| JED3 | paroneayea, damn just realized that SF python meetup scheduled for next week conflicts with a CC dinner | 00:20 |
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| paroneayea | JED3: sucks; ah well | 00:21 |
| JED3 | yeah oh well | 00:22 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, <span rel="dct:publisher" resource="[_:publisher]">the person who associated CC0</span> | 00:25 |
| JED3 | ahh nm, thats valid sorry ;) | 00:26 |
| paroneayea | :) | 00:31 |
| paroneayea | there are broken things with that though, related to the translations not actually existing yet | 00:31 |
| paroneayea | well | 00:31 |
| paroneayea | "it's complicated" :) | 00:31 |
| paroneayea | getting ready for my chipy talk now, lata | 00:31 |
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| nathany | paroneayea, it appears that the chooser on staging has died; are you working on that? | 16:52 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: heh, when I set it up I was testing it yesterday and was just running it in an ssh session, which died :X | 16:58 |
| nathany | :) | 16:58 |
| paroneayea | I'll daemonize it | 16:58 |
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| paroneayea | or at least put it in screen ;) | 16:58 |
| nathany | paroneayea, great; you and nkinkade may want to coordinate on what sort of restart/startup script is needed | 16:59 |
| paroneayea | okay | 16:59 |
| paroneayea | should be up again | 16:59 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: ah yeah, I see what damage my disconnected irc session did | 19:21 |
| paroneayea | 1 billion nagios alerts | 19:21 |
| paroneayea | er, disconnected ssh session | 19:22 |
| paroneayea | sorry guys :) | 19:22 |
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| gnufs | hello all | 21:04 |
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| paroneayea | hello gnufs | 21:04 |
| gnufs | i'm about to release a video under cc-by-sa | 21:04 |
| gnufs | are there cool clips t put at the end of the video for license statement? | 21:04 |
| iaefai | Generally speaking, if somebody uses CC non-commerical work as part of a software product, such as an icon, and the software product is given away, would the non-commercial tag on the icon preclude the use of a donation button on the software's website? | 21:08 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: http://identi.ca/notice/21809109 | 21:49 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea, ping | 21:57 |
| paroneayea | JED3: pong | 21:57 |
| paroneayea | poing | 21:57 |
| paroneayea | sup | 21:57 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Hmm. The only way to resolve that would be to get another IP address for a8 and buy another certificate. | 21:57 |
| nkinkade | nathany: What do you think re: Evan's message above? | 21:57 |
| nathany | nkinkade, IPs are, what, $1/month? | 21:59 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, i see that you are using a relaxng to validate the html+rdfa in cc.license | 21:59 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah, very cheap. | 21:59 |
| paroneayea | JED3: *I* am not using relaxng :) | 21:59 |
| nkinkade | Seems we should just go ahead with that. | 21:59 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, ahh okay | 21:59 |
| nkinkade | I can see Evan's point. | 21:59 |
| JED3 | there is an html_rdfa.relax.xml sitting in cc.license's tree, is it not being used? | 22:00 |
| nathany | nkinkade, yeah, do it | 22:00 |
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| paroneayea | that's frank tobia's code is what I mean | 22:00 |
| JED3 | ahh okay | 22:00 |
| paroneayea | the tests I wrote for CC0 actually just test the output verbatim | 22:00 |
| JED3 | blast | 22:00 |
| nathany | why blast? | 22:00 |
| paroneayea | blasters! | 22:00 |
| paroneayea | Q_____________,, _ _ _ _ | 22:01 |
| paroneayea | / / , ,/oooo// /_\_/_\_/\ /_\_/_\_/\ | 22:01 |
| paroneayea | \ \__\_\\----\\ ' \_/ \_/' ' \_/ \_/' | 22:01 |
| paroneayea | / ,/ | 22:01 |
| paroneayea | |__\ PEW! PEW! | 22:01 |
| JED3 | nathany, hoping there was a relax schema out there to test the CC0 output of the rest api (waiting for chris to finish asciiart ;) | 22:01 |
| nathany | ah | 22:01 |
| JED3 | i've almost finished modifying it for CC0, but want to cross check my work with another version if it existed, which it appears does not | 22:02 |
| nathany | no, i don't think it does... | 22:02 |
| JED3 | okay | 22:02 |
| paroneayea | the reason I didn't use relaxng for the cc0 formatter stuff was: | 22:03 |
| paroneayea | - I don't know how it works and I didn't want to spend much more time than I was taking | 22:03 |
| paroneayea | - I wanted to make sure I was matching exactly what I would get when using the cc0 chooser on the current site | 22:03 |
| paroneayea | maybe I should add relaxng now that I am done with it or something, I haven't looked into how it works yet.. | 22:04 |
