| ea4xgr | I've subscribed to the cc-devel mailing list. The e-mail address used for the list (and only for the list) is myIRCnick at the domain gmail.com | 00:14 |
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| Nushio | oh sweet, there is a channel for creative commons | 01:44 |
| * Nushio was guessing/wondering | 01:44 | |
| Nushio | There was a study a while ago regarding what 'non commercial' meant | 01:44 |
| Nushio | i was wondering if anyone had any info on that | 01:45 |
| Nushio | I'm interested in publishing a comic book, and would like to use the cc-by-sa or cc-by-sa-nc license | 01:46 |
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| greg-g | Nushio: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Defining_Noncommercial | 02:28 |
| Nushio | thanks a lot greg-g! | 02:28 |
| greg-g | Nushio: no problem :) | 02:28 |
| Nushio | are you familiar with the topic? could I ask you a quick question? | 02:29 |
| Nushio | basically, i'd like to release the comic online as "non commercial", but would still like to sell printed versions of the comic | 02:30 |
| Nushio | im not sure if that would require me to use dual-licensing or not | 02:30 |
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| d00b | Hi every1, can any1 tell me who is the mentor for GSOC.. ?? | 14:32 |
| d00b | is nathany is back frm kenya conference ?? | 14:33 |
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| stas | d00b: you might wana try on cc-devel mailing list | 15:20 |
| paroneayea | d00b: nathany will probably be on here in a while also | 15:24 |
| d00b | stas: paroneayea: thnks for ur reply...jst waiting 4 nathany | 15:25 |
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| d00b | hi nathany: I'm waiting 4 ur reply on cc-devel mailing list for Openoffice addin for Ontology Extraction, if ur free, thn please reply. | 15:56 |
| nathany | hi d00b, just got into the office, digging through email now; sorry for the delay | 15:57 |
| d00b | nathany: thnks for ur reply, take ur time..i'm not in hurry :) | 15:58 |
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| nathany | thanks, sorry that this fell at a busy time for me... i'll try and get you a reply shortly | 15:58 |
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| lotia | nathany: validating correct rdfa. should a pacge have no errors when passed through the w3c validator? | 16:41 |
| lotia | s/pacge/pacge/ | 16:41 |
| lotia | s/pacge/page/ even | 16:41 |
| nathany | lotia, ideally, yes | 16:42 |
| lotia | for both pacges and pages? | 16:42 |
| nathany | most parsers will deal with some errors, but the W3 validator understands RDFa these days | 16:42 |
| nathany | even in pacges | 16:42 |
| lotia | darn, you guys are taskmasters. | 16:42 |
| nathany | lotia, because RDFa will co-exist with HTML (even though it's only spec'ed for XHTML), most parsers will deal with that situation | 16:42 |
| nathany | lotia, i wish i knew how to make a whip-crack noise over IRC ;) | 16:43 |
| lotia | heh. | 16:43 |
| * lotia accidentally entered cc.org .... sheesh | 16:46 | |
| lotia | nathany any samples of correctly formed rdfa that you could point me at | 16:50 |
| nathany | lotia, one second | 16:51 |
| nathany | lotia, one that validates completely: http://labs.creativecommons.org/~nathan/agshare/mockups/fertilizer.html | 16:52 |
| nathany | lotia, one that does not validate, but which does have RDFa that can be extracted: http://labs.creativecommons.org/~nathan/info/decoupling.html | 16:53 |
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| lotia | nathany: thank you. | 16:57 |
| nathany | lotia, sure, let me know if you have any questions about the examples (they're both a little cooked) | 16:57 |
| lotia | will do. i'm working on running the sample output of our drupal app through w3c | 16:59 |
| greg-g | neat, I didn't know nathany was an expert in crop fertilizer | 17:10 |
| * greg-g waits for someone to pick up the perfectly placed joke hand-off | 17:11 | |
| nathany | greg-g, well i do shovel shit for a living | 17:12 |
| nathany | ;) | 17:12 |
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| greg-g | dangit, I missed the post-handoff high-five | 17:18 |
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| d00b | nathany: Do u have any idea that whether OBO file format is available for other ontologies excluding the gene ontology ?? | 18:12 |
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| nathany | d00b, I think OBO is just an OWL[2?] ontology, so it's not necessarily a file format (if that makes sense) | 18:14 |
| d00b | nathany, I think OWL and OBO is little different, so we need to do some mapping if me want to make plugin for OWL: http://www.med.univ-rennes1.fr/lim/doc_175.pdf | 18:30 |
