| nkinkade | JED3: Are there any restrictions on characters in the login for CC.net? | 00:05 |
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| JED3 | nkinkade: for the username? | 00:05 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Yeah. | 00:06 |
| JED3 | yeah, pretty sures its alphanumerics only | 00:06 |
| nkinkade | Some is saying that name like my.user.name isn't working. | 00:06 |
| JED3 | let me double check to see if any punctuation is allowddx | 00:06 |
| nkinkade | So no dots? | 00:06 |
| JED3 | no dots | 00:07 |
| JED3 | only alphanumerics and underscroes | 00:07 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Thanks. | 00:13 |
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| RobOakes | Hi, I have a quick question about Creative Commons material that is licensed with the "Share-alike" attribute. | 00:17 |
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| RobOakes | If I were to include one of these images in a book, would that mean that the entire book would also need to be licensed under a "Share-alike" license, even though the image would not be modified? | 00:18 |
| nkinkade | RobOakes: Probably not. | 00:21 |
| nkinkade | See section 1(a) and 1(b) of this license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode | 00:21 |
| nkinkade | (for example) | 00:21 |
| nkinkade | If your make a derivative, you must license the derivative under the same BY-SA license. If your use the work in a "Collection" you just have to give attribution. | 00:22 |
| nkinkade | My feeling is that including an unmodified image in a book would be categorized and a use in a collection. | 00:22 |
| nkinkade | If you're in doubt you should ask the copyright holder. | 00:22 |
| nkinkade | (none of what I've said is legal advice :-) | 00:23 |
| nkinkade | (sorry about so many spelling and grammar errrors) | 00:23 |
| RobOakes | Okay. That makes sense. I'll try and get ahold of them. I would love to use an image from Wikimedia commons, but my publisher would have a fit if that were to somehow violate their copyright protection on the text. | 00:24 |
| RobOakes | Thanks for the link. | 00:25 |
| luisv | (that is *such* a faq) | 00:26 |
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| luisv | (actually, it is just what timbl was asking about, basically) | 00:30 |
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| nkinkade | Gandi.net's new trademarked logo: https://www.gandi.net/static/imagesv3/no_bullshit.png | 16:33 |
| nkinkade | That's great. | 16:33 |
| nkinkade | As seen in the header here: http://www.gandi.net/ | 16:34 |
| nkinkade | You have to love a company that isn't afraid to put "No Bullshit!" on the front on their site, and then trademark it. | 16:35 |
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| nkinkade | Oh, man, it just get's better and better: "'No Bullshit'? Have we gone mad? No! We just got fed up of pussyfooting around trying to find a nice, friendly strap line which brought to life the values of our business when really all we wanted say is we're a 'No Bullshit' company." | 16:37 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: wow, are you serious? | 16:46 |
| nathany | nkinkade, i like it :) | 16:46 |
| nkinkade | You just have to follow the links. | 16:47 |
| paroneayea | this isn't like, a huge joke | 16:47 |
| nkinkade | They even have an a whole page about it. | 16:47 |
| nathany | paroneayea, no, this is the corporate company we keep :) | 16:47 |
| nkinkade | http://www.gandi.net/no-bullshit | 16:47 |
| paroneayea | sigh | 16:47 |
| nkinkade | sigh? | 16:47 |
| paroneayea | I guess it isn't so bad | 16:47 |
| nathany | this makes me so much happier than pictures of busty indy car drivers | 16:47 |
| nkinkade | It's the best thing I've seen in quite a long time. | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | yeah it's true | 16:48 |
| nathany | and annoying "ask bob" crap | 16:48 |
| nkinkade | haha | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | at least they don't have completely sexist marketing | 16:48 |
| nkinkade | Dotster and GoDaddy are bullshit, so it's nice to see a company differentiate themselves explicity. | 16:48 |
| nathany | sexist and heterocentric :) | 16:48 |
| paroneayea | maybe it is my fears of them adopting shitty godaddy like marketing, I just finally escaped from that place completely | 16:48 |
| nkinkade | They also revamped the website, which looks better now. | 16:49 |
| nathany | fair enough; yeah, hopefully it just remain a URL and not a whole ad campaign :) | 16:49 |
