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| JED3 | paroneayea, you around? | 00:34 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: am now | 00:55 |
| paroneayea | sitting in the airport, waiting for the flight back to chitown | 00:56 |
| JED3 | hey, do you know how to tell setuptools to *not* use a pypi egg? | 00:56 |
| paroneayea | heh | 00:56 |
| paroneayea | hm | 00:57 |
| JED3 | trying to buildout a project using the cc.license eggs you have on a9, but setuptools grabs a cc.license egg off of pypi | 00:57 |
| paroneayea | oh | 00:57 |
| paroneayea | look at the buildout conf in cc.engine | 00:57 |
| JED3 | yeah, i have the same approach | 00:58 |
| JED3 | ...using find-links | 00:58 |
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| Z1r0n | Hi friends | 12:32 |
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| akozak | nkinkade, do you have an eta on arrayextension for the cc wiki? | 18:03 |
| nkinkade | akozak: No, but I can try to get to it today. | 18:04 |
| akozak | not urgent, it's just that my data is broken :P | 18:04 |
| akozak | ok cool thanks | 18:04 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, ping | 18:11 |
| JED3 | i'm still trying to figure out a sane solution to the problem i detailed yesterday, have any ideas? | 18:12 |
| paroneayea | JED3: pong | 18:20 |
| paroneayea | wait, let me recap | 18:20 |
| paroneayea | ah right | 18:20 |
| paroneayea | do you have a commit somewhere where I can pull your current setup? | 18:20 |
| JED3 | uhm, sure, not so much a commit but i have a deployment staged | 18:21 |
| JED3 | a8 : /var/www/api.creativecommons.org/api-dev-old/ | 18:21 |
| paroneayea | JED3: well you have possibly two problems in buildout.cfg I think | 18:23 |
| paroneayea | you have two entries for find links | 18:23 |
| paroneayea | and neither is my eggs directory | 18:23 |
| paroneayea | which is where cc.license is kept | 18:23 |
| JED3 | AGHH | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | http://a9.creativecommons.org/~cwebber/eggs/ | 18:24 |
| JED3 | that was it | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | :) | 18:24 |
| JED3 | haha i have no idea how i kept overlooking that | 18:24 |
| paroneayea | sometimes it is impossible to notice one's own obvious errors, one has to find someone else to look at them | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | notice how I used "one" instead of "you", like I was writing some shitty academic paper | 18:25 |
| JED3 | haha | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | JED3: is nathan in the office? I don't see him on IRC or XMPP | 18:25 |
| paroneayea | oh | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | shoulda checked stausnet | 18:26 |
| JED3 | no, he's still in ATL i think, he sent out a dent or email earlier | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 18:26 |
| paroneayea | okay. He said he was going to give me permission to update wsgi_cache on pypi, so I'll just send him an email about it | 18:26 |
| JED3 | ahh okay, i'm sending a related pypi inquiry to you two as well | 18:27 |
| JED3 | actually i'll just hold off on it for right now | 18:27 |
| JED3 | so after my troubles of compiling py2.6 on debian lenny I realized that there is a multiprocessing backport for 2.5 | 18:29 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Is api-dev back up? If not, will you let me know when it is so that I can re-enable notifications in Nagios for it? | 18:37 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, yes it is, but i was actually going to tell you to disregard any alarms i set off today | 18:38 |
| JED3 | so maybe its best the notifications aren't re-enabled just yet | 18:39 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Cool ... just let me know when it's safe for me to re-enable notifications. | 18:39 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, will do, thanks | 18:39 |
| paroneayea | that kind of reminds me | 18:56 |
| paroneayea | one of the interesting features they have in unittest2 is apparently an @expected_failure decorator | 18:56 |
| paroneayea | kind of an interesting idea, since sometimes I write tests for features I don't have yet but expect to have happen in the future | 18:58 |
| paroneayea | that's pretty rare though ;) | 18:58 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade, ping | 19:38 |
| nkinkade | JED3: ? | 19:38 |
| JED3 | hi are you familiar with the processes used to serve the rest api? | 19:38 |
| nkinkade | JED3: At what level? | 19:41 |
| nkinkade | I don't know anything about the code that runs the API. | 19:41 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Bah! tangential to the above, I just bought an SSL cert for i.creativecommons.org, but forgot that we have an SSL version of api.CC.org already running on the default IP address for that machine. | 19:52 |
