JED3 | nkinkade: no problem, was just curious how i should add civicrm as a dependency in a project of mine | 19:46 |
nkinkade | JED3: I'll write up a teamspace doc about the process for upgrading CiviCRM. | 19:47 |
JED3 | our civicrm repo will work just fine | 19:47 |
JED3 | and pull from that since you're handling updates there | 19:47 |
erlehmann | nkinkade, just for the protocol: i have not forgotten. i'll write my introductory post in the next few days. | 20:02 |
nkinkade | erlehmann: Good. Thanks. | 20:12 |
JED3 | paroneayea: nkinkade: no mtg today right? | 20:22 |
nkinkade | I suspect not with NRY in Indiana. | 20:22 |
paroneayea | you beat me to asking | 20:27 |
paroneayea | and yes I suppose that means no meeting | 20:28 |
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mralex | JED3: fyi, my ssh problem last night was because i was already logged into a9, and didn't realise it ;) | 22:08 |
JED3 | mralex: ahh thats yer problem right dare | 22:12 |
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