Wednesday, 2010-04-28

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nkinkadeJED3: Where in the GSoC interface can one find a student's info?17:10
JED3nkinkade: my student include his info in his proposal17:11
JED3nkinkade: your student's blog about page:
nkinkadeJED3: Thanks.  It just seems silly that I can't view his information in a standard interface, and that I've got to go hoping he stuck something in the proposal.17:14
JED3nkinkade: heh yeah, not sure why they don't make the student's google account to be visible to the mentors17:24
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mralexnkinkade: apparently XO Communications have extended fibre to our building, some representatives came by17:34
nkinkademralex: Nice.  Are they also offering service?17:35
nkinkadeI wonder who payed to have it run?  The building owners?17:35
mralexnkinkade: it appears so17:35
mralexthere are some new tenants, maybe them17:36
mralex(or the owners in resposne to the tenants)17:36
nkinkadeWell, I'm curious to hear what their offers are.17:36
mralexwell i have their contract prices right here17:37
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nkinkadeHa.  Google sent one of it's own emails to the Spam folder.17:58
nkinkadeerlehmann: Hi.  Did you receive my email?17:58
erlehmannnkinkade, indeed, i did. but i was offline most of the day and plan to visit someone now. i'll respond to you tomorrow, if that is considered okay.17:59
nkinkadeAnd they even threw a big red banner warning across the top "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal information."18:00
nkinkadeerlehmann: No rush.  I just sent it a few minutes ago.18:00
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erlehmannnkinkade, fine. till tomorrow, then. btw, in which time zone are you ? i usually add a location to gnome clock if there is someone new.18:02
nkinkadeerlehmann: I'm in Eastern time in the U.S.  Probably 5 (?) hours behind you?18:02
erlehmannfor the recort, i am in europe/berlin. utc+2, if i recall correctly.18:02
nkinkadeI'm UTC -4 right now.18:02
nkinkadeOkay 6 hours offset then.18:02
erlehmanni'll add that. thx.18:02
erlehmannso its 14:04 at your place18:04
erlehmanni hope that doesn't complicate things too much18:05
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nkinkadeerlehmann: Yeah, it's 14:09 now.18:09
nkinkademralex: I just saw an error message from Google Checkout.   Apparently someone tried to donate: $83333333.3318:09
nkinkadeAnd it got rejected for being too large.  That looks suspiciously like floating point issue18:10
nkinkadewith the recurring payments for $1000.18:10
mralexit does look like one of our recurring..18:10
nkinkadeI just tried it and seems to be working here without issue.18:10
nkinkadeCan you think of any reason why that could happens to someone?18:10
nkinkadeProbably not, but figured I'd run it by you.18:10
mralexthe only thing i can think of is a floating point error on some browser when using the choose your own18:11
paroneayeankinkade: so in
mralexthat's the only thing that does maths on the input amount18:12
nkinkademralex: That error was issues on the 25th and 26th.18:12
paroneayeaah, never mind18:12
JED3nkinkade: when do you want to test our new invite method?18:18
nkinkadeJED3: Yeah.18:18
nkinkadeJED3: I'll send a request right now.18:18
JED3nkinkade: paroneayea: i seem to recall there being a teamspace page for our meeting with Ben during the tech all-hands, specifically where we discussed the future of certain projects18:20
nkinkadeInvalid data: 'send'Failed for Status: 500.18:21
nkinkadeJED3: ^^18:21
paroneayeaI don't remember that page but it's possible18:21
nkinkadeJED3: I don't recall that page either.18:21
JED3nkinkade: are you sending a "send" variable?18:23
JED3in the data18:24
nkinkadeJED3: I don't think so.  There should only be $data and $hash in the POST.18:24
nkinkadeI've tested this out on an endpoint that I setup in PHP.18:24
JED3perhaps i should make that an optional field, yes i mean "send" as a key in $data18:24
nkinkadeJED3: Refer back to the reference.18:25
nkinkadeThat's what's getting sent.18:25
JED3okay, so what i'll do is move sent out of $data and into to the list of acceptable POST param's18:26
JED3but it'll be optional18:26
nkinkadeJED3: There shouldn't be a "sent" param anywhere, though.18:28
nkinkadeAre you seeing it on your end?18:28
JED3nkinkade: no, but its part of this specification, for testing purposes we should be able to override the sending of emails to recipients18:29
JED3so you don't have to implement anything new on your end18:29
nkinkadeJED3: Sorry, I forgot that NRY had mentioned that it should be part of it all.18:30
nkinkadeI think it makes most sense to have it outside of $data.18:31
JED3yeah, it definitely does, about to push that fix18:31
nkinkadeBut on the other hand, I also think it makes most sense to do that login on the Civi side.18:31
nkinkadeWhy bother notifying your URL for nothing?18:32
nkinkadeJED3: ^^18:32
nkinkadeIt's like saying: Hey!  Here's all this great data.  Now, just ignore me, it and forget you ever had this conversation."18:32
nkinkadeIf there is some reason that we don't want to send the invite, then we just shouldn't ping your app.18:33
JED3nkinkade: yeah but there may be other scripts that'll POST to this URL to create codes, that isn't neccesarily a part of civi18:33
nkinkadeStill, how does that matter?18:34
nkinkadeBasically, anything that POSTs to the endpoint should expect an invite to be sent.  If no invite should be sent, they why bother POSTing in the first place?18:35