| nathany | yeah, it does | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | nathany: and their ceo is pro-torture: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/20/73018/8947 | 16:49 |
| nathany | godaddy's? | 16:49 |
| nathany | wow | 16:49 |
| paroneayea | yeah, he has a super right-wing talk show like personality blog | 16:50 |
| paroneayea | and he made a couple of links to it on godaddy's homepage | 16:50 |
| paroneayea | that was like, "Close gitmo??? No way!" | 16:50 |
| nkinkade | I like a registrar who neither bullshits nor pussyfoots. It's great. | 16:50 |
| paroneayea | haha | 16:51 |
| nkinkade | They said it, not me, but I like it all the same. | 16:51 |
| paroneayea | okay, I am warming up to no-bullshit. I had a knee-jerk reaction like | 16:51 |
| paroneayea | "oh no, I just escaped as a refugee from a registrar with assy marketing!" | 16:52 |
| nathany | QOTD: "I read some Shakespeare every year, Lear always. Cheers you up if you read that." -Ernest Hemingway | 16:52 |
| paroneayea | haha | 16:53 |
| * paulproteus waves. | 16:53 | |
| paulproteus | nearlyfreespeech.net also sells domains. | 16:53 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, GANDI is great. | 16:53 |
| paulproteus | Also as a Debian Developer I get their bulk rate even for non-bulk purchases (just for virtual private servers). | 16:54 |
| paulproteus | Sadly I don't really need virtual servers in France. | 16:54 |
| paroneayea | that's pretty awesome that they're such a nice supporter of debian | 16:54 |
| paulproteus | They also donate money to Debian. | 16:55 |
| paulproteus | They've been sort of obviously awesome since I first ran into them in 2000 or something. | 16:55 |
| paulproteus | "Last century." | 16:55 |
| nkinkade | Do their name servers run on Debian? | 16:55 |
| paroneayea | last MILLENIA | 16:55 |
| paulproteus | um. | 16:56 |
| paulproteus | mille + annus = millennium. | 16:56 |
| paulproteus | mille + anus = millenium. | 16:56 |
| nkinkade | I've sent them a few tech support requests over the past few years and they have always got back to me, which is more than I can say for Dotster. | 16:56 |
| paulproteus | Now I don't spell millennium with too few 'n's. | 16:56 |
| paroneayea | psh, okay | 16:56 |
| paroneayea | speaking of things I need to control my knee-jerk reaction to | 16:58 |
| paroneayea | despite this having the word "cloud" in it, this looks very interesting: http://bitbucket.org/ianb/toppcloud/ | 16:59 |
| paroneayea | esp because I am interested in seeing how to get free software python webapps to be easily deployable | 16:59 |
| * paulproteus nods. | 16:59 | |
| paroneayea | ian says the code is pretty early still, but I am going to give it a shot this weekend hopefully | 17:00 |
| nathany | paroneayea, paulproteus, have you seen http://heroku.com/? | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 17:00 |
| nathany | the idea of doing something like that with wsgi is... intriguing to me :) | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | I think that is kind of the thing that toppcloud is trying to do | 17:01 |
| nathany | interesting | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | it's like app engine style deployment but using free software | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | for wsgi apps | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | (well, that follows "app engine style" I guess) | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | so apparently it uses: | 17:02 |
| nathany | i think the one thing that appeals to me about heroku is the DVCS integration | 17:02 |
| paroneayea | http://incubator.apache.org/libcloud/ | 17:02 |
| paulproteus | I guess I should make a "git push to free app engine" service that costs money for no particular reason. | 17:03 |
| paroneayea | then you could tie it into openhatch | 17:08 |
| paroneayea | and also have premium openhatch gold accounts | 17:08 |
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| nathany | paroneayea, did JED talk to you about a lang attribution on the deeds yesterday? | 17:18 |
| paroneayea | yes | 17:19 |
| paroneayea | I added it | 17:19 |
| nathany | paroneayea, awesome | 17:19 |
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| mralex | JED3: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112864/trivia#tr0773813 | 18:32 |
| JED3 | ah ha! | 18:33 |
| JED3 | mralex: I ended up going with the gopro btw, many others seem to have shared your advice | 18:38 |
