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ea4xgr | hi | 16:03 |
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paroneayea | :O | 18:48 |
paroneayea | |\__\ | 18:49 |
paroneayea | / o_o | 18:49 |
paroneayea | /vvvv I AM BATMAN | 18:49 |
paroneayea | \vvvv | 18:49 |
akozak | looks like an owl | 18:54 |
JED3 | haha | 18:55 |
mralex | yeah, definitely an owl | 18:55 |
paroneayea | |\__\ | 18:56 |
paroneayea | / o_o | 18:56 |
paroneayea | /vvvv I AM POSSIBLY OWLMAN | 18:56 |
paroneayea | \vvvv DEPENDING ON WHO YOU LISTEN TO | 18:56 |
akozak | haha | 18:56 |
paroneayea | oh I see, you guys thought that was like, a stomach | 18:57 |
paroneayea | I just like making pointy teeth | 18:57 |
paroneayea | like: | 18:57 |
paroneayea | MIKE THOMPSON | 18:57 |
paroneayea | 18:57 | |
paroneayea | |||||| | 18:57 |
paroneayea | "" \ / | 18:57 |
paroneayea | "" o o S | 18:57 |
paroneayea | " / \ o | 18:57 |
paroneayea | G vvvvv |o o|// | 18:57 |
paroneayea | | ( \_^_/OOO | 18:57 |
paroneayea | \ ^^^^ //o _|\O | 18:57 |
paroneayea | / ____) o _|_|< | 18:57 |
paroneayea | / \ \\\ / / \O | 18:57 |
paroneayea | \ / / | 18:57 |
paroneayea | 18:58 | |
paroneayea | EATS BABIES | 18:58 |
paroneayea | ho ho ho, old google hwops days inside joke ascii art | 18:58 |
akozak | i like to think you do that on the fly | 18:58 |
paroneayea | I do some things on the fly | 18:58 |
JED3 | paroneayea: do you have an emacs to xchat|irssi|whatever-client plugin? | 18:59 |
paroneayea | JED3: yes | 18:59 |
paroneayea | erc | 18:59 |
paroneayea | emacs irc client | 18:59 |
JED3 | oh you use erc? | 18:59 |
paroneayea | yeah | 18:59 |
paroneayea | that way I can see when people are talking in channels I care about by looking at the mode line | 18:59 |
JED3 | oh neat-o, i just started using irssi, not sure why i leaped over trying erc first, doing so now... | 19:00 |
paroneayea | also I can copy and paste things from my ascii art file like THAT | 19:00 |
paroneayea | __ __ | 19:00 |
paroneayea | | \_ _/ | | 19:00 |
paroneayea | \ \.-----./ / | 19:00 |
paroneayea | / ____ __ \ | 19:00 |
paroneayea | | __ \_|_/_ .' | 19:00 |
paroneayea | / L_\ /_l \ | 19:00 |
paroneayea | | , , | | 19:00 |
paroneayea | ./ vvvv---vvvv |' | 19:00 |
paroneayea | / _ ./' | 19:00 |
paroneayea | | \_ ./ | 19:01 |
paroneayea | / \. ./ | 19:01 |
paroneayea | | \ | | 19:01 |
paroneayea | | \. | \ | 19:01 |
paroneayea | .' \ | | | 19:01 |
paroneayea | | \ | | | 19:01 |
paroneayea | ooh, I have some more HWOPS referencing ascii art in here | 19:01 |
paroneayea | datacenter monkey: | 19:01 |
paroneayea | .-. | 19:01 |
paroneayea | c/o_o\c I hear u need some | 19:01 |
paroneayea | \_o_/\. _ hard drives | 19:01 |
paroneayea | //DC \ / \ swappin | 19:01 |
paroneayea | //\__ /\/ | 19:01 |
paroneayea | '- __/ | 19:01 |
paroneayea | sysadmin monkey: | 19:01 |
paroneayea | .-. | 19:01 |
paroneayea | c/=_=\c i hear u need some | 19:01 |
paroneayea | \_^_/\. _ bash scriptin | 19:02 |
paroneayea | //SA \ / \ | 19:02 |
paroneayea | //\__ /\/ | 19:02 |
paroneayea | '- __/ | 19:02 |
paroneayea | Mike Thompson monkey: | 19:02 |
paroneayea | \-/ | 19:02 |
paroneayea | c/o_o\c I REQUIRE BABIES | 19:02 |
paroneayea | ^^^^/ \. _ | 19:02 |
paroneayea | ^^//MT \ / \ ALSO COFFEE | 19:02 |
paroneayea | //\__ /\/ | 19:02 |
paroneayea | '- __/ | 19:02 |
mralex | i need an adult | 19:03 |
akozak | haha | 19:03 |
akozak | the bash script monkey is not happy | 19:03 |
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JED3` | http://shop.mattel.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4032107&cp=3719989.3748552 i want ascii art to mock this, paroneayea | 19:10 |
akozak | i think we just found a metrics engineer | 19:11 |
paroneayea | hm. While I am generally not a fan of barbie due to the image issues her branding conveys, I actually thought that was pretty progressive of them and is probably a good thing given the ifluence barbie actually has | 19:11 |
akozak | it was actually the result of an internet vote | 19:12 |
paroneayea | the interernet was progressive then :) | 19:12 |
akozak | haha | 19:12 |
paroneayea | maybe this is close enough: | 19:12 |
paroneayea | ///\\\ ///\\ | 19:12 |
paroneayea | \\~_~| *_*)|| DID YOU HEAR THE LATEST | 19:12 |
paroneayea | _/ -' ,_ '-/--\ EXCITING CELEBRITY GOSSIP? | 19:12 |
paroneayea | / V \// /.' | | 19:12 |