| d00b | in that case I think it will be more useful...rather just supporting OBO format as what currently MS-Plugin is doing | 18:30 |
| nathany | d00b, ah, I didn't realize the MS Plugin only supported the OBO format. | 18:31 |
| d00b | even in the todo list of MS-Plugin , the developer mentioned that it would be great if we support owl or plain text...so I'm wondering that in order to make openoffice plugin better thn ms-plugin, we can use owl format right from beginning and regarding obo, we can first map to owl n thn use it.. | 18:33 |
| d00b | nathany, wat do u say ?? | 18:33 |
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| nathany | d00b, I don't have an opinion about the initial format to support; ideally any implementation would have an abstraction around the actual ontology so we could easily add support for alternate file formats | 18:35 |
| d00b | nathany, sound good, Anyways got ur mail..n I'm very sad that still there is not mentor rite now, but still I made my application in small txt format, can i share it with u ?? | 18:38 |
| nathany | d00b, yes, certainly; i hope to have a follow up from the person i want to mentor the project later today | 18:38 |
| d00b | nathany, I mailed my application to your cc email id, hope u will review it soon n please comment, so that I can improve it further. | 18:56 |
| nathany | d00b, thanks | 18:57 |
| stas | nathany: around? | 18:58 |
| nathany | hi stas | 18:58 |
| stas | hey | 18:58 |
| stas | sorry cross posted your email :) | 18:58 |
| stas | about what I was writing on options panel | 18:58 |
| stas | I better explain you in an example | 18:59 |
| stas | I'm from Romania, so I'm not interested in scrolling along all of the available cc licenses | 18:59 |
| stas | cause if the media is under my copyright | 18:59 |
| stas | the main license I will be interested in are which are from my country | 19:00 |
| stas | so that's why I think we need an options screen | 19:00 |
| nathany | right | 19:00 |
| stas | just to limit search time and usability | 19:00 |
| stas | also, that screen can be used to update the license's title and description, the default might get expired after some time | 19:01 |
| stas | so this will ease the work | 19:01 |
| nathany | what do you mean by license's title and description? title and description of the licensed work? | 19:01 |
| stas | nope, in different countries, the license description and title is translated | 19:02 |
| stas | still not sure about that, maybe we can just include it in localization packages that will be provided with the plugin | 19:03 |
| nathany | stas, that'd be my preference; that way everyone benefits from improved translations | 19:03 |
| stas | ok so now I'm clear what exactly is required and I think I'm ready to apply :) | 19:05 |
| stas | thanks a lot for sharing ideas | 19:05 |
| stas | btw, should I send my application as soon as possible or it doesn't really matter | 19:05 |
| stas | ? | 19:05 |
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| nathany | stas, if you'd like feedback, sending it earlier is a good idea | 19:06 |
| nathany | but there's not advantage in our selection process to doing so | 19:06 |
| ea4xgr | hi | 19:06 |
| stas | thats cool then :) | 19:06 |
| stas | ea4xgr: hi, and thanks for sent infos regarding application templates and stuff | 19:07 |
| ea4xgr | stas: my pleasure :) | 19:07 |
| ea4xgr | stas: I just hope that it will help to encourage ppl to participate in free software development :) | 19:08 |
| stas | ea4xgr: about that, may I ask how many applications you received last year? (this is my 1st gsoc) | 19:10 |
| ea4xgr | ea4xgr: I neither received nor submitted any applications last year (please remember that I am not a creative commons' representative) | 19:10 |
| ea4xgr | ea4xgr: I can share my application from 2008 with you, that's no problem | 19:11 |
| * ea4xgr will be afk for a bit :) | 19:11 | |
| stas | i see | 19:12 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: hi | 19:13 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: around | 19:16 |
| d00b | ?? | 19:16 |
| ea4xgr | I'll be back in a few minutes, sorry | 19:21 |
| d00b | ok | 19:34 |
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| ea4xgr | d00b: I'm back | 20:36 |
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| d00b | ea4xgr: in which project did u worked ?? | 20:45 |
| ea4xgr | d00b: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Rewrite_Metadata_Validator/SoC_2008 | 20:47 |
| ea4xgr | if you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask :) | 20:47 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: great idea... are you applying dis year also ?? | 20:49 |