| mralex | cool | 18:38 |
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| nathany | nkinkade, JED3, paroneayea: reminder, we have a sync call today; 1330 PST | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | Yup. | 20:31 |
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| JED3 | aye | 20:33 |
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| nathany | nkinkade, JED3, paroneayea -- we'll use conf room #9 in a few minutes | 21:28 |
| nkinkade | Sounds good. | 21:29 |
| paroneayea | cool | 21:30 |
| paroneayea | http://dustycloud.org/gfx/goodies/linuxaudiocomic.png | 21:35 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: ^ | 21:36 |
| paroneayea | Me being dramatic | 21:36 |
| paroneayea | I should delete that comic. | 21:36 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: tell emacs autosaves the scratch buffer | 21:38 |
| JED3 | tell me* | 21:38 |
| paroneayea | JED3: no... | 21:42 |
| paroneayea | :< | 21:42 |
| paroneayea | did you lose something important? | 21:42 |
| JED3 | ughh yes | 21:42 |
| JED3 | well not too important since it didnt work yet haha | 21:43 |
| akozak | haha paroneayea | 21:47 |
| akozak | i love the sound server party | 21:48 |
| akozak | never thought I'd see oss breakdance | 21:49 |
| paroneayea | akozak: :) | 21:49 |
| paroneayea | I am not sure how I feel about that comic. It expresses my feelings and experience but I almost feel like a traitor for having it up | 21:49 |
| akozak | haha | 21:50 |
| akozak | that's absurd | 21:51 |
| akozak | it's like you're living in soviet russia or something | 21:51 |
| akozak | criticism of an implementation shouldn't be considered heresy | 21:52 |
| paroneayea | I guess I just feel bad that I know there are people who are actually trying hard to get this stuff to work. I might just over-worry! | 21:55 |
| paroneayea | in actuality though I haven't had problems with my wacom tablet working in a couple of years, but that used to be hell and a half to configure | 21:55 |
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| nathany | nkinkade, what model of thinkpad do you have? | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | nathany: SL400 | 22:07 |
| nkinkade | If you want to see it in person, Ted has the same one. | 22:07 |
| nathany | nkinkade, ok | 22:07 |
| nathany | do you know what graphics chipset it has off the top of your head? | 22:07 |
| nkinkade | Not off the top, but I can tell you in a few seconds ... | 22:07 |
| nathany | no worries, just poking around | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller | 22:08 |
| akozak | heh nathany, aggregate with -force has been running 24+ hours now... | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | That's not a chipset #, but it something. | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | nathany: (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) GM45 | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | ??? | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | http://www.intel.com/products/notebook/chipsets/gm45/gm45-overview.htm | 22:10 |
| paroneayea | yeah | 22:10 |
| paroneayea | that's it | 22:10 |
| paroneayea | intel graphics cards are the only cards with decent free software opengl support | 22:10 |
| paroneayea | they still don't have very good GLSL support on mine though | 22:11 |
| nkinkade | nathany: driver=i915 | 22:15 |
| nkinkade | lshw is a neat tool. | 22:15 |
| paroneayea | oh neat | 22:16 |
| paroneayea | I didn't know about lshw | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | I had to Google for it a minute ago, but I have used it in the past ... specifically to find out how many memory slots a remote machine had. | 22:17 |
| paroneayea | I just knew about lspci | 22:17 |
| nkinkade | lspci was where I got the generic name for the graphics controller. | 22:19 |
| nkinkade | less /var/log/Xorg.0.log was where I got the chipset name. | 22:19 |
| nkinkade | lshw was where I found the driver name. | 22:20 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 22:20 |
| paroneayea | :) | 22:22 |
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| paulproteus | You guys have it easy. | 23:08 |
| paulproteus | Back in my day we'd use dmidecode and page through the results by hand! | 23:08 |
| paulproteus | And we'd like it! | 23:08 |
| JED3 | nathany: was that the "Google Mail Checker" extension? | 23:11 |
| nathany | JED3, "Google Mail Checker Plus" | 23:12 |
| JED3 | ahh thanks | 23:12 |
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