| nathany | JED3, can I change my mind on the API docs? can you add a section that outlines the valid work-info fields for CC0? | 00:03 |
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| nathany | probably under "Providing Work Information" | 00:03 |
| nathany | we can add the valid fields for "standard" later | 00:03 |
| JED3 | nathany, sure | 00:04 |
| nathany | thanks | 00:04 |
| JED3 | how much longer will you be in the officE? | 00:05 |
| nathany | 30-40 min? | 00:05 |
| JED3 | okay that'll do | 00:06 |
| paroneayea | RewriteRule ^/legalcode /index.php?p=9999999999&roflcopter [L] | 00:07 |
| nathany | paroneayea, ask nkinkade about the roflcopter :) | 00:07 |
| mralex | heh | 00:08 |
| paroneayea | :) | 00:08 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: See a5:/var/www/creativecommons.org/www/wp-content/plugins/cc_permalink_mapper.php:39 | 00:10 |
| nkinkade | Clearly there is something, umm, "non-standard" going on there. :-) | 00:11 |
| paroneayea | :) | 00:11 |
| JED3 | nathany, should the valid work-info fields for CC0 use the same names as the engine does? | 00:13 |
| JED3 | http://dpaste.com/163888/ what i am currently doing | 00:14 |
| JED3 | should "actor_href" "work_title" and "name" be explicit instead? | 00:14 |
| nathany | JED3, unless I misunderstand the part that people would actually supply is "title", "work-url", and "creator", right? | 00:15 |
| nathany | (and that's what we're interested in documenting) | 00:15 |
| nathany | or am i misunderstanding the question? | 00:15 |
| JED3 | no you are, but what i am asking is should we still be looking for those strings in the work-info even though CC0 uses a slightly different naming scheme internally | 00:16 |
| nathany | those are the roughly equivalent strings used by the "standard" work info, right? | 00:17 |
| JED3 | yes | 00:17 |
| nathany | then i think consistency between the classes is useful in this case | 00:17 |
| JED3 | okay, agreed, just wanted to verify | 00:18 |
| JED3 | wasn't sure if people would get hung up on the "creator" vs. "actor" for CC0 | 00:18 |
| paroneayea | creativecommons.conf is making me realize just how little I grok mod_rewrite | 00:20 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, will you make me an Ascii slice of bread? toasted would be great | 00:24 |
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| mralex | grilled cheese? | 00:24 |
| paroneayea | ____ ___ | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | (( ' ) | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | || | | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | || | | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | ||______| | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | oops, forgot to toast it | 00:27 |
| JED3 | haha, beats the hell out of mine | 00:27 |
| mralex | hmm | 00:27 |
| JED3 | _--_ _--_ | 00:27 |
| JED3 | .* *.* *. | 00:27 |
| JED3 | ( ) | 00:27 |
| JED3 | | | | 00:27 |
| JED3 | | | | 00:27 |
| JED3 | | | | 00:27 |
| JED3 | | | | 00:27 |
| JED3 | |_____________| | 00:27 |
| JED3 | 00:27 | |
| mralex | that really doesn't look right in helvetica. | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | ____ ___ | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | (( #..'..#) | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | ||.#..#'| | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | ||#.'##.| | 00:27 |
| paroneayea | ||_'.#'_| | 00:28 |
| JED3 | haha, nor does it in fixed width! | 00:28 |
| paroneayea | toasted | 00:28 |
| mralex | oh dear. | 00:28 |
| paroneayea | hm not bad JED3 | 00:28 |
| paroneayea | now with more happy | 00:29 |
| paroneayea | ____ ___ | 00:29 |
| paroneayea | (( ' ) | 00:29 |
| paroneayea | || o__O | | 00:29 |
| paroneayea | || \__/ | | 00:29 |
| paroneayea | ||______| | 00:29 |
| akozak | my home connection is so damn spotty | 00:30 |
| akozak | ugghh | 00:31 |
| mralex | maybe it needs more toast | 00:31 |
| akozak | definitely | 00:31 |
| akozak | some whole wheat toast | 00:31 |
| paroneayea | INTERNET TOASTER | 00:36 |
| paroneayea | .-------- | 00:36 |
| paroneayea | / // // / | FOR ALL YOUR | 00:36 |
| paroneayea | / // // / | INTERNET TOASTING NEEDS | 00:36 |
| paroneayea | /_______/ | ____ ___ | 00:36 |
