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| kreynen | any bay area cc staff interested in participating in this session at DrupalCon http://sf2010.drupal.org/conference/sessions/creative-commons-licensing-done-right | 18:43 |
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| JED3 | kreynen, are you Blaise? | 18:54 |
| kreynen | JED3: no... I'm http://www.openmediafoundation.org/staff | 18:56 |
| kreynen | and http://lessig.org/blog/2005/02/new_code_good_code.html | 18:57 |
| JED3 | kreynen, oh sorry about that, couldn't remember the IRC handle of another person (Blaise) | 18:57 |
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| kreynen | Blaise is going to DrupalCon, we are using the code he updated in the Open Media Project | 18:58 |
| JED3 | kreynen, ahh yes, I was the mentor for that SOC project | 18:58 |
| kreynen | JED3: are you going to DrupalCon? | 19:01 |
| nathany | kreynen, I don't think anyone from CC is planning to be there (contrary to http://sf2010.drupal.org/conference/sessions/creative-commons-licensing-done-right ;) ) | 19:02 |
| JED3 | kreynen, naa, I won't be there | 19:02 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, i retract my earlier statement about relaxng | 19:03 |
| nathany | kreynen, we might be able to have someone there for the talk to help with questions, but it's a busy time for staff | 19:03 |
| kreynen | nathany: sorry about putting you on the spot... that was just really helpful during SXSW with Channel Austin's producers | 19:04 |
| nathany | kreynen, it looks like the schedule won't be finalized until march? | 19:05 |
| kreynen | right... the deadline to submit was yesterday | 19:05 |
| nathany | got it | 19:05 |
| kreynen | now we vote | 19:05 |
| nathany | ah, now i understand | 19:06 |
| nathany | kreynen, i'd be happy to drop by and answer questions, but i'll be traveling during those dates | 19:07 |
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| nathany | feel free to ping us when the schedule is ironed out; it's possible someone will be available, but right now the next couple months are pretty packed for us | 19:08 |
| kreynen | we are working with the Bay Area Video Collation on SF Access... that is going to be the first large site using the new CC module that I know of | 19:08 |
| nathany | cool | 19:08 |
| kreynen | Part of that project includes moving all shows to Archive.org, so we could go that route | 19:09 |
| kreynen | looking for a "licensing expert" | 19:10 |
| nathany | kreynen, you're looking for a licensing expert for the talk? | 19:10 |
| kreynen | right... I we understand moving the 1s and 0s around, but always get questions about the licensees themselves that I don't feel comfortable answering | 19:12 |
| nathany | kreynen, yeah, i can appreciate that... unfortunately we're pretty constrained with staff time | 19:14 |
| kreynen | Eric Steuer met with Channel Austin's community producers during SXSW and really helped turn them form anti-CC to pro-CC. | 19:14 |
| nathany | kreynen, you might email him; i'm not sure what his schedule is like for april | 19:15 |
| nathany | he's eric@creativecommons.org | 19:15 |
| kreynen | I will try that... if no one is available, we'll figure something out | 19:18 |
| luisv | hrm, I thought drupal's board had a lawyer on it | 19:28 |
| luisv | but I don't see one | 19:28 |
| paroneayea | luisv: are you coming to the salon? | 19:33 |
| luisv | paroneayea: yes! | 19:33 |
| paroneayea | :D | 19:33 |
| * luisv is pleased to finally make it | 19:34 | |
| paroneayea | I am in town, and will be there | 19:34 |
| paroneayea | so, great | 19:34 |
| luisv | great | 19:34 |