paroneayea | //\ /u // \ / NO? OH RIGHT THERE'S NO | 19:12 |
paroneayea | \\/=o=| -. / \ SUCH THING | 19:12 |
paroneayea | (/\ | | /++++\ | 19:12 |
paroneayea | /_/_/ |||| | 19:12 |
paroneayea | |___)_) /-++-\ | 19:12 |
nathany | i for one look forward to the first retrospective of ascii art impressionism | 19:13 |
akozak | that ascii woman is nearly nsfw | 19:13 |
akozak | too much leg | 19:14 |
paroneayea | nathany: ++ | 19:14 |
paroneayea | akozak: oh shit an entire column of pipe leg characters | 19:14 |
akozak | haha | 19:14 |
paroneayea | s/column/row/ | 19:14 |
akozak | shes actually quite terrifying | 19:15 |
akozak | looks like the robot maid from the jetsons | 19:15 |
paroneayea | ,,, | 19:19 |
paroneayea | u^llll^ | 19:19 |
paroneayea | / \ * _*\ | 19:19 |
paroneayea | O-- | |_||--O OH MR. J | 19:19 |
paroneayea | _\__/___/ | 19:20 |
paroneayea | / 'uuuuuu'\ | 19:20 |
paroneayea | | | o | | 19:20 |
paroneayea | I love the jetsons. | 19:20 |
paroneayea | okay, back to work | 19:20 |
akozak | +1000 | 19:20 |
JED3` | akozak mralex curry/lunch? | 19:22 |
akozak | JED3`, hmmm | 19:26 |
akozak | which curry? | 19:27 |
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paroneayea | JED3: stupid question maybe, but | 19:52 |
paroneayea | what's the laziest way to turn a generator into a list? | 19:52 |
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paroneayea | I've been doing list comprehensions, which seems silly maybe | 19:53 |
paroneayea | generated_list = [i for i in this_generator] | 19:53 |
paroneayea | hm, had some discussion on this in #chipy | 20:14 |
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paroneayea | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/193909/ | 20:15 |
JED3 | paroneayea: are you using Firebug in Chrome? | 20:24 |
JED3 | paroneayea: list(generator) perhaps? | 20:25 |
nathany | paroneayea, JED3, nkinkade I think we're supposed to have a sync meeting in 5 min; i'd like to cancel unless there's something we need to discuss... not quite here mentally today | 20:27 |
nkinkade | nathany: No problem. | 20:27 |
nkinkade | I'm a little shy on anything meaningful to report this week anyway. | 20:28 |
nkinkade | nathany: But I would like to chat with you at some point about the IPN stuff. | 20:28 |
JED3 | nathany: no items from me | 20:29 |
nkinkade | I don't think it will be a huge amount of work, but I'm finding that we'll basically have to reinvent the wheel with regard to having our own IPN handlers. | 20:29 |
nathany | nkinkade, ok, trying to remember if you sent an email while i was in kenya that i haven't replied to on that | 20:29 |
JED3 | paroneayea: http://dpaste.com/176134/ | 20:29 |
nkinkade | The Civi code isn't quite modular enough for us to be able to leverage it, so I'll to somewhat rewrite IPN handling, though I may be able to borrow some of the Civi code. | 20:30 |
nkinkade | nathany: No, no pending emails. | 20:30 |
nathany | nkinkade, got it | 20:30 |
nathany | is this something we can coordinate with them to improve their approach? | 20:30 |
nathany | ie, do the development, test, with the expectation we can push upstream? | 20:30 |
nkinkade | nathany: I would have review their code a bit more. I suspect that it could be modularized, but even figuring out how to do that without breaking other things in CiviCRM might take some time. | 20:31 |
nkinkade | ... and likely some input/help from Lobo or others there. | 20:32 |
nathany | right | 20:32 |
nathany | is it worth checking in with them and finding out if it's something they're interested in? | 20:32 |
nathany | (i suspect it is) | 20:32 |
paroneayea | JED3: yeah, for some reason that doesn't work with the "generator object triples" returned by rdflib's .triples() method | 20:34 |
nkinkade | nathany: I'm asking on #civicrm right now. | 20:35 |
nathany | nkinkade, great | 20:35 |
nathany | nkinkade, i'm going to go get some coffee :) brb | 20:36 |
JED3 | paroneayea: is .triples() returning a type object that inherits generator? | 20:41 |
paroneayea | JED3: (Pdb) result.__class__ | 20:42 |
paroneayea | <type 'generator'> | 20:42 |
paroneayea | pretty weird, no? | 20:42 |
nkinkade | nathany: You can see dlobo's response on #civicrm ... basically go for it, and they will integrate it into core if it works. | 20:45 |
nathany | nkinkade, awesome | 20:46 |
nathany | let's do it :) | 20:46 |