| paroneayea | | | ' (( ' ) | 00:36 |
| paroneayea | | __ | / || o__O | | 00:36 |
| paroneayea | | || | / || \__/ | | 00:36 |
| paroneayea | | || | / ||______| | 00:36 |
| paroneayea | '______|/ | 00:37 |
| mralex | that looks like a cranky old man in a trucker hat, in my client! | 00:37 |
| paroneayea | you need to stop using such a terrible client | 00:37 |
| paroneayea | ╔══════════════════════════════╗ | 00:37 |
| paroneayea | ║ DIALOG BOX ☒ ║ | 00:37 |
| mralex | (that could be a slight reference to Powdered Toast Man, but not really) | 00:37 |
| paroneayea | ╟──────────────────────────────╢ | 00:37 |
| paroneayea | ║ ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT ║ | 00:37 |
| paroneayea | ║ TO REFORMAT YOUR COMPUTER? ║ | 00:37 |
| paroneayea | ║ ┏━━━━━━┓ ┏━━━━━━━━━━┓ ║ | 00:37 |
| paroneayea | ║ ┃ OK ✓ ┃ ┃ CANCEL ✗ ┃ ║ | 00:38 |
| paroneayea | ║ ┗━━━━━━┛ ┗━━━━━━━━━━┛ ║ | 00:38 |
| paroneayea | ╚══════════════════════════════╝ | 00:38 |
| paroneayea | ╔══════════════════════════════╗ | 00:40 |
| paroneayea | ║ INTERNET TOAST 2000 ☒ ║ | 00:40 |
| paroneayea | ╟──────────────────────────────╢ | 00:40 |
| paroneayea | ║ DO YOU WANT TOAST? ║ | 00:40 |
| paroneayea | ║ ┏━━━━━━━┓ ┏━━━━━━━━━━━━┓ ║ | 00:41 |
| paroneayea | ║ ┃ YES ✓ ┃ ┃ ALSO YES ✓ ┃ ║ | 00:41 |
| paroneayea | ║ ┗━━━━━━━┛ ┗━━━━━━━━━━━━┛ ║ | 00:41 |
| paroneayea | ╚══════════════════════════════╝ | 00:41 |
| akozak | haha | 00:43 |
| paroneayea | hey nathany... where should I configure the cached deeds be writing to? | 00:44 |
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| paroneayea | I guess I should not be writing them to the documentroot | 00:44 |
| paroneayea | since that is under svn | 00:44 |
| paroneayea | oh. | 00:44 |
| paroneayea | well okay in that case I am just going to wait till tomorrow to finish solving this. | 00:44 |
| paroneayea | in the meanwhile have a turtle everyone | 00:45 |
| paroneayea | ,/-\, | 00:45 |
| paroneayea | / o_|| | 00:45 |
| paroneayea | | ., '_.----, | 00:45 |
| paroneayea | \// /// \,/ \\ | 00:45 |
| paroneayea | \||/\,/ \.//. | 00:45 |
| paroneayea | \\./_\_/_// | 00:46 |
| paroneayea | /_'-------L\ | 00:46 |
| akozak | leave it to the designer to run irc with helvetica as the main font :) | 00:55 |
| akozak | mralex, btw I just watched the helvetica documentary this weekend | 00:56 |
| mralex | a fine choice ;) | 00:57 |
| akozak | now I can't stop noticing it everywhere | 00:57 |
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| JED3 | mralex, akozak have you seen Objectified? | 01:18 |
| mralex | yup | 01:20 |
| JED3 | good? | 01:20 |
| mralex | yeah | 01:20 |
| mralex | i enjoyed it | 01:20 |
| JED3 | as compared to helvetica? | 01:20 |
| mralex | similar style | 01:21 |
| mralex | i'd recommend it :) | 01:21 |
| JED3 | cool, waiting for it to stream on netflix | 01:21 |
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| akozak | haven't seen it yet... read so-so reviews but it looked interesting | 01:22 |
| JED3 | a must see: http://vimeo.com/5243984 | 01:24 |
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| paroneayea | morning everyone | 16:42 |
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| tvol | good morning paroneayea | 17:14 |
| paroneayea | moring tvol, how goes it? | 17:16 |
| tvol | i'm hypercaffeinating, paroneayea. you? | 17:17 |
| paroneayea | I'm caffeinating, but probably not hyper | 17:18 |
| paroneayea | earl grey with agave and soymilk | 17:18 |
| tvol | mmm | 17:18 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Did you all use a polycom in the conf room in an effort to reduce the outbound VoIP load and/or load on the Asterisk box? | 18:36 |
| nathany | we all used a polycom because we're supposed to be face to face in the office for the call; i don't think we considered any alternative | 18:37 |
| nkinkade | Ah, I didn't know that part of the change to bi-weekly calls was that all SF staff should be in the same room. | 18:38 |
| nathany | yeah, supposed to help people be more engaged in the call | 18:38 |
| nkinkade | In any case, the audio quality of the call seemed pretty good to me. | 18:38 |
| mralex | also the mic we use for group voip can be a pain in the arse to get working | 18:38 |