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| paroneayea | .-------. | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | .'_.-----._'. | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | / / __ __ \ \ ____ _ _ ___ _ _ ____ _____ | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | . . /.-\ /.-\ . . / ___| / \ | | / _ \| \ | | / ___|| ___| | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | | | || || | | \___ \ / _ \ | | | | | | \| | \___ \| |_ | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | ' ' \'-/ \'-/ ' ' ___) / ___ \| |__| |_| | |\ | ___) | _| | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | \ \_`' `'_/ / |____/_/ \_\_____\___/|_| \_| |____/|_| | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | '._'-----'_.' | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | '-----' | 19:58 |
| greg-g | nice | 19:59 |
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| luisv | that took waaay too much time to make, I'm guessing ;) | 20:13 |
| paroneayea | nope | 20:14 |
| paroneayea | copy / paste old CC logo ascii art | 20:14 |
| paroneayea | then paste in "$ figlet SALON SF" | 20:14 |
| paroneayea | figlet ftw | 20:14 |
| mralex | there's cc logo ascii art? | 20:15 |
| paroneayea | also emacs rectangle copy-paste means I didn't even need to take any effort repositioning the line | 20:15 |
| paroneayea | mralex: yes, right there, that I made a while ago | 20:15 |
| mralex | ah, the way you said it implied it was vintage | 20:15 |
| paroneayea | well I made it a while ago | 20:15 |
| akozak | heh | 20:16 |
| mralex | ah, in internet years :D | 20:17 |
| paroneayea | mralex: yes :) | 20:57 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, http://librdf.org/docs/pydoc/RDF.html#Storage | 21:09 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: cool, thanks | 21:21 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: "wsgi_cache is a piece of WSGI middleware that provides disk caching for WSGI applications. It is somewhat coarse and rather inflexible, sort of like your grandpa." <- less crass than I remembered it in our mini-meeting :) | 21:28 |
| nathany | lol | 21:28 |
| akozak | haha | 21:30 |
| paroneayea | nathany: IOError: [Errno 21] Is a directory: '/home/cwebber/devel/cc.engine-git/cache/licenses/' | 21:44 |
| paroneayea | interesting bug | 21:44 |
| paroneayea | if you visit /licenses/ for example that happens | 21:44 |
| paroneayea | ie, something where it ends with a slash | 21:44 |
| paroneayea | so /licenses or /licenses/foo would work, /licenses/ does not | 21:44 |
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| JED3 | :q | 22:00 |
| JED3 | this window is clearly not Vim, disregard that last message | 22:01 |
| nathany | LOL | 22:01 |
| nathany | confusing VIM and Emacs, JED3? | 22:01 |
| JED3 | haha, had vim on a7 open, but not the right window selected | 22:02 |
| JED3 | nathany, i'm afraid to ask this but... | 22:03 |
| nathany | LOL | 22:03 |
| nathany | sure | 22:03 |
| JED3 | i'm not seeing any work-info test validation in the rest api, am I missing something? | 22:03 |
| nathany | JED3, you mean the tests don't cover the work-info? | 22:04 |
| nathany | it's possible that didn't get written; you're looking @ the nose-test-suite-branch, right? | 22:04 |
| JED3 | yes, and yes | 22:04 |
| nathany | JED3, i hate to answer this, but... ;) | 22:04 |
| paroneayea | JED3: I thought you were just looking for the lip-smacking-tasty emoticon :d | 22:04 |
| nathany | it probably didn't get covered when we were hacking on those | 22:04 |
| JED3 | NooOOOooo | 22:04 |
| nathany | :) | 22:05 |
| paroneayea | :d | 22:05 |
| JED3 | agh alright, this is will definitely delay CC0's roll out then :/ | 22:05 |
| paroneayea | nathany and jed3 are talking about useful things, I am talking about emoticons | 22:05 |
| paroneayea | which I got backwards even | 22:06 |
| paroneayea | :q | 22:06 |
| JED3 | the work-info test cases will need to be there anyway for the base of the next rest api | 22:06 |
| nathany | JED3, because we don't have a test for it, or because it's fundamentally broken at some point? | 22:06 |
| nathany | JED3, yes | 22:06 |
| nathany | also, it's not entirely clear to me how those tests should operate at the moment... since the possible values differs based on license class | 22:07 |
| nathany | thoughts? | 22:07 |
| JED3 | ...looking up the params in the docs | 22:07 |