nkinkade | I may spend a little time investigating that route as it seems better than trying to rewrite all the code, and then have to maintain two implemenations. | 20:46 |
nathany | yes, exactly | 20:46 |
nathany | and i like the idea that we can do it, and don't necessarily have to "own" it forever (even if we do help with fixes, bugs, improvements, etc) | 20:47 |
nkinkade | nathany: But back to my original question ... before we/I do that, are we feeling pretty certain that we must have IPN handling? | 20:47 |
nkinkade | The alternative is to just rely on a cron job like we are now. | 20:47 |
nkinkade | I could pretty easily add some tack-on function to that that notifies CC.net, etc. | 20:48 |
nathany | that's a cron job that runs CP right? | 20:48 |
nkinkade | nathany: Right. | 20:48 |
nkinkade | And we've already customized CP.php anyway, so it won't be any sweat for us to customize it a bit more to notify CC.net or do anything else. | 20:49 |
nathany | and we decided that that running CP from IPN was a bad idea due to locking, right? | 20:49 |
nkinkade | nathany: Well, doing our own IPN handling would require us to further modify CP.php so that we could pass in a trxn_id in order to help avoid problems that could arise by not locking the DB. | 20:49 |
nathany | does Civi have IPN handling at all right now? | 20:50 |
nkinkade | The main question here is whether we want to give donors near immediate responses rather then them having to wait for 15 or 20 minutes potentially. | 20:50 |
nathany | nkinkade, i think we do, especially if CCN is going to be a more integral part of fundraising | 20:51 |
nkinkade | nathany: It does have all the IPN handling, but CP.php doesn't use any of it because it was meant to be run from a cron job. | 20:51 |
nathany | of course, that assumes that we're not talking about weeks of dev time :) | 20:51 |
nkinkade | nathany: It's certainly a better implementation, but will just require some time. | 20:51 |
nathany | nkinkade, so what we really need to do is modify the IPN handling to allow it to "ping" other services with the IPN information, right? | 20:51 |
nathany | i guess i'm not clear on how that implies additional CP.php mods | 20:51 |
nkinkade | We should almost talk about this on the phone. :-) | 20:52 |
nathany | nkinkade, right | 20:52 |
nkinkade | But we can hold off until tomorrow or early next week. | 20:52 |
nkinkade | I can then spend a little time determining how much work it would really be. | 20:52 |
nathany | yeah, let's talk tomorrow morning if that's ok with you? | 20:52 |
nkinkade | It wouldn't be hours of work that would add up to weeks, but it could be weeks before it was ready, if that makes sense. | 20:53 |
nathany | it does | 20:53 |
nkinkade | I'll just go forward with it and if it looks like it'll be big, which I doubt, then I'll just continue. | 20:53 |
nathany | ok; can we talk briefly tomorrow morning about a brief overview of the work? | 20:54 |
nathany | i think we'll move forward with it, just want to check in with a little higher bandwidth | 20:54 |
nkinkade | Definitely. | 20:55 |
nathany | thanks, maybe we can just check in on IRC tomorrow AM and then I'll call you | 20:55 |
JED3 | paroneayea: the class must override __iter__ with something funky | 21:05 |
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mralex | nathany: nkinkade: Is there any spare CAT5 in the office? | 21:12 |
mralex | time capsule didn't come with | 21:13 |
nkinkade | mralex: Yeah. | 21:13 |
nkinkade | It's in the router closet, I think. | 21:13 |
nkinkade | Where the DSL modem is. | 21:13 |
nkinkade | The pliers and cable ends should be there with it, or else where the tools are found. | 21:14 |
nkinkade | mralex: Oh, you probably meant ready-made cables, right? | 21:14 |
mralex | nkinkade: ideally :) | 21:14 |
nkinkade | mralex: I think there are some long-ish cables, but exactly where they are I'm not sure. I wouldn't imagine they'd be too hard to find. Likely in the closet above the tshirts or else in the telco closet. | 21:16 |
mralex | yeah, i'll poke around | 21:16 |
mralex | thanks | 21:16 |
greg-g | haha '< nkinkade> mralex: Oh, you probably meant ready-made cables, right?' | 21:23 |
nkinkade | Well, we do have a spool of CAT5 cable, cable ends and pliers ... so .... | 21:24 |
nkinkade | :-) | 21:24 |