| nkinkade | ... and I didn't personally notice any delay. | 18:38 |
| mralex | polycom = more convenient | 18:38 |
| nkinkade | The polycom mic seemed to work just fine. I didn't have a problem hearing anyone. | 18:39 |
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| akozak | nkinkade, I have a request for 2 more extensions on the CC wiki: Maps and Semantic Maps. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps | 19:09 |
| akozak | #geocode is broken atm and each ODEPO page throws up an error | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Send me an email. | 19:09 |
| akozak | nkinkade, sure thing | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | I'll install them today. | 19:10 |
| akozak | awesome, thanks | 19:11 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: I've got a quick PHP question for you. | 21:16 |
| mralex | nkinkade: yep? | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | I'm bouncing users back to /donate for less than $5, but when I URL encode the error message I get strange encoding: | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | error=Donations+must+be+at+least+%25245. | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | It doesn't do that on zupport. | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | What is that extra 25 between the % and 24?? | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | Any idea? | 21:17 |
| mralex | what's the encoding expected for "$"? | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | %24 | 21:18 |
| nkinkade | Strangely, if I don't urlencode() at all I get | 21:18 |
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| nkinkade | error=Donations%2520must%2520be%2520at%2520least%2520$5. | 21:18 |
| nkinkade | I'm stumped. | 21:18 |
| mralex | weird | 21:18 |
| nkinkade | Like I say, zupport doesn't do this. | 21:19 |
| mralex | i don't know | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | zupport works as expected. | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | Ugh. | 21:19 |
| nkinkade | "%2520 is a space character that has been encoded twice" | 21:20 |
| mralex | hm, %25 is the encoding for "%"… like it's getting encoded twice | 21:20 |
| nkinkade | http://forums.isaserver.org/m_2002079836/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2002079899 | 21:20 |
| nkinkade | I wonder why it's doing that on support but not zupport. | 21:21 |
| mralex | is the string that comes out of urlencode the one wiht the double encoding, or is that what you see in the location bar? | 21:22 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: It's hard to tell so far, because I can't echo anything on the live site. I guess I could write the output to a file and look. | 21:24 |
| mralex | nkinkade: so apache could be encoding the encoded url, for some reason? | 21:24 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I guess so. But it's not consistent because if I do no URL encoding at all then it passes the $ along with no encoding and double encodes the spaces! | 21:25 |
| nkinkade | If I urlencode() then it does the spaces correctly, but screws up the $. | 21:25 |
| nkinkade | Weird. | 21:26 |
| nkinkade | And zupport and support are on the same machine. | 21:26 |
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| nkinkade | I looked at the Apache configs and also the CiviCRM configs and can't see where they differ that this should happen. | 21:26 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. Before urlencode() it looks like "Donations must be at least $5", after it looks like "Donations+must+be+at+least+%245" | 21:29 |
| nkinkade | Both are correct. It seems to be happening somewhere between header() and the browser. | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | nathany: JED3: paroneayea: Are we thinking to meet today? | 21:30 |
| nathany | nkinkade, yes | 21:30 |
| nathany | sorry | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | Right now? | 21:31 |
| nkinkade | conf line #8? | 21:31 |
| nkinkade | I'm in not rush ... just notify me when everyone is ready. | 21:31 |
| JED3 | y | 21:31 |
| nathany | yes, dialing now | 21:31 |
| nathany | paroneayea, room 8 | 21:31 |
| paroneayea | kk | 21:31 |