| nathany | JED3, i suspect the best place for those params is in the cc.license formatters | 22:08 |
| nathany | er, s/params/tests/ | 22:08 |
| nathany | I think I'm OK just pushing the current work to the development instance and shifting our focus to the new, cc.license backed implementatino | 22:09 |
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| JED3 | was there a tech mtg today? | 22:20 |
| JED3 | is/was | 22:20 |
| akozak | mralex, could you make me an admin on the CC wiki so that I can import ODEPO from OpenEd? | 22:21 |
| nathany | JED3, hypothetically... i think we were thinking we'd meet when nkinkade arrives | 22:21 |
| nathany | and i have a mgmt mtg at some point, too | 22:21 |
| mralex | akozak: probably, one sec | 22:21 |
| nathany | so... a little disjointed, sorry | 22:21 |
| JED3 | nathany, thats okay, i didn't know kinkade was arriving this afternoon | 22:22 |
| nathany | yup | 22:22 |
| akozak | nathany, I think this whole ODEPO move could be done with Special:Export and Special:Import. Was there a reason for using a script the last time it had to be moved? | 22:22 |
| mralex | akozak: what's your wiki user name? | 22:22 |
| akozak | mralex, akozak | 22:22 |
| nathany | akozak, i was just getting ready to reply to your message | 22:22 |
| akozak | nathany, ah ok cool | 22:22 |
| nathany | it looks like the scripts were used to remove the old pages, and in the event that they had extra content in them, leave those intact | 22:22 |
| mralex | akozak: you're all set | 22:23 |
| akozak | thanks mralex | 22:23 |
| nathany | since we're redirecting opened generally (and the pages are more "clean"), export/import should do it, i think | 22:23 |
| akozak | nathany, ok excellent. | 22:24 |
| nathany | akozak, i won't worry about replying to your email, let me know if other questions come up | 22:25 |
| akozak | nathany, sounds good | 22:25 |
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| akozak | uh oh | 22:27 |
| akozak | i accidentally the whole database | 22:29 |
| akozak | the cc wiki didn't like that import | 22:30 |
| paroneayea | akozak: :O | 22:30 |
| paroneayea | backed up hopefully? | 22:30 |
| paroneayea | or is it not that serious? | 22:31 |
| akozak | nothing permanent, it's just 503ing and hanging a lot | 22:31 |
| paroneayea | ah. | 22:31 |
| akozak | i'm assuming it's working through the 1.5mb xml | 22:31 |
| mralex | akozak: so OpenEd is going away now? | 22:31 |
| akozak | mralex, yes | 22:32 |
| akozak | mralex, well, soon | 22:32 |
| mralex | right | 22:32 |
| akozak | this is really weird. | 22:32 |
| akozak | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:RecentChanges | 22:33 |
| akozak | click on an imported page | 22:33 |
| nathany | akozak, I'm trying to remember what the rewrite rule situation looks like for that... we may have created individual rules when we did the first move | 22:34 |
| nathany | akozak, i'm looking now | 22:34 |
| akozak | It redirects to opened.cc | 22:35 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: one case this won't cover, but I don't think will be a big deal: | 22:38 |
| paroneayea | if someone calls /licenses, then calls /licenses/foo/bar/ | 22:38 |
| paroneayea | it will have made licenses as a file | 22:38 |
| paroneayea | *but* | 22:38 |
| paroneayea | it'll be a non-issue for cc.engine at least | 22:39 |
| paroneayea | because we're redirecting with an append_slash type functionality | 22:39 |
| akozak | also it looks like it only got through ~725 org pages | 22:39 |
| paroneayea | ... maybe I shouldn't have brought up something that is a non-issue :P | 22:39 |
| nathany | paroneayea, right... | 22:39 |
| nathany | akozak, redirects gone | 22:41 |
| nathany | looks like you need to bring over the templates/forms/etc as well | 22:41 |
| akozak | nathany, yea, that's no problem | 22:41 |
| akozak | nathany, thanks. I'm thinking I should modify the xml to remove the pages already imported and then re-import? | 22:42 |
| akozak | to get the last 400 or so | 22:42 |