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nkinkade | If there aren't any ready-to-go cables, then making them is a possibility. | 21:24 |
* greg-g hasn't made his own cable since his high school computer class | 21:25 | |
nkinkade | Orange w/white, Orange, Green w/white, Blue, Blue w/white, Green, Brown w/white, Brown. | 21:32 |
nkinkade | :-) | 21:32 |
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mralex | nkinkade: do you recall which channel the wifi router is using? | 21:32 |
nkinkade | mralex: Not sure, but I can find out. | 21:33 |
nkinkade | But shouldn't you be able to tell by looking at your wifi props? | 21:33 |
nkinkade | ... on your local machine? | 21:33 |
nathany | mine shows 2.432 GHz | 21:34 |
nathany | looks like channel 6 | 21:34 |
nkinkade | mralex: Chaneel 5 | 21:34 |
greg-g | huh | 21:34 |
nathany | sorry, 5 is correct | 21:34 |
nkinkade | At least /etc/config/wireless on the router says 5. | 21:34 |
mralex | how averageā¦ :P | 21:35 |
mralex | time capsule is on 11 for 2.4ghz, and 161 for 5ghz | 21:35 |
nathany | nice ellipsis, mralex ;) | 21:35 |
mralex | ;) | 21:35 |
mralex | howdy from 802.11n :) | 21:40 |
mralex | nathany: the TC asked if I wanted to set it to bridge mode during configuration, which was nice. | 21:46 |
nathany | mralex, awesome | 21:47 |
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akozak | so in java, lets say you define a class that includes function(weight). create an object of that class, and then do something like object.function(blah), what you're doing is calling that function within that specific instance/object of the class with parameter blah? | 21:59 |
akozak | when you create* | 21:59 |
akozak | i don't know why i did function(weight). just say function(x) | 21:59 |
akozak | hmm, nevermind i think i got it | 22:00 |
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JED3 | akozak: as long as the method isn't declared as static, then it may only be executed from an instance of the class | 22:03 |
akozak | not sure what a method is. what should i have called a method? | 22:04 |
nathany | akozak, there is no such thing as a function in Java; executable calls into classes/instances are called methods | 22:06 |
akozak | ohhh | 22:07 |
akozak | that makes sense. | 22:07 |
akozak | JED3, my question was more about syntax. objectname.method1(x) for example, executes method1 in object "objectname" with parameter x? | 22:09 |
nathany | akozak, yes | 22:11 |
akozak | excellent. i'm learning... | 22:11 |
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nathany | nkinkade, paroneayea, JED3, any of you remember how you set up a directory in linux so that files created under it have the same permissions? | 23:00 |
nathany | or am i dreaming that such a thing exists? | 23:01 |
nkinkade | nathany: I don't think that exists. | 23:01 |
nkinkade | umask at the user level, but I don't know anything about at the directory level. | 23:01 |
nathany | darn | 23:01 |
nkinkade | I may be wrong. | 23:01 |
JED3 | you can't use a umask for that? | 23:03 |
JED3 | ahh, should have read your comment first nkinkade :) | 23:03 |
nathany | JED3, wikipedia made it sound like umask was just for the current process | 23:03 |
nathany | i'll check the man page | 23:03 |
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nkinkade | nathany: It may be possible for your script to set some particular umask for the user running the script before the scripts creates the file??? | 23:04 |
nkinkade | I'm not 100% sure that's possible, but it's what occurs to me. | 23:05 |
nathany | nkinkade, i don't have a script, i just wanted to make this egg dir always make files group writable when they were created | 23:05 |
nkinkade | Hmm. I guess you could change the default umask for whichever user will be creating those files ... or will that vary? | 23:06 |
nkinkade | It's not likely to have any security implications on our systems. | 23:06 |
paroneayea | yeah I don't think I've ever tried to customize that behavior | 23:07 |
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ea4xgr | greg-g: you had nice classes in high school then :) | 23:24 |
greg-g | ea4xgr: :) | 23:31 |
ea4xgr | monaco.git: http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3615/nyavykmxicapxd9uo9urvmy.png | 23:32 |
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nathany | ea4xgr, cool | 23:46 |
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