| paroneayea | lazy TDD for something that already has a working implementation: just copy and paste the old output for all known scenarios... ;p | 22:04 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, its very straightforward i doubt it would require much time for learning. i literally just dove into it about an hour ago | 22:05 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: nathany https://identi.ca/notice/21809109 | 22:06 |
| paroneayea | greg-g: I already posted that here :) | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: Scroll back about 20 lines. | 22:06 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade is working on it, I will reply as such | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: I should be able to have an https version of i.creativecommons.org on Monday sometime. | 22:07 |
| greg-g | bah, read? | 22:07 |
| nkinkade | But I appreciate you guys being my micro-blogging proxies. ;-) | 22:07 |
| greg-g | of course :) | 22:07 |
| greg-g | nathany: nevermind | 22:07 |
| nathany | :) | 22:07 |
| greg-g | :) | 22:07 |
| JED3 | this isn't the first request for i.cc.org:443 is it? | 22:08 |
| nathany | not sure, but let's just do it | 22:08 |
| nathany | it's causing issues for cc.net as well | 22:08 |
| paroneayea | JED3: good to know it isn't hard to learn :) | 22:09 |
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| paroneayea | oops | 22:09 |
| paroneayea | :X | 22:10 |
| paroneayea | shoulda just let nathany reply. | 22:10 |
| nathany | lol... sorry :) | 22:10 |
| paroneayea | nathany: is this acceptable http://dpaste.com/158089/ | 22:14 |
| nathany | paroneayea, just doing English fallback, right? | 22:14 |
| paroneayea | yep | 22:14 |
| nathany | is this for the alt text? | 22:15 |
| nathany | nevermind; it's fine :) | 22:15 |
| paroneayea | okay :) | 22:15 |
| nathany | ideally we'd do parent language fallback -- ie, es_ES -> es -> en | 22:15 |
| paroneayea | I'll set up both fallbacks | 22:15 |
| nathany | awesome :) | 22:15 |
| paroneayea | nathany: so I've been curious for a long time.. | 22:33 |
| paroneayea | why are all of our .po files like 'en_US' and all of our rdf files like 'en-us'? | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | well, I have my suspicion, that this is the official way to do it in both circumstances | 22:35 |
| paroneayea | but I'd like to just have that confirmed :) | 22:35 |
| nathany | paroneayea, IIRC it's customary to capitalize the country when specifying the locale | 22:35 |
| nathany | "-" and "_" get used interchangeably as separators | 22:35 |
| paroneayea | ah | 22:35 |
| paroneayea | hm, well the country isn't capitalized in our rdf files | 22:35 |
| nathany | we wind up with the all lowercase, dashed version because we just need *something* canonical, and that's as good as anything | 22:36 |
| paroneayea | ah | 22:36 |
| paroneayea | okay :) | 22:36 |
| nathany | paroneayea, right; the zope.i18n normalization code lowercases | 22:36 |
| nathany | hence we lowercased | 22:36 |
| paroneayea | gotcha. | 22:36 |
| paroneayea | okay, thanks :) | 22:36 |
| nathany | (the other half of this problem is that it's not all in our control -- we wind up matching our PO file languages against user-agent supplied "accept" languages, so normalization is necessary) | 22:37 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, I have an account on nagios correct? | 23:33 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Maybe ... let me double check. | 23:34 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, i recall you informing me that you had added me a couple months ago, but my cannot find anything in my inbox affirming it | 23:35 |
| nkinkade | JED3: You're thinking of the backup machine. | 23:35 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, ahh thats right | 23:35 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, i dont necessarily need an account, I just needed to remove my number from the SMS alerts and didn't feel like bothering you to do it | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I just gave you an account on nagios. | 23:36 |
| JED3 | awesome, thx | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | You *needed* to or wanted to? ;-) | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | JED3: I'll remove you, though, unless you know just where to edit. | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Actually, you don't remove yourself via nagios. | 23:37 |
| nkinkade | It's all handled at Google Apps, via a group. | 23:37 |
| JED3 | ohh okay | 23:37 |
| nkinkade | I'll remove you. | 23:37 |
| JED3 | yes, will you please remove me, I no longer have that number and am in btwn phones | 23:38 |
| nkinkade | JED3: 919 area code? | 23:38 |
| JED3 | nkinkade, yes | 23:43 |
| nkinkade | Already gone. Looked at the wiki page for 919 and saw NC, so figured it must be you. | 23:44 |
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