| nkinkade | I guess I'm going to have to try to cancel the order/cert. and get it reissued under something like i-secure.creativecommons.org. | 19:53 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, can't we just get another IP for a8 and have the cert resassigned to the new address? | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | JED3: We already have another IP address for a8. | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | The problem is that i.CC.org is at the same IP address as api.CC.org as well as the SSL version of api.CC.org. | 19:55 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, can we update the dns entry of i.cc.org to a different address? | 19:57 |
| nkinkade | JED3: That's probably a better idea. | 19:57 |
| JED3 | and have the cert reassigned? | 19:57 |
| JED3 | since it hasn't fully gone through yet, that may be a feasible option | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | JED3: The cert won't need to be redone in this case. | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | The only problem was that i.CC.org has the same IP as api.CC.org. As long as all requests to i.CC.org come in to the new IP address, then the SSL vhost for i.CC.org will pick it up. | 20:00 |
| nkinkade | Thanks for that suggestion ... I feel pretty bad that I somehow missed that ultra simple solution. :-( ... but glad that I mentioned here so that you could propose it. | 20:00 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, ahh, i thought a certificate was tied to an ip, but i guess it only protects at a higher layer | 20:01 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Right, it's just tied to a domain name. | 20:01 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, /usr/bin/python2.5 ./bin/zdaemon -S /var/www/api.creativecommons.org/api-dev/eggs/zdaemon-2.0.4-py2.5.egg/zdaemon/schema.xml -C api_zd.conf ./bin/server | 20:03 |
| JED3 | i need to restart this process on a8 but cannot figure out how to | 20:03 |
| JED3 | i considered killing it and creating a new one, but am afraid that I won't be able to start one back up | 20:04 |
| JED3 | its running as nathan | 20:04 |
| nkinkade | JED3: a8 $ cat /etc/rc.local | 20:05 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, yeah I see how their stopped but I can't get the api-dev instance to stpo | 20:09 |
| JED3 | stop* | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | JED3: They are started via the commands in /etc/rc.local | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | presumably you should be able to replace "start" with "stop" | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | Is that not working? | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | If it's not, then try just killing the proc manually. | 20:10 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, no its not working, but just for the dev instance | 20:10 |
| JED3 | the api zdaemon was started via the rc.local but there is another running to serve the dev instance and it was started by nathan | 20:10 |
| JED3 | and if you su nathan and try to gracefully stop it, it says that there isn't a zdaemon running | 20:11 |
| JED3 | i'll just kill and run another as root | 20:12 |
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| * paulproteus blinks innocently. | 20:45 | |
| greg-g | did CC hire a local SFer for the DiscoverEd thing? | 20:45 |
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| greg-g | or, better question: what is the status of the DiscoverEd hiring? | 20:46 |
| greg-g | of course, don't answer in the channel if that isn't smart ;) | 20:48 |
| * greg-g wanders around looking at the floor, whistling a tune, pretending he didn't ask anything | 20:49 | |
| akozak | haha | 20:50 |
| akozak | greg-g, i won't comment just because it's all speculation on my part | 20:51 |
| greg-g | akozak: gotcha | 20:51 |
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| nathany | nkinkade, thanks for the quick turn around on SSL for idot | 21:27 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Of course. Evan was right ... it was definitely something we should have had running. | 21:28 |
| nathany | yup | 21:28 |
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| akozak | mralex, http://www.cagintranet.com/archive/the-definitive-guide-on-wordpress-syntax-highligher-plugins/ | 21:51 |
| akozak | or did you mean the post/page editor | 21:51 |
| mralex | post editor | 21:52 |
| akozak | ah | 21:52 |
| mralex | i expect there's an admin plugin | 21:52 |
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| mralex | http://www.techlyzer.com/wp-advanced-code-editor/ | 22:05 |
| akozak | oooh | 22:06 |
| mralex | (http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-advanced-code-editor/) | 22:06 |
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| JED3 | http://api.creativecommons.org/rest/dev/license/zero/get? yayyy | 22:43 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade, you can re-enable alerts for api now | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Thanks. | 23:21 |