| ea4xgr | yes, I shall apply for a project at CC at GSoC | 20:50 |
| ea4xgr | I am glad you like the idea; please bear in mind that this is free software and if you like the idea, it would be amazing if you would continue working on it | 20:50 |
| ea4xgr | there are a lot of things to be improved when it comes to validator and a few bugs, too! | 20:51 |
| ea4xgr | http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/validator.git/ http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/libvalidator.git/ | 20:51 |
| ea4xgr | the TODO list is here: http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/libvalidator.git/plain/TODO | 20:52 |
| nathany | ea4xgr, I'd be happy to talk to you about about things I'd like to see improved on the validator if you like; send me a reminder email if you want some details | 20:52 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: ya sure.. | 20:52 |
| ea4xgr | nathany: of course, I'll send it right away | 20:53 |
| d00b | nathany, did u checked my proposal...?? | 20:53 |
| nathany | d00b, I have not yet, no; i try to triage email once a day, then work through things i flag as needing a reply before i start the process over | 20:54 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: are you interested in OpenOffice plugin for Ontology extraction....(any idea or knowledge, which you want to give it to me) | 20:54 |
| d00b | nathany, its ok...i'll wait 4ur comments :) | 20:55 |
| ea4xgr | d00b: I am interested in all the projects, however, I am afraid I cannot be much help with this regard | 20:55 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: ok... | 20:57 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: had u ever made any openoffice plugin ?? | 20:59 |
| ea4xgr | nathany: the e-mail has been sent | 21:01 |
| ea4xgr | d00b: unfortunately, no, I have not; I am positive that it would be a wonderful opportunity to pick up some new skills | 21:02 |
| d00b | anyways.. I'm luking for some1 who used BasicAddonBuilder plugin for openoffice,.. | 21:03 |
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| ea4xgr | d00b: I'm not sure whether this will be much help, nevertheless: please be aware that a great student-Mihai Husleag-has successfully completed an ooo.org plug-in for CC at GSoC 2008 | 21:07 |
| ea4xgr | d00b: http://google-summer-of-code-2008-cc.googlecode.com/files/Mihai_Husleag.tar.gz | 21:08 |
| ea4xgr | d00b: http://labs.creativecommons.org/2008/08/12/flickr-image-re-use-for-openofficeorg-new-updates/ | 21:08 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: Great help... atleast I'll learn the coding style, and willl tweak with this plugin tonight, thnks :) | 21:10 |
| ea4xgr | any time | 21:10 |
| d00b | ez4xgr: can i add u in gtalk, so that we can talk more in this issue, since internet connection is little slow in my room so it create problem with freenode ... | 21:14 |
| d00b | ea4xgr | 21:15 |
| ea4xgr | d00b: if it supports XMPP, that's fine - I'll priv you the details | 21:16 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: XXX | 21:17 |
| d00b | is it ri8 ?? | 21:17 |
| ea4xgr | huh | 21:18 |
| ea4xgr | no, not exactly, I use this account only to send messages to the group :) | 21:18 |
| ea4xgr | ea4xgr: please check out the priv messages I have just sent to you | 21:18 |
| ea4xgr | d00b even | 21:18 |
| ea4xgr | :) | 21:18 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: wats ur original 1 ?? | 21:19 |
| d00b | which u use frequently | 21:19 |
| ea4xgr | d00b: can you see the private messages I have sent you on the IRC? I am reluctant to post the e-mail addresses on a channel which has its logs published on-line :) | 21:19 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: replied in pm | 21:20 |
| ea4xgr | however, you can reach me at the following address: username - "myGivenName"; domain - "mySurname.org" | 21:20 |
| ea4xgr | nathany: sorry to bother you, but is there any chance to have an e-mail address removed from the IRC log, so it cannot be harvested? | 21:21 |
| d00b | ea4xgr: thnks | 21:21 |
| nathany | ea4xgr, done | 21:29 |
| ea4xgr | nathany: thank you very much | 21:31 |
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| ea4xgr | oh, I can see this GTalk <-> XMPP bridge really works, good job | 21:43 |
| ea4xgr | or is GTalk an XMPP implementation in the first place? :) | 21:43 |
| ea4xgr | ok, the latter is correct | 21:48 |
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| ea4xgr | d00b: http://code.google.com/soc/2007/cc/appinfo.html?csaid=3D14317839E132A7 http://google-summer-of-code-2007-cc.googlecode.com/files/Cassio_Melo.tar.gz | 22:20 |
| ea4xgr | nathany: thanks | 22:41 |
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