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| paroneayea | nkinkade: so just to double check that I understand things... apache is serving on 8080, so that's "default" in varnish... anything that doesn't hit something special in vcl_recv will thus go to default/8080/apache. Correct? | 22:01 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: That sounds right. | 22:01 |
| paroneayea | great :) | 22:02 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: These urlencoding problems seem to have to do with HTTPS. | 22:43 |
| nkinkade | I have also noticed in the past that I cannot upgrade Drupal via HTTPS. | 22:43 |
| mralex | interesting | 22:44 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: I found the problem: me. | 22:55 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade, nathany: I sent you guys an email detailing what I am hoping to achieve with the mod_rewrite, but I am still lost. I spelled it out pretty clearly though, I hope | 22:55 |
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| paroneayea | I'm not sure if I need to break all those conditions into separate blocks or not | 22:55 |
| nkinkade | I was doing header("Location: http:// ...") | 22:55 |
| nkinkade | Which was hitting an apache rewrite rule that redirects all http requests to https. I think I wasted about an hour on that. :-( | 22:56 |
| mralex | nkinkade: oops! | 22:56 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, you want to term those python conditionals into rewrite rules? | 22:56 |
| paroneayea | JED3: well, that is how it would have to work | 22:56 |
| paroneayea | it's made complicated by this: | 22:58 |
| akozak | pretty cool: http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2010/02/linked-data-visualisation-launched-at-prime-ministers-conference.php | 22:59 |
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| paroneayea | http://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/ -> http://staging.creativecommons.org/cc.engine-cache/licenses/__index.html | 23:00 |
| paroneayea | unfortunately it has to add __index.html and etc to any url it's caching that ends in a slash | 23:00 |
| paroneayea | something that doesn't it can just end with that same filename, eg deed.es | 23:01 |
| JED3 | quick and dumb question that shows i'm very late to the party or perhaps just forgetful: but why are using a disk cache again? | 23:01 |
| JED3 | are we* | 23:02 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, why does it need to be __index.html? and not index.html? | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | JED3: it doesn't have to be | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | that's just how it's configured atm | 23:04 |
| paroneayea | you can set it to monkeys.html if you want in the paste config file | 23:04 |
| paroneayea | it's just that __index.html is unlikely to ever be a real file, so that's why it's the default | 23:04 |
| paroneayea | as for why, I think the reasoning is that apache serving static files directly would be fast without us having to muck with something fancier like memcached | 23:05 |
| nathany | JED3, disk cache because rendering is currently expensive, and it's high traffic | 23:05 |
| nathany | paroneayea, probably don't need to rewrite that to include __index.html, just set the default document for that directory appropriately | 23:05 |
| paroneayea | ah | 23:06 |
| JED3 | oh okay, was wondering if you were trying to avoid a DirectoryIndex issue with apache | 23:06 |
| nathany | i'm still not wild about the __index.html stuff... | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | well we can set it to anything. | 23:06 |
| nathany | right, directoryindex (forget that) | 23:06 |
| paroneayea | is there something you'd prefer? | 23:06 |
| nathany | i'm sorry, i need to focus on a couple other things yet this afternoon; i'll have to look @ your email later and reply | 23:07 |
| nathany | let me take a look and i think we can simplify | 23:08 |
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| akozak | hahaha http://www.staringispolite.com/likepython/ | 23:15 |
| akozak | yo just print like "hello world" bro | 23:15 |
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