| JED3 | thank you | 23:21 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea, i want to dive back into org-mode, do you know of a good "this is how i do it" tutorial? maybe a good GTD approach? | 23:33 |
| paroneayea | JED3: hard for me to say since my uptake of it was somewhat organic, denying that it would take over my life until it did | 23:38 |
| paroneayea | http://orgmode.org/GoogleTech.html | 23:39 |
| paroneayea | you've seen this I assume? | 23:39 |
| paroneayea | that's a really useful talk to watch | 23:39 |
| paroneayea | I think the key points of using orgmode are: | 23:39 |
| paroneayea | - For all your projects that aren't too specific, just keep a general orgmode file (mine is called life.org, many people call theirs gtd.org) | 23:40 |
| paroneayea | - Be sure to schedule things so that you don't forget about them | 23:40 |
| paroneayea | - Just start making todo items for broad tasks and break down further into "trees" of tasks as you go | 23:40 |
| paroneayea | - Using the agenda is key | 23:41 |
| paroneayea | - Archiving is also key | 23:41 |
| paroneayea | also, archiving as in terms of archive trees are much much better than archive files imo, as you don't lose the context of where old tasks that you don't want to look at any more were | 23:41 |
| paroneayea | honestly my uptake started with just taking notes using it as an outline mode, then I started turning some sections into todo items, then I started using the agenda, and then it gradually took over the rest of my life. | 23:42 |
| paroneayea | - oh, and also keep your orgmode files under git so you can sync them between computers | 23:43 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, thanks i'm committing these hints to record | 23:46 |
| JED3 | do you manually vc your files? | 23:46 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 23:46 |
| paroneayea | usually I'm just lazy and add a bunch of files and commit with "stuff I did on grumps/livian/xyz-computer" | 23:47 |
| paroneayea | and then merge in changes on other computers and fix conflicts | 23:47 |
| paroneayea | usually I don't hit conflicts, though in the cases I have | 23:47 |
| paroneayea | important to realize that you should switch to fundamental-mode so that some of the diff hunks aren't hidden by folden trees | 23:47 |
| paroneayea | otherwise you may commit some <<<<<<< and ======== and >>>>>>>> | 23:48 |
| JED3 | okay, and what does remember-mode add to editting org files? | 23:50 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, ^^ | 23:50 |
| paroneayea | oh man remember-mode is the best | 23:51 |
| paroneayea | well, it is if you use it with remember templates (orgmode's modifications of that) | 23:51 |
| paroneayea | so with that you can just from anywhere remember, "Oh shit, I need to take out the trash", and hit the keystroke to remember templates | 23:52 |
| paroneayea | and select a todo item or something | 23:52 |
| paroneayea | or schedule | 23:52 |
| paroneayea | and then fill in the information | 23:52 |
| paroneayea | then hit C-c C-c and it'll file it away | 23:52 |
| paroneayea | if you give it a deadline you won't forget | 23:52 |
| paroneayea | there are some different templates for different kinds of tasks | 23:52 |
| paroneayea | here are my remember templates: | 23:52 |
| paroneayea | http://paste.lisp.org/+21NC | 23:54 |
| paroneayea | I didn't start using remember until after a long time | 23:54 |
| paroneayea | but I wish I had sooner | 23:54 |
| paroneayea | look at the docs for remember templates though, that explains that a lot better | 23:54 |
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| JED3 | awesome, thanks paroneayea, i'm starting a new project today and will be using org-mode to manage my dev time | 23:56 |
| paroneayea | I guess as hinted there, I also use orgmode to track my weight and calories. Which has worked, actually… down ~40 pounds from a year ago, according to the file :P | 23:56 |
| paroneayea | I'm not gonna paste that file though… too embarassing | 23:56 |
| JED3 | :) congrats! haha | 23:57 |
| JED3 | you should start an infomercial | 23:58 |
| paroneayea | I know how you feel, a year ago I was just like you | 23:58 |
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| paroneayea | fat and disorganized and staring at my computer monitor all day | 23:58 |
| akozak | dude. that is awesome | 23:58 |
| paroneayea | today I am slightly less fat and slightly less disorganized | 23:59 |
| paroneayea | but still stare at my computer the same amount too | 23:59 |
| paroneayea | and you can too | 23:59 |
| paroneayea | all for the low low price | 23:59 |
| akozak | hahaha | 23:59 |
| paroneayea | okay I'm gonna stop | 23:59 |
| mralex | this is some freaky EMACS pyramid scheme | 23:59 |
| akozak | ive always secretly wished i was an expert with emacs | 23:59 |
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