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| * paroneayea silently drops ascii art in the middle of the night | 05:17 | |
| paroneayea | .---. | 05:17 |
|---|---|---|
| paroneayea | _|o__ |_ | 05:17 |
| paroneayea | ' | ' | 05:17 |
| paroneayea | ( .----' ) | 05:17 |
| paroneayea | '_| ____' | 05:17 |
| paroneayea | | o | | 05:17 |
| paroneayea | '---' | 05:17 |
| paroneayea | oh hey more robots: | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | _ _ | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | |o||o| | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | o---/ ____ \---o | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | / / [/\/\] \ \ | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | / ( ---- ) \ | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | /[|]\ \________/ /[|]\ | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | \ | / | | | | \ | / | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | /__| |__\ | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | % | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | o o | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | ___ | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | ___H___ | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | / \ / \ | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | _|_ |O| _|_ | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | ttt ||| ttt | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | lord do I ever love me sum robotz | 05:18 |
| greg-g | yay robots! | 05:18 |
| JED3 | yayyyy | 05:18 |
| paroneayea | *gasp* | 05:19 |
| paroneayea | exposed! | 05:19 |
| JED3 | this is why i have growl enabled for IRC | 05:19 |
| paroneayea | :) | 05:19 |
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| JED3 | ...falls on the deaf ears of all of the gnurds in here :) | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | __ __ | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | | \_ _/ | | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | \ \.-----./ / | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | / ____ __ \ | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | | __ \_|_/_ .' | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | / L_\ /_l \ | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | | , , | *growls* | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | ./ vvvv---vvvv |' | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | / _ ./' | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | | \_ ./ | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | / \. ./ | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | | \ | | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | | \. | \ | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | .' \ | | | 05:20 |
| paroneayea | | \ | | | 05:20 |
| greg-g | growl? | 05:21 |
| greg-g | JED3: ^ | 05:21 |
| paroneayea | JED3: haha, gnurds | 05:22 |
| paroneayea | I like the term "gnudists" | 05:22 |
| JED3 | greg-g: growl = mumbles | 05:22 |
| paroneayea | libnotify! | 05:22 |
| JED3 | functionally eq. | 05:23 |
| paroneayea | I've considered hooking up erc to libnotify via dbus or something | 05:23 |
| paroneayea | I should be hooking up more emacs functions to libnotify in general probably | 05:23 |
| greg-g | well, I've considered sleeping now, so yeah, i'm gonna | 05:23 |
| JED3 | its worthwhile in my case for detecting robot invasions | 05:23 |
| greg-g | g'night | 05:23 |
| paroneayea | greg-g: gnight | 05:23 |
| JED3 | night | 05:23 |
| paroneayea | .-. | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | ~/o-o\~ How are the experiments running | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | _( - )_ in the lab today, boys? | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | / |\o/| \ Good, good. Keep | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | | | '/|\' | | up the good work. | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | \/| | |\/ Remember! We need this | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | '-| ./_\. |-' product delivered by | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | |/' '\| Tuesday at the latest! | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | { | } | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | _|__|__|_ | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | (____|____) | 05:24 |
| paroneayea | % | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | .-''-. | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | < o o > | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | /oO-Ooo'\ | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | ///\/ -____- \ | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | -->\. ///\.\ | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | \__/\ -\_/ / | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | ) \_/ | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | / \__/ ' | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | / / | | | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | % | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | .-. | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | c/o_o\c I hear u need some | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | \_o_/\. _ hard drives | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | //DC \ / \ swappin | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | //\__ /\/ | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | '- __/ | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | % | 05:25 |
| paroneayea | .-. | 05:26 |
| paroneayea | c/=_=\c i hear u need some | 05:26 |
| paroneayea | \_^_/\. _ bash scriptin | 05:26 |
| paroneayea | //SA \ / \ | 05:26 |