| nathany | akozak, assuming it did them sequentially, that should be straightforward, right? | 22:42 |
| akozak | nathany, I hope so | 22:43 |
| akozak | I'm pretty sure it did do them sequentially | 22:43 |
| JED3 | ughhhhh | 22:46 |
| greg-g | plaintext versions of CC legalcode, any ideas where we might have copies? | 22:48 |
| JED3 | greg-g, append "legaltext" to any license uri | 22:48 |
| greg-g | paroneayea: your the defacto ascii guy, thoughts :) | 22:48 |
| JED3 | sorry | 22:48 |
| greg-g | JED3: plaintext :) | 22:48 |
| JED3 | legalcode | 22:48 |
| JED3 | ahh | 22:49 |
| paroneayea | heh, not for that I guess. I know we have "plain" html | 22:49 |
| greg-g | yeah, I was asked by an Ubuntu developer for a COPYING file version of the cc legal code | 22:49 |
| paroneayea | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode-plain | 22:49 |
| greg-g | that is still htnml | 22:50 |
| paroneayea | which is actually the /legalcode page run through lxml and stripped out | 22:50 |
| greg-g | -n | 22:50 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 22:50 |
| paroneayea | maybe run it through w3c or something? :) | 22:50 |
| greg-g | heh | 22:50 |
| paroneayea | er | 22:50 |
| paroneayea | w3m | 22:50 |
| paroneayea | different w3* webternets | 22:50 |
| paroneayea | wow that worked out really nice actually | 22:51 |
| paroneayea | http://dpaste.com/160200/ | 22:51 |
| greg-g | http://grossmeier.net/files/cc-by-3.0-unported.txt | 22:52 |
| greg-g | ooh, yours has line breaks! | 22:52 |
| greg-g | nixternal: http://dpaste.com/160200/ | 22:53 |
| greg-g | erm, wrong channel :) | 22:53 |
| paroneayea | oh, it was for richard johnson? :D | 22:53 |
| paroneayea | haha I love that guy | 22:53 |
| greg-g | nice! | 22:54 |
| paroneayea | he comes to chiglug user groups, gives good talks, and yells commentary from the audience | 22:54 |
| greg-g | yep, good buddy of mine | 22:54 |
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| greg-g | i always forget you are from chicago | 22:54 |
| greg-g | paroneayea: btw, don't believe any stories nixternal has about me, they're all lies | 22:56 |
| paroneayea | :) | 22:56 |
| nathany | greg-g, likely story | 22:56 |
| greg-g | nathany: shhh | 22:56 |
| nathany | LOL | 22:56 |
| greg-g | speaking of which, I have stories for you nathany ;) | 22:57 |
| greg-g | nothing extraordinary, but yeah | 22:57 |
| nathany | heh | 22:57 |
| paroneayea | greg-g: Creative Commons may be contacted at | 22:58 |
| paroneayea | you may want to add back the URL there though | 22:58 |
| paroneayea | legalcode-plain strips it out | 22:58 |
| paroneayea | a bug that I've managed to reproduce in the new version perfectly! ;) | 22:58 |
| * paroneayea lifted that code pretty much verbatim | 22:59 | |
| JED3 | nathany, i need to install py 2.6 on a8, is it safe to leave it as the system's default or should i revert the symlink back to 2.5? | 22:59 |
| JED3 | also to do that i think i need to add the sid repo, is that okay as well? | 22:59 |
| greg-g | paroneayea: ahh, thanks | 22:59 |
| nathany | JED3, uh.... | 23:02 |
| nathany | really? | 23:02 |
| nathany | I'd prefer to have you check in with nkinkade about that | 23:02 |
| JED3 | nathany, yeah thanks to that awesomely-scary multiprocessing hack lol | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | JED3: ? | 23:03 |
| nathany | nathany, ah | 23:04 |
| nathany | er | 23:04 |
| nathany | JED3, ah | 23:04 |
| nathany | sigh | 23:04 |
| nathany | JED3, why don't you check in with nkinkade about that when he arrives | 23:04 |
| nathany | since he's doing most of the pkg mgmt on those | 23:04 |
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| JED3 | haha okay | 23:04 |
| akozak | varnish is driving me crazy | 23:10 |
| paroneayea | akozak: well nkinkade has arrived | 23:10 |
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| nkinkade | akozak: Am I safe to just blast 100% everything at /sjwiki? | 23:57 |
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