JED3nkinkade: i'm not able to recall the exact reason why we built it in in the first place, but there was a reason i am sure of it. it may have been so that allison and mellissa could create codes in the admin interface without sending an email to someone18:35
nkinkadeThere is a similar logic on the Civi side.  The code is designed to POST to an arbitrary list of URLs.  I can't see the sense in adding some custom variable "send" that means something only to CC.18:36
nkinkadeI think we need to check with Nathan on this.  This doesn't seem right to me.18:36
JED3nkinkade: i see your point though, all requests to this url will require an email so it doesn't make much sense to allow no email to be sent18:36
nkinkadeJED3: That's my thought.  I can't see sending it, and including a switch that basically says: ignore this.18:37
nkinkadeIt also requires the Civi side to send a custom CC data field.18:37
JED3nkinkade: no it doesn't18:38
JED3its an optional parameter18:38
nkinkadeIt may be optional on your end.18:38
JED3its only sent if you want to override the default value18:38
JED3nkinkade: no its optional on yours18:38
JED3you still post with data=foo&hash=bar18:38
nkinkadeJED3: For it to be optional on my side, then I'd have to do some logic that asks whether I'm posting to
nkinkadeWhich makes the interface non-generic.18:39
JED3nkinkade: no its still generic18:39
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JED3you'll still post with data and hash18:39
JED3that's all18:39
nkinkadeWhere/when is "send" ever submitted, then?18:39
JED3its not, its an *optional* POST variable18:40
nkinkadeYes, but under what circumstances is that optional variable included.18:40
JED3so Civi can ignore its existence altogether18:40
nkinkadeSo you are saying that CiviCRM never will and never should send that variable ... that that variable will *only* ever be sent by some other service?18:41
nkinkadeIf so, that's fine.18:41
JED3nkinkade: correct18:41
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nkinkadeJED3: Let me know when to retest.18:42
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nkinkademralex: I just spoke with XO on the phone.  Those prices were per month.18:51
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nkinkadeJED3: It just worked.18:56
nkinkadeRemote said: {"url": "/a/redeem/AfXryyTn/"}18:56
JED3whoa, i literally updated 2 seconds ago18:57
nkinkadeI was just fixing something in my test script, and happed to run it a few times in a row.18:57
JED3cool, try it multiple times for the same contribution18:57
nkinkadeFailed for
nkinkadeStatus: 500.18:58
nkinkadeRemote said: Invitation already created18:58
JED3okay good18:58
nkinkadeJED3: I'm generating that manually.  Let me make a donation via PayPal's sandbox and see how it goes.18:59
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nkinkadeJED3: Did one for $10 just come through?19:00
nkinkadeOh, wait. 75.19:00
nkinkadeLet me try again.19:00
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nkinkadeJED3: Did you just get a successful invite call for $75?19:07
JED3nkinkade: for civi id #8176?19:08
nkinkadeJED3: Yeah, contr. ID 8176, user "Test User"19:09
JED3then yes i did19:09
JED3code: ZXVvaeOk19:09
nkinkadeI can't verify the email since it went to a sandbox account.19:09
JED3oh okay19:09
nkinkadeBut I did get the invite for the test one I ran manually a while ago.19:09
nkinkadeOkay, this seems to be working.19:09
nkinkadeI'm going to run out for lunch.19:10
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ea4xgrdo you know any GNU software written in Python?20:05
ea4xgrdoes any Creative Commons command line tool written in Python handle locale?20:05
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paroneayeaea4xgr: a number of GNU tools are written in python... mailman is one, I know20:07
paroneayeanot sure of any command line tools specifically that handle locale, but a good number of CC's webapps do20:08
ea4xgrparoneayea: thank you, good point20:08
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paroneayeankinkade: JED3: do you know if we're doing a devcall today?20:20
paroneayeaI don't see nathany online20:21
nkinkadeparoneayea: Not sure.20:21
* ea4xgr spots GNU Enterprise as another GNU project written in Python20:25
ea4xgr - does not lists programming languages used, unfortunately20:30
JED3paroneayea: not sure either20:31
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nathanynkinkade, JED3, paroneayea -- sorry, spaced our call20:33
nathanyyou guys still available?20:33
nkinkadeIs our usual  line #2?20:34
nathanydon't know, but i'm fine using that one20:34
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JED3ahh damn you skype, just got dropped20:41
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* ea4xgr has been told on #GNU about Bazaar (as a Python software in GNU)20:50
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paulproteusnathany: I keep doing C-x C-s in Eclipse. It seems to work due to C-x being ignored, and C-s being save.21:20
paulproteusAlso yay, my tests can now be run from ant.21:21
nathanypaulproteus, awesome!21:24
nathanypaulproteus, i just about have the JSPs split out from the nutch tree21:24
nathanypaulproteus, when you have a second can you sanity check this build structure for me?21:27
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paulproteusnathany: +
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mralexpaulproteus: +1 on the La Boulange coffee beans22:03
paulproteusmralex: Yay (-:22:03
mralexvery tasty22:04
paulproteusIt's amazing how much cheaper tasty coffee beans are than mediocre coffee from a coffee shop.22:04
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paulproteusI'm going to order some food from # /me is hungry23:28

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