| paroneayea | //\__ /\/ | 05:26 |
| paroneayea | '- __/ | 05:26 |
| paroneayea | ok, I'll stop at the datacenter and sysadmin monkeys | 05:26 |
| JED3 | haha whats generating these? | 05:26 |
| paroneayea | generating them? | 05:28 |
| paroneayea | I make them | 05:28 |
| paroneayea | me and emacs | 05:28 |
| paroneayea | I have a file full of all my ascii art | 05:28 |
| JED3 | haha so good | 05:28 |
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| paroneayea | here, in case you ever needed to bloat your signature with CC pride: | 05:36 |
| paroneayea | .-------. | 05:36 |
| paroneayea | .'_.-----._'. | 05:36 |
| paroneayea | / / __ __ \ \ | 05:36 |
| paroneayea | . . /.-\ /.-\ . . | 05:36 |
| paroneayea | | | || || | | | 05:36 |
| paroneayea | ' ' \'-/ \'-/ ' ' | 05:36 |
| paroneayea | \ \_`' `'_/ / | 05:36 |
| paroneayea | '._'-----'_.' | 05:36 |
| paroneayea | '-----' | 05:36 |
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| paroneayea | alrighty, bedtimez... lates | 05:48 |
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| greg-g | paroneayea: nice CC logo. Wish it was a little cleaner, but it is ASCII after all :) | 14:25 |
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| tvol | good morning east coast! | 15:00 |
| tvol | err, easter time zone at least | 15:01 |
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| paroneayea | morning | 15:22 |
| paroneayea | greg-g: yeah, only so much you can do in ascii-compressed imagery ;) | 15:23 |
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| greg-g | tvol: it's Easter time zone now? ugh, this daylight savings thing is getting out of hand | 16:09 |
| greg-g | ;) | 16:09 |
| tvol | greg-g: EASTER TIME FOREVER! | 16:10 |
| greg-g | I love me some cadberry eggs | 16:10 |
| mecredis | my cat is named catberry | 16:12 |
| mecredis | and everyone thinks we named him cadberry | 16:13 |
| mecredis | to which I respond http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzFRV1LwIo | 16:13 |
| greg-g | hmm, uh, that makes, .... sense? | 16:31 |
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| akozak | mralex, when can you meet this morning? | 18:00 |
| mralex | akozak: 11? | 18:01 |
| akozak | mralex, ok sounds good | 18:01 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: As I was going over the Lithuanian thing for CC Search, I noticed a number of other languages for which the ccsearch project is 100% complete. Should I go ahead and launch those on CC Search as well? | 18:31 |
| nathany | nkinkade, sure | 18:34 |
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| akozak | http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os | 19:35 |
| paroneayea | "chromium os: now you can boot directly into the browser" | 19:46 |
| paroneayea | the video they provide is pretty irritatingly hipsteresque, even worse than their google wave video was | 19:49 |
| paroneayea | hey nathany | 19:49 |
| paroneayea | I'm trying to figure out how to provide selected_jurisdiction | 19:50 |
| paroneayea | there are two implementations of IDefaultJurisdiction: PreferredJurisdictionByHostIp and PreferredJurisdictionByLocale | 19:50 |
| paroneayea | should I be implementing one, or both of those maybe? | 19:50 |
| akozak | heh, hipsteresque | 19:52 |
| mralex | oh god, it's so hipster. the voice over sounds quite douchey. | 19:53 |
| mralex | i do like their "web browser" icon is a combination of Netscape and IE | 19:53 |
| akozak | I prefer a hipsteresque product introduction than the old steve jobs approach | 19:54 |
| akozak | prefer it to* | 19:54 |
| paroneayea | same audience though | 19:55 |
| paroneayea | "Chromium OS: Now your whole computer is about as useless and dumbed down as your phone" | 19:57 |
| mralex | seriously | 19:57 |
| nathany | paroneayea, ByLocale is in use now | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | nathany: cool, thx | 19:58 |
| nathany | ByHostIp was never really fleshed out | 19:58 |
| nathany | (although we thought about doing so and using it when no lang was avail) | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | ah okay, that makes sense | 20:00 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: The localization stuff for CC Search is a total mess. | 21:48 |
| nkinkade | Pootle shows multiple languages as 100% complete, but apparently their PO files in Pootle are old, missing all the new strings. | 21:48 |
| nkinkade | The whole Makefile thing doesn't work as expected in conjunction with subversion. | 21:49 |
| nkinkade | It really would be nice to trash the whole exiting thing and redo it with some purpose in mind. | 21:50 |
| nathany | nkinkade, noted; when you say the Makefile thing doesn't work in conjunction with subversion, can you be more specific? | 21:59 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I had pushed some changes trunk -> production -> svn up on the live site, then I tried the make clean; make all you suggested and it overwrote the PO file I had just pulled in. | 22:00 |
| nkinkade | Maybe it was me doing it the wrong way. | 22:00 |
| nathany | nkinkade, ah, ok | 22:00 |
| nathany | yeah, i agree that it almost certainly could be done in a clearer manner | 22:01 |
| nkinkade | It backed up the PO file and then replaced it with something based off the POT file, I think. | 22:01 |
| nathany | ah, right | 22:01 |
| nkinkade | So that means that running make all will not preserve changes to the PO files. | 22:01 |
| nkinkade | Then I noticed that virtually none of the PO files in Pootle for ccsearch are even remotely up to date with the current strings. | 22:02 |
| nkinkade | I don't know if we have any process for updating those. | 22:02 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'm also planning to remove every single language from that dropdown except English (US) and Lithuanian, as all the others are a joke ... with maybe 2 or 3 strings translated. | 22:03 |
| nkinkade | < 5% of the text on the site or something like that. | 22:03 |
| nathany | nkinkade, that's probably a result of the summer work | 22:03 |
| nathany | we should update the files in Pootle and ask people on CCi to update translations | 22:03 |
| nkinkade | If they are so horridly out of sync with the reality of the site, then it's better to remove them rather than have what appear to be broken language options. | 22:04 |
| nathany | are the files in pootle a checkout? | 22:04 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Which checkout? | 22:04 |
| nkinkade | ccsearch? | 22:04 |
| nathany | yes; are the ccsearch PO files in Pootle a ccsearch svn checkout | 22:04 |
| nkinkade | The PO files in both ccsearch and Pootle are virtually all totally out of date. | 22:05 |
| nathany | wait, the ones in ccsearch should be updated from the template, which is updated when you run make, right? | 22:05 |
| nkinkade | English is up to date, of course, and the only other one is Lithuanian and that's because the guy uploaded the PO file to Pootle. | 22:05 |
| nathany | i know parker was committing changes this summer | 22:05 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I can't see that that was happening. | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | I tried making an edit to the POT file then make all, but the change didn't propagate. | 22:06 |
| nathany | huh | 22:06 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I was doing something wrong. I'm not sure. | 22:07 |
| nathany | ok, well i need to work on some writing for a bit | 22:07 |
| nathany | i guess i can try and look @ the Makefile, etc after vacation | 22:08 |
| nkinkade | I can see why. The all target doesn't include update-po-files target, which apparently is the one that handles that, but when I run it manually it fails. | 22:11 |
| nkinkade | I mean, I can probably try to track it all down. But there is a side of me that thinks we should just ditch that whole convoluted makefile shit and replace it with a more simple script. | 22:11 |
| nkinkade | Wait, actually this worked: | 22:12 |
| nkinkade | $ make -f Makefile.language update-po-files | 22:12 |
| nkinkade | It's just running ./bin/update_po_files.sh that fails. | 22:13 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: so in svn cc.license, there's cc.license.suport:lang_to_jurisdiction(), but that also calls cc.license.license_xsl.lang_to_jurisdiction() | 22:15 |
| paroneayea | oh | 22:15 |
| paroneayea | I think I see | 22:15 |
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| paroneayea | this is a little bit confusing, but that's probably because I don't know much about the whole license_xsl toolchain | 22:18 |
| nathany | paroneayea, i think you're seeing a poor attempt at abstraction | 22:21 |
| paroneayea | ok, I see, so the equivalent data for this is in jurisdictions.rdf? | 22:25 |
| paroneayea | so, clearly it's taking the language, and trying to find a jurisdiction that matches it | 22:25 |
| paroneayea | does it just look for the first jurisdiction that has a matching language | 22:26 |
| paroneayea | ? | 22:26 |
| nathany | paroneayea, yes, it's in jurisdicitons.rdf now | 22:26 |
| nathany | yes | 22:26 |
| paroneayea | okay | 22:26 |
| paroneayea | so what about the issue that querying an rdf doesn't preserve ordering? | 22:26 |
| paroneayea | might people get different jurisdictions every time they gvisit? | 22:26 |
| nathany | i don't think there are any jursidictions with the same language; we've made zero attempt to "order" things in the XML | 22:27 |
| nathany | we usually qualify the language when they overlap (ie, en_US v. en_CA) | 22:27 |
| paroneayea | aha | 22:29 |
| paroneayea | okay, awesome, and good to know :) | 22:29 |
| paroneayea | I think I know how to handle this now | 22:29 |
| nathany | great :) | 22:30 |
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| akozak | paulproteus, I don't suppose you remember how the front page navigation and sidebox navigation titles get set on http://opened.creativecommons.org do you? | 23:02 |
| paulproteus | akozak, Yo | 23:02 |
| paulproteus | Er... | 23:02 |
| paulproteus | Not off the top of my head. | 23:02 |
| akozak | ah ok, don't worry about it | 23:02 |
| akozak | I'll dig in | 23:02 |
| paulproteus | Should be easy to figure out.... | 23:02 |
| akozak | you'd think | 23:02 |
| paulproteus | A template. | 23:02 |
| paulproteus | Look at a working example. | 23:02 |
| paulproteus | I think it's a MW template and there's some Python code that runs in a cron job that dumps things to an HTML file that gets read by the PHP theme... | 23:03 |
| akozak | Oh ok, I'll look for that | 23:03 |
| paroneayea | nathany: en-gb appears to be a language for both http://creativecommons.org/international/scotland/ and http://creativecommons.org/international/uk/ | 23:11 |
| paroneayea | in jurisdictions.rdf | 23:12 |
| paroneayea | re: <nathany> i don't think there are any jursidictions with the same language | 23:12 |
| nathany | oh | 23:13 |
| nathany | well, tough shit | 23:13 |
| nathany | :) | 23:13 |
| paroneayea | :) | 23:13 |
| nathany | maybe just make yourself a note to revisit this at some point? | 23:13 |
| nathany | and for now, take the first one | 23:13 |
| paroneayea | okay, will do | 23:14 |
| nathany | thanks | 23:14 |
| paroneayea | nothing else has duplicates | 23:14 |
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