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| nathany | nkinkade, remind me, is it the owner or recipient that initiates a transfer? | 17:01 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Per the thread, they have to initiate the transfer. | 17:01 |
| nathany | nkinkade, that doesn't help me, since there are two transfers mentioned in that thread | 17:02 |
| nathany | owner or recipient? | 17:02 |
| nkinkade | So it's the recipient who initiates the transfer. | 17:02 |
| nathany | got it | 17:02 |
| nathany | thanks | 17:02 |
| nkinkade | np :-) | 17:02 |
| mralex | nathany: http://store.muledesign.com/featured/el-vetica.php | 17:02 |
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| mralex | nathany: internet slow, or just me? | 17:27 |
| nathany | mralex, it's slow | 17:28 |
| nkinkade | mralex: nathany: Last nights backups are still running, which might be contributing to the slowness. | 17:32 |
| nkinkade | They will probably be running all day. | 17:33 |
| nathany | nkinkade, why the backlog? | 17:33 |
| nkinkade | (another reason that having the backup machine in the office is not ideal) | 17:33 |
| nkinkade | nathany: From some things I moved around on a6 yesterday ... then there is a boatload of new stuff for neurocommons. | 17:33 |
| nathany | ah | 17:34 |
| nathany | if i interrupt the connection to switch back to wep is that going to fuck that up? | 17:34 |
| nkinkade | Put it this way, it's still chipping at away at a6 and it still has a7, a8, a9, and neurocommons to do. | 17:34 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It might stop the backup, but I suspect the reboot time may be less than the TCP timeout. | 17:35 |
| nathany | reboot? | 17:35 |
| nathany | oh, time to restart the backup? | 17:35 |
| nkinkade | No, the time to restart the router, though I suppose restarting networking could be enough. | 17:36 |
| nathany | oh, got it | 17:37 |
| nkinkade | I hadn't thought about that ... restarting networking might very well be enough ... probably would be. | 17:37 |
| nathany | nkinkade, that auth code is for ccmixter.org, right? | 18:05 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah. | 18:05 |
| nathany | thanks | 18:05 |
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| Matt_ | Good afternoon everyone, i am trying to help a friend out, he is a writer and wants to post his stories on a blog, i recommended he get a CC license but im not sure which one he should get.. and what really this will protect him against | 18:10 |
| greg-g | Matt_: so, that raises the question: why did you initially feel the need to recommend he use a CC license? | 18:16 |
| * greg-g likes to answer questions with other questions | 18:17 | |
| greg-g | mostly because I like to know a little more about the other party's assumptions because I make my recommendation. | 18:17 |
| greg-g | (switch that last because with before) | 18:18 |
| Matt_ | Well, I have seen them around and i have a general understanding of the license from reading about them on the CreativeCommon.org and the wikipedia entry about it, but i guess i just am not sure of ALL the legalities and am having a hard time explaining certain things to him | 18:18 |
| greg-g | Matt_: so, don't worry too much about all the legalities, that is what CC licenses try to minimize/make easier | 18:19 |
| greg-g | and, if you start worrying about all of the legalities, you'll be like me and devote both your work life and personal life to learning about copyright | 18:20 |
| Matt_ | lol | 18:20 |
| Matt_ | ok well i guess can i just ask a few things and then you can just address his concerns? | 18:20 |
| greg-g | to help you with this issue though, I would look at the licenses and see which one makes the most sense/agrees with you most | 18:20 |
| greg-g | and by look at the licenses, I mean reading the human-readable deed, ie: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ | 18:21 |
| greg-g | sure, ask away. | 18:21 |
| Matt_ | i think he is leaning towards the "Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivative" from what i understand... anyone can replicate his work as long as they include his name and do no charge for it | 18:22 |
| greg-g | and do not make any derivatives/remixes/mashups/whatever word you want to use | 18:22 |
| Matt_ | gotchya | 18:22 |
| Matt_ | now should he decide later to have those short stories published.... he can sell them even if they are already CC licensed right? | 18:23 |
| greg-g | that is the most restrictive of the licenses (just saying, not trying to pursuade) | 18:23 |
| greg-g | Matt_: yes, the copyright holder can do whatever they want with their work | 18:23 |
| greg-g | and since it is the most restrictive CC license, he has a better chance getting a more traditional publishing deal from publishers who are not accustomed to using CC licenses | 18:24 |
| Matt_ | ok awesome.... and he doesnt need to register or anything from the sight, just each work gets its own CC license am i correct? | 18:24 |
| greg-g | yes, just put the license information next to the work/on the title page of the work | 18:25 |
| greg-g | (and correct, he does not need to register anything) | 18:25 |
| Matt_ | awesome, i think that about covers it | 18:25 |
| greg-g | cool | 18:25 |
| Matt_ | thanks for all your help | 18:25 |
| greg-g | btw, just has to be said, I'm not a lawyer :) | 18:25 |
| greg-g | no worries, you're welcome | 18:25 |
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| greg-g | he was a nice fellow | 18:26 |
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| paroneayea | http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/27/statusnet-of-identi-ca-fame-raises-875000-to-become-the-wordpress-of-microblogging/ | 18:49 |
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| nathany | nkinkade, ping | 19:29 |
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| nkinkade | nathany_: Hi. | 19:37 |
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| nkinkade | nathany__: Do the router thing? | 19:38 |
| nkinkade | *Doing | 19:38 |
| nathany__ | nkinkade, trying | 19:38 |
| nathany__ | can not get it to accept the wep key and connect | 19:38 |
| nathany__ | linux or ma | 19:38 |
| nathany__ | mac | 19:38 |
| nkinkade | Pretty soon you're going to be nathany____________________________ | 19:39 |
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| nathany | nkinkade, fyi I bailed out and went back to wpa | 19:45 |
| nathany | going to get lunch now | 19:45 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Did you fix Ted's problems with dropping connections or just the basic problem or re-associating with the network after the changes? | 23:00 |
| nathany | just the basic problem | 23:00 |
| nathany | waiting to hear if his other problem magically goes away | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | (sent that to you about 30 minutes ago .... in #civicrm) | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 23:01 |
| nathany | i couldn't get the router to work with WEP | 23:01 |
| nathany | oh, right, just noticed that | 23:01 |
| nathany | :) | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'm wondering if there might be a driver update for his laptop. | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | I think he has the same one as me. | 23:01 |
| nathany | maybe | 23:01 |
| nathany | he says he did an update, but i'm guessing it was a windows update | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-73592 | 23:05 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ^^ | 23:05 |
| nkinkade | (Fix) Fixed an issue where connection randomly dropped. | 23:06 |
| nkinkade | I can point him there, but I suspect he may need some hand-holding. | 23:06 |
| nathany | ah | 23:06 |
| nathany | let me see if he's still here... | 23:06 |
| nkinkade | That was just released a few weeks ago. | 23:07 |
| nkinkade | Sorry to toss that on you. | 23:07 |
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| nkinkade | I sent him a message, but he logged off just after I had sent the message. | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'll send him an email and copy you. | 23:09 |
| nathany | nkinkade, np | 23:09 |
| nathany | i'm going to update his laptop now | 23:09 |
| nkinkade | Oh, okay. | 23:09 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 23:09 |
| nkinkade | But it's somewhat good to know that not everyone is experiencing the drops like a couple years ago. | 23:10 |
| nkinkade | And that we can use something other than WEP. :-) | 23